The Raid (2012)

[BIGLAD]

Is anybody else having problems playing this on a multiregion player?

[beadelf]

Originally Posted by Blfan

For me, the PQ was an improvement to my cinema viewing.

I didnt have a problem with the PQ either to be fair, I thought it it looked exactly how I saw it at the cinema.

[rjf78]

pictorial cuts details for the two versions

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=371804

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by rjf78

pictorial cuts details for the two versions

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=371804

Thanks for that, I was wondering when those guys would feature The Raid. No wonder I didn't notice anything amiss when watching either version, the cuts are minimal compared to the rest of the carnage in the film.

[Alopex]

Does anyone know what version of this film is included with the Entertainment One UK double pack? Is it unique? Uncut? Did they recycle the momentum UK release?

I can't seem to find any proper information as this company never put the first movie out standalone.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by Alopex

Does anyone know what version of this film is included with the Entertainment One UK double pack? Is it unique? Uncut? Did they recycle the momentum UK release?

I can't seem to find any proper information as this company never put the first movie out standalone.

eOne and Momentum are the same company, it should be the same.

[Peachfuzz]

Originally Posted by Alopex

Does anyone know what version of this film is included with the Entertainment One UK double pack? Is it unique? Uncut? Did they recycle the momentum UK release?

It's exactly the same versions, complete with the same utterly awful banding that plagued the first film's initial blu-ray release.

[Alopex]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

eOne and Momentum are the same company, it should be the same.

Originally Posted by Peachfuzz

It's exactly the same versions, complete with the same utterly awful banding that plagued the first film's initial blu-ray release.

Oh. Damn. :/

Looks like I'm going to have to go for the USA release after all. Yay region locking.

Thanks guys.

[drush9999]

Originally Posted by Alopex

Oh. Damn. :/

Looks like I'm going to have to go for the USA release after all. Yay region locking.

Thanks guys.

The US release has the Indonesian soundtrack with the original score. So that's also a reason.

[saltysam]

Am i right in thinking that usa disc is best for the first and uk is best for the sequel?

[navydavey]

Originally Posted by saltysam

Am i right in thinking that usa disc is best for the first and uk is best for the sequel?

I believe so, the US Steelbook version of the first movie is also region B compatible (the Pop art Steelbook). I assume the standard amaray US version is too as it’s probably the same disc but as I have the US Steelbook that’s the only one I can confirm.

[Sky_Captain]

I wouldn't be going out of my way to import Sony's release of The Raid, unless you really want the original score.

[Indiana Jonezzz...]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

I wouldn't be going out of my way to import Sony's release of The Raid, unless you really want the original score.

Is there a better option though? It’s still better than the UK disc.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

I wouldn't be going out of my way to import Sony's release of The Raid, unless you really want the original score.

Or you don't want it looking like it's been encoded by a baboon.

[wesslan]

HK disc is pretty nice but if you want region B maybe AU?

US - AVC 23051 kbps, Indonesian DTS-HD MA 5.1 3531 kbps 24-bit, English subs (Region free)
UK - AVC, Indonesian DTS-MA 5.1, compression problems, missing original score, English subs (Region B locked)
HK - AVC, Indonesian Dolby TrueHD 5.1 96kHz upsampling, English subs (Region A)
NO/SE/FI/DK - AVC 22478 kbps, Indonesian DTS-HD MA 5.1 3689 kbps 24-bit, no English subs (Region B)
AU - AVC 30653 kbps 24fps, Indonesian DTS-HD MA 5.1 2009 kbps 16-bit, English subs (Region B)

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jonezzz...

Is there a better option though? It’s still better than the UK disc.

It's gonna look like ass, regardless. Just a slightly better looking ass.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Or you don't want it looking like it's been encoded by a baboon.

This is also true.

[Geoff D]

I mean, the film was shot on a potato so it's never going to look conventionally pretty, or even mediocre, but to me there's still a difference between the quality of the source and the quality of the encoding, if the latter is poor it shouldn't be dismissed just because the former isn't great either. The banding on the UK Blu is outrageously bad, I got it for free (I reviewed it back while I was still writing for the digital fix) and yet I still ordered the Sony as soon as I possibly could. Far better encode IMO.

[Sky_Captain]

I'd prefer that people temper their expectations.

If they're going to buy the US release thinking it's going to iron out the numerous visual compromises that this film has, by virtue of not being encoded by Miky Dolenz and chums, they're going to be disappointed.

And I own the Sony disc.

[Geoff D]

Well, yeah, hence the 'shot on a potato' routine above. But if anyone's even remotely sensitive to banding - though I admit that most people won't have a clue what we're talking about - then the UK disc just isn't good enough.

[Peachfuzz]

It's not good enough by half. I knew the film was rough after seeing it in the cinema, but Momentum fed the thing through a woodchipper before spitting it onto disc.