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Old 08-14-2013, 07:06 PM   #2201
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Prometheus on Blu-ray looks stunning to me. No EE, tons of detail, it's quite lovely in an obviously digital way.
I might be mistaking the sharp digital look around the edges for EE. It doesn't bother me when I watch it. I thought the disc looked stunning personally, it also looked amazing when I saw it in the cinemas.

I checked my sharpness settings to see if I accidentally set it too high by mistake but it was normal.

Meh lol

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Spidey looks better in 4K. I'm glad I got it.
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I might be mistaking the sharp digital look around the edges for EE. It doesn't bother me when I watch it. I thought the disc looked stunning personally, it also looked amazing when I saw it in the cinemas.

I checked my sharpness settings to see if I accidentally set it too high by mistake but it was normal.

Meh lol
What do you set your sharpness seeing our of curiosity,The Fallen Deity? I only have mine at 9 out of a possible 100, but you would think it was set on 90 watching The Dark Knight which I did last night. EE! EE!! EE everywhere on that movie in the 35mm sequences.
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What do you set your sharpness seeing our of curiosity,The Fallen Deity? I only have mine at 9 out of a possible 100, but you would think it was set on 90 watching The Dark Knight which I did last night. EE! EE!! EE everywhere on that movie in the 35mm sequences.
My ISF dude knocked mine down to 3 or something
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:01 AM   #2205
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Spidey looks better in 4K. I'm glad I got it.
Yes, both Spidey films look immensely better scanned in 4k.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:22 PM   #2206
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What do you set your sharpness seeing our of curiosity,The Fallen Deity? I only have mine at 9 out of a possible 100, but you would think it was set on 90 watching The Dark Knight which I did last night. EE! EE!! EE everywhere on that movie in the 35mm sequences.
I have mine at around 10 so it's pretty low. I did one time accidentally reset the TV to factory mode and the sharpness was ridiculously high. I spent ages trying to get the settings back to how I usually have them, it was a right pain in the ass lol.

The picture quality looks horrible on my TV when the sharpness is set too high. Edge ringing galore.

I agree about TDK, it's edgy as hell even on low settings.

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Old 08-16-2013, 09:29 PM   #2207
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Optimal sharpness setting depends on the display. I've had four different ISF calibrated displays and the setting has varied on all of them. I am at zero on my current display.
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Optimal sharpness setting depends on the display. I've had four different ISF calibrated displays and the setting has varied on all of them. I am at zero on my current display.
The TV I had before my current one was calibrated differently in terms of sharpness but they looked very similar. Funnily enough they were the same make, the only difference was the size of the screen.
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Does anyone know if a 3rd wave will be coming anytime soon?
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:46 AM   #2210
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I've been very curious to know - I thought by now the next two waves would have been announced.
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Ok, I'm sorry, but I couldn't find it in this massive thrread...

1 - What are all the Wave One titles?
2 - What are all the Wave Two titles?
3 - How much better does the ReMastered in 4K Ghostbusters look over the previous Blu-Ray?
4 - How much better does the ReMastered in 4K 'Zilla look over the previous Blu-Ray?
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:20 AM   #2212
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I bought Spider-Man 2 (Mastered in 4k) yesterday and I'm a little confused by this Expanded Color xvYCC stuff.

I thought my TV doesn't support it anyway but there is a xvYCC option which is grayed out on ever other disc I tried but with Spidey 2 I can select on/automatic/off. If I select on or automatic the picture changes - the black bars turn grey. Maybe that makes sense because the brightness settings don't fit for the expanded color.

I calibrated my TV with this disc:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Spear...-Blu-ray/4831/
But with that disc I can't select xvYCC so I can't adjust the settings for that color space.
Is there a calibration disc that supports xvYCC or another way to adjust the settings? Or is that whole xvYCC stuff overrated anyway so it doesn't make sense to put that much effort into it?
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:38 AM   #2213
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I bought Spider-Man 2 (Mastered in 4k) yesterday and I'm a little confused by this Expanded Color xvYCC stuff.

I thought my TV doesn't support it anyway but there is a xvYCC option which is grayed out on ever other disc I tried but with Spidey 2 I can select on/automatic/off. If I select on or automatic the picture changes - the black bars turn grey. Maybe that makes sense because the brightness settings don't fit for the expanded color.

