Tron Legacy 3D Blu-ray (2010) [Region Free]

[infiniteCR]

I still remember hating the look of the 3D on my plasma. After watching it on the 2016 OLED I finally understood the 3D and cinematography. The low end contrast is very important to the look of this one. Even blooming on an LCD would likely obliterate the depth effect.

[the13thman]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

I still remember hating the look of the 3D on my plasma. After watching it on the 2016 OLED I finally understood the 3D and cinematography. The low end contrast is very important to the look of this one. Even blooming on an LCD would likely obliterate the depth effect.

I was far less impressed with this one in the cinema than I was watching it on my plasma but if it's that much better on an OLED I'll have to check it out again. My third 3D TV is an LCD but so far I haven't watched any 3D movies on that, it's mainly for games.

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by the13thman

I was far less impressed with this one in the cinema than I was watching it on my plasma but if it's that much better on an OLED I'll have to check it out again. My third 3D TV is an LCD but so far I haven't watched any 3D movies on that, it's mainly for games.

I didn't mention it but on the panny it was much better than the cinema as well. Youll probably love the razor sharp contrast adding to the 3D illusion (even though the actual 3D is mild).


I felt similarly, although to a lesser degree with the blade runner sequel.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

In the gaming scene, I've seen people try retro dark games on an OLED, figuring that since they were designed for CRT they'd look great on OLED, only to find that they don't look right on OLED as those retro dark games were designed for a display that has perfect blacks but also has low contrast (and natural bloom).

A movie projector is the same way, or at least it was back when Tron Legacy was made. So watching this on an OLED, which is the opposite of how it was made to be seen, is actually the best way to see it? Weird.

E: Movies are just too dang dark, especially nowadays.

[infiniteCR]

The old CRTs for gaming have a look you won't be able to get with a slow input sample and hold display period. But there is a good reminder in your post that you have to set your contrast appropriately l, especially for a dark room when watching these types of movies ( I know some crank it no matter what)

[DigitalDeluge24]

I just rewatched Tron: Legacy in preparation for the sequel and all the Tron-related media that are coming out in the meantime. I hadn't watched it in many years and I must say I was reminded of how much I loved it the first time I saw it and how much fun I used to have with films like this before the cynicism of the internet got to me.

I also watched the teaser trailer that was made up of footage not found in the final film. I don't think they included it on the Blu-ray. You can download it in very high quality from Disnee's servers by copying and pasting the following link on a new tab.

"http://wdmp-wdsmp.rd.llnw.net/wdsmp/TRON/VFXConcept/Grid_VFX_ConceptTest_1080.mov"

[DoomSlayer]

Many people suggested this film as one of the best 3D movies ever, so I went for it.

Turns out it's disappointing af, I only watch animated films and live action films that were shot with real 3D cameras instead of post conversion.

The natural depth and layer separation was good but pop out effect was very bad, considering they promoted 3D a lot for this film they could have used the technology in a way better way. Many scenes and elements where you typically expect good 3D effect are lackluster, I don't know if the problem is with 3d bluray transfer of the film

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by DoomSlayer

Many people suggested this film as one of the best 3D movies ever, so I went for it.

Turns out it's disappointing af, I only watch animated films and live action films that were shot with real 3D cameras instead of post conversion.

The natural depth and layer separation was good but pop out effect was very bad, considering they promoted 3D a lot for this film they could have used the technology in a way better way. Many scenes and elements where you typically expect good 3D effect are lackluster, I don't know if the problem is with 3d bluray transfer of the film

I don't know who these people are but this movie has been discussed many, many times and the majority of us agree that the 3D is mostly weak. But as you say there is some ok depth and layer separation. The 3D actually gets a a little stronger towards the end and there are a couple of excellent pop-outs too. This is one of those movies where if there is an issue with setup or a person's vision then the 3D will be pretty non-existent except for the kind of 3D you see in 2D movies.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by cdx47

I don't know who these people are but this movie has been discussed many, many times and the majority of us agree that the 3D is mostly weak. But as you say there is some ok depth and layer separation. The 3D actually gets a a little stronger towards the end and there are a couple of excellent pop-outs too. This is one of those movies where if there is an issue with setup or a person's vision then the 3D will be pretty non-existent except for the kind of 3D you see in 2D movies.

This is what I'm on about, when 3D enthusiasts start having runaway enthusiasm for 3D and forget that if it isn't kept in check then other 3D viewers will wind up being basically gaslit.

[3dblurayofsunshine]

Originally Posted by DoomSlayer

Many people suggested this film as one of the best 3D movies ever, so I went for it.

Turns out it's disappointing af, I only watch animated films and live action films that were shot with real 3D cameras instead of post conversion.

The natural depth and layer separation was good but pop out effect was very bad, considering they promoted 3D a lot for this film they could have used the technology in a way better way. Many scenes and elements where you typically expect good 3D effect are lackluster, I don't know if the problem is with 3d bluray transfer of the film

This movie should be a lesson that shunning post converted 3D movies is foolish. There are loads of converted movies with much better 3D than this. While it’s true that it’s hard to beat a well done native 3D movie, there’s plenty of mild or error riddled native titles, and plenty of good to excellent converted 3D movies. Don’t deny yourself literally hundreds of great titles!

