Finally picked up the Universal disc. This is the French disc but as it has German ratings on the disc and Japanese subs, I am gonna go ahead and say that Universal only authored one disc.
General
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Format : Blu-ray Playlist
File size : 494 Bytes
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
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00:11:24.058 : Chapter 2
00:24:39.561 : Chapter 3
00:37:58.276 : Chapter 4
00:45:36.650 : Chapter 5
00:53:25.785 : Chapter 6
01:18:24.408 : Chapter 7
01:29:26.444 : Chapter 8
01:32:59.073 : Chapter 9
Finally picked up the Universal disc. This is the French disc but as it has German ratings on the disc and Japanese subs, I am gonna go ahead and say that Universal only authored one disc.
General
Complete name : O:\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00020.mpls
Format : Blu-ray Playlist
File size : 494 Bytes
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 b/s
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : 36
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Writing library : ATEME Titan File 3.8.18 (4.8.18.2)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 1100 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 820 cd/m2
format_identifier : HDMV
Source : 00000.m2ts
Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS XLL
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Language : French
Source : 00000.m2ts
Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS XLL
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Language : English
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Duration : 1 h 32 min
Language : Japanese
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Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
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Codec ID : 144
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Language : French
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Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Duration : 1 h 32 min
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00:00:00.000 : Chapter 1
00:11:24.058 : Chapter 2
00:24:39.561 : Chapter 3
00:37:58.276 : Chapter 4
00:45:36.650 : Chapter 5
00:53:25.785 : Chapter 6
01:18:24.408 : Chapter 7
01:29:26.444 : Chapter 8
01:32:59.073 : Chapter 9
Spotted it on Netflix initially but got 5 mins in and noped the hell out, the quality was absolutely abysmal and the encode had a weird, coarse, error-laden look to it. Not sure what it was exactly, but every now and then, some encodes on Netflix just go full toilet mode.
Just got the UK disc and popped it in for a second to check out how it holds up and it's night and day. All footage is given room to breathe but the 65mm stuff is wonderful, so much presence. Black levels are superb too.
A heads up for anyone ordering from Amazon UK. I ordered yesterday and received the following variant today:
Viva Elite Eco Case (sealed, slimline, ~12.5mm?)
Slipcover Included
4K UHD BD + 1080P BD
No Postcards/Extras
Edit: Just read the rest of the thread. Disappointing about the magenta push. I must've only caught a glance of the solid shots..
Screams for a test doesn't it . I don't have the 4K but maybe someone is interested in checking this, who has.
I've tried it in converted SDR but it somehow looks even worse, that red push is so pervasive it just ruins it every which way. Even using the white balance controls on the TV can only do so much, even if I dial red back by like 20 points it STILL looks redder than the SDR grade on the BD. Abysmal.
I've tried it in converted SDR but it somehow looks even worse, that red push is so pervasive it just ruins it every which way. Even using the white balance controls on the TV can only do so much, even if I dial red back by like 20 points it STILL looks redder than the SDR grade on the BD. Abysmal.
I really have no idea how this 4K disc could go so wrong as it has and why they didn't notice this in the process
I really have no idea how this 4K disc could go so wrong as it has and why they didn't notice this in the process
The Bluray is lovely!
From what I've seen since of how Final Frame approach HDR grading, let me just say I'm not surprised that Apollo 11 looks as ridonkulously overcooked as it does.
Finally picked up the Universal disc. This is the French disc but as it has German ratings on the disc and Japanese subs, I am gonna go ahead and say that Universal only authored one disc.
General
Complete name : O:\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00020.mpls
Format : Blu-ray Playlist
File size : 494 Bytes
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 b/s
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : 36
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Writing library : ATEME Titan File 3.8.18 (4.8.18.2)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 1100 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 820 cd/m2
format_identifier : HDMV
Source : 00000.m2ts
Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS XLL
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Language : French
Source : 00000.m2ts
Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS XLL
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Language : English
Source : 00000.m2ts
Text #1
ID : 4768 (0x12A0)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Language : English
Source : 00000.m2ts
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ID : 4769 (0x12A1)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Language : Japanese
Source : 00000.m2ts
Text #3
ID : 4770 (0x12A2)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Language : French
Source : 00000.m2ts
Text #4
ID : 4771 (0x12A3)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Language : German
Source : 00000.m2ts
Text #5
ID : 4772 (0x12A4)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Duration : 1 h 32 min
Language : French
Source : 00000.m2ts
Menu
00:00:00.000 : Chapter 1
00:11:24.058 : Chapter 2
00:24:39.561 : Chapter 3
00:37:58.276 : Chapter 4
00:45:36.650 : Chapter 5
00:53:25.785 : Chapter 6
01:18:24.408 : Chapter 7
01:29:26.444 : Chapter 8
01:32:59.073 : Chapter 9
Do you know if the accompanying French Blu-ray disc is region-free?
Judging from some of the comments in this thread, it sounds like the 4K version on Vudu actually looks really good, and doesn't contain the heavy pink/magenta push? Can someone confirm this?
Was thinking of getting the 4K blu-ray, but since the 4K streaming version is currently on sale at Vudu for $7.99, I might just go for that instead.
Judging from some of the comments in this thread, it sounds like the 4K version on Vudu actually looks really good, and doesn't contain the heavy pink/magenta push? Can someone confirm this?
Was thinking of getting the 4K blu-ray, but since the 4K streaming version is currently on sale at Vudu for $7.99, I might just go for that instead.
Not sure on vudu but the itunes one doesn't - and it had extras.
So I went ahead and did a few more "shot to shot" comparisons of the 4k UHD and the BR releases of this film that I enjoyed so very much watching in theatres in 2019.
For a time I actually worked at Final Frame myself, the company who did a lot of the post-production work (before this project existed) and was not surprised they did such an amazing job making this picture look as gorgeous as it looks.
I have a background in digital compositing for film but even to an untrained eye the differences are big enough between both to notice. With that being said, my findings were that both formats have their pros and cons, here and there to be considered and pointed out if you are wondering about the two versions.
Ultimately, my conclusion is that it is obvious the BR has a more natural, consistent and neutral way of looking than the 4K, that said, there are some things you might want to keep that in mind before disregarding the 4k:
1) The difference is not always that big or necessarily better on every shot but rather more noticeable on specific sequences and shots of specific formats.
2) The 4k is still considerably superior in terms of resolution and in some shots I feel like the color of the 4k looks arguably better than the BR, which might look a little too "blue" for my taste and don't remember it being as such in theatres either, rather very neutral if anything.
3) If you so loved the immaculate high-resolution this film had in theatres, you might prefer the 4k if the colours aren't completely a deal breaker for you, granting it is far from perfect but naturally superior in resolution to the BR. Specially if you have a really big screen, some 4k shots might look absolutely amazing all things considered. Even the B&W stock pictures from the beginning of the doc. look really good and better than the BR in my opinion.
(Please excuse the time bar showing in some of the frames, I realized they stayed after quick capturing).
All countries
Argentina
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Bulgaria
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China
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Cyprus
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Estonia
Denmark
Finland
Greece
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
Indonesia
Ireland
Israel
India
Latvia
Lithuania
Malaysia
New Zealand
Norway
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russia
Singapore
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Sweden
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Taiwan
Thailand
Turkey
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
. I don't have the 4K but maybe someone is interested in checking this, who has.
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