I calibrated my TV with this disc:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Spear...-Blu-ray/4831/
But with that disc I can't select xvYCC so I can't adjust the settings for that color space.
Is there a calibration disc that supports xvYCC or another way to adjust the settings? Or is that whole xvYCC stuff overrated anyway so it doesn't make sense to put that much effort into it?
Please can you list your gear.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:39 AM   #2214
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Ok, I'm sorry, but I couldn't find it in this massive thrread...

1 - What are all the Wave One titles?
2 - What are all the Wave Two titles?
3 - How much better does the ReMastered in 4K Ghostbusters look over the previous Blu-Ray?
4 - How much better does the ReMastered in 4K 'Zilla look over the previous Blu-Ray?
1 - See first page.
2 - See first page.
3 - A lot better.
4 - A lot better.

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Please can you list your gear.
Blu-ray player: Panasonic BDT120 (identical to the BDT220 but without WLAN, Regionfree firmware which also activates features that are normally only available on the BDT320/500)
AVR: Yamaha RX-V371
TV: LG LH3000 32" Full HD (Small room, so my viewing distance is under 1.5 meters - before anyone says the TV is too small anyway )

All EU versions - If that is important - I know that Panasonic deactivates some features in the US.

I know, it's not High-End equipment that's why I was surprised that xvYCC seems to be supported. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that (almost?) all LG models support ISF calibration.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:19 AM   #2216
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Blu-ray player: Panasonic BDT120 (identical to the BDT220 but without WLAN, Regionfree firmware which also activates features that are normally only available on the BDT320/500)
AVR: Yamaha RX-V371
TV: LG LH3000 32" Full HD (Small room, so my viewing distance is under 1.5 meters - before anyone says the TV is too small anyway )

All EU versions - If that is important - I know that Panasonic deactivates some features in the US.

I know, it's not High-End equipment that's why I was surprised that xvYCC seems to be supported. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that (almost?) all LG models support ISF calibration.
Ok.

Set your player to output YCbCr 4:4:4.
Set the xvYCC setting in your display to ON.
Make sure that any video processing in your amp is off.

How does it look now? If still nothing, select YCbCr 4:2:2, set colour gamut setting on your display to wide and see how it looks.

Its always best, once you have set different settings to turn all your equipment off and then check out the results.

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Old 08-21-2013, 10:42 AM   #2217
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Set your player to output YCbCr 4:4:4.
Set the xvYCC setting in your display to ON.
Make sure that any video processing in your amp is off.
These are the settings I had when I tried. If I turn xvYCC on the picture gets brighter, too bright. Gamma is on the lowest (darkest) setting, color gamut is set to wide.
Do I just have to adjust brightness (and contrast?) for xvYCC?
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These are the settings I had when I tried. If I turn xvYCC on the picture gets brighter, too bright. Gamma is on the lowest (darkest) setting, color gamut is set to wide.
Do I just have to adjust brightness (and contrast?) for xvYCC?
Ok. Have you tried setting Colour gamut to standard? Do the black bars look black when the setting for xvYCC is set to ON?

And to answer your other questions from your previous post, the 1st edition of S&M I do not think there is any xvYCC test patterns or content. On the 2nd edition there are some xvYCC stuff (clipping boxes). But there isn't any xvYCC calibration stuff out there at the moment, that I know of. Have a search online and see if you can find anything. I don't think that the AVS HD 709 content has any xvYCC material/patterns either.

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Old 08-21-2013, 12:26 PM   #2219
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I know it maybe difficult/costly for some, but make sure that your display has been calibrated as close as possible to Rec. 709. Then you know that what you are seeing is correct. xvYCC is still based on primaries and white point of 709 so if the image looks completely different and you need to start changing gamma, brightness, contrast, etc. drastically, then it really isn't worth bothering with, because you will end up with an image that is completely off from 709.
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I know it maybe difficult/costly for some, but make sure that your display has been calibrated as close as possible to Rec. 709. Then you know that what you are seeing is correct. xvYCC is still based on primaries and white point of 709 so if the image looks completely different and you need to start changing gamma, brightness, contrast, etc. drastically, then it really isn't worth bothering with, because you will end up with an image that is completely off from 709.
That has been my wonder and concern about using xvYCC although I am not even sure if my display has it or not.
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