[sevenlilies1937]

Originally Posted by DoomSlayer

Turns out it's disappointing af, I only watch animated films and live action films that were shot with real 3D cameras instead of post conversion.

IMO this is a mistake. there are many good 3D conversions. native is best, but the conversion process has really gotten better over the years.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by sevenlilies1937

IMO this is a mistake. there are many good 3D conversions. native is best, but the conversion process has really gotten better over the years.

I wouldn't say that Native is "the best", but it is still preferred by many. But I would much rather have a medium to strong post-conversion than weak native 3D (Tron Legacy for example). I'm also fine with most post-conversions only turning up the 3D for important/action scenes. Plus modern conversions are able to do things that are impossible to achieve natively. Maybe the ideal would be native 3D mixed with touches of post-conversion.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by cdx47

I wouldn't say that Native is "the best", but it is still preferred by many. But I would much rather have a medium to strong post-conversion than weak native 3D (Tron Legacy for example). I'm also fine with most post-conversions only turning up the 3D for important/action scenes. Plus modern conversions are able to do things that are impossible to achieve natively. Maybe the ideal would be native 3D mixed with touches of post-conversion.

Does that ideal describe the situation of this film?

Seems to me native has the definitive edge nowadays as the director can view the result in real-time, vs post conversion where the results are rolled out weeks/months later, and the artistic intent of the director is necessarily adjusted by the interpretation of the conversion team.

Post conversion, much to my lament, seems like it has to work from the 2D cut of the film.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

Does that ideal describe the situation of this film?

Seems to me native has the definitive edge nowadays as the director can view the result in real-time, vs post conversion where the results are rolled out weeks/months later, and the artistic intent of the director is necessarily adjusted by the interpretation of the conversion team.

Post conversion, much to my lament, seems like it has to work from the 2D cut of the film.

Tron Legacy is obviously far from ideal but as I said, the 3D does pick up in the last 4th of the movie. I get the potential issues with post-conversion but for the most part I have been very happy with the results. It's just not possible to replicate the Iron Man flying scenes from Marvel's Avengers. Every angle is shown including his helmet cam and it is awesome.

[WaverBoy]

The native 3D implementation in TRON: LEGACY is a complete waste of time and money IMO. They totally blew it. This could have been an absolutely amazing 3D experience. Sadly, it’s the exact opposite, one of the most stereoscopically lackluster native 3D productions in film history. There are loads of conversions with much more impressive 3D than TL.

[levcore]

and yet you still have people who maintain this is 3D done right, or this is one of the best 3D experiences out there. I was on the old IMDB forums (or at least the new site that hosts the old forums) the other day and was in the Tron Legacy thread and there were multiple posters claiming this is one of the best 3D presentations out there (and this isn't just from when it was released but a lot more recently). I don't get it.

[mar3o]

Trine (older PC platformer-type game) in 3D is stunning on a 3D TV. Absolutely jaw-dropping depth and gorgeous colors and visuals. Even with Nvidia's newer drivers that dropped 3D support, the game has an option to output SBS 3D which any 3D TV can recognize, with no 3D video driver needed.

[WaverBoy]

I’d like a top-notch Jurassic Park-quality conversion of the original film, please and thank you.

[peacemakerx]

Originally Posted by Amethyst

I don't understand what's happening in the pics, but it looks cool nonetheless.

With the possible story elements discussed, if the question is on the technical side... I used the left and right eye stereo views to create a 3D GIF.

Since there is very little separation between both eye views the 3D effect is mild on the Tron Legacy 3D GIF. Look at the below GIF on the bottom of my post to see how it should look with Strong 3D.

Originally Posted by Telegram Sam

Great stuff, interesting left/right flips. That Tron Legacy one is embarrassingly feeble (like much of that movie's 3D...). Things are looking up for the new movie. A shame they've passed up on the chance to whistle up some '80s nostalgia and call it Tron 3D..!

Disney could do something really awesome here and redo the 3D of Tron Legacy for the double feature with Tron Ares.

Before (Official Studio Release):





After: (Strong 3D Re-Conversion)




As a 3D GIF:

[Show spoiler]

I mean is such a task financially feasible? It would be a visually nice surprise paired up with Tron Ares.

[dominicmgm]

Originally Posted by peacemakerx

With the possible story elements discussed, if the question is on the technical side... I used the left and right eye stereo views to create a 3D GIF.

Since there is very little separation between both eye views the 3D effect is mild on the Tron Legacy 3D GIF. Look at the below GIF on the bottom of my post to see how it should look with Strong 3D.






Disney could do something really awesome here and redo the 3D of Tron Legacy for the double feature with Tron Ares.

Before (Official Studio Release):





After: (Strong 3D Re-Conversion)




As a 3D GIF:

[Show spoiler]

I mean is such a task financially feasible? It would be a visually nice surprise paired up with Tron Ares.

What did you use for the re-conversion? iw3? StereoCrafter?