Sony "Mastered in 4K" Blu-ray Titles May 14 and July 16

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

1 - See first page.
2 - See first page.
3 - A lot better.
4 - A lot better.

Ok. Thank you.

Also, I thought that there were more than just about 12 Titles released...

1- How glaring/jarring/obvious is the CGI on the Raimi Spider-Man films. I tried to watch the Blu-Ray and it pulled me right out of the film.

2- Same question, bit for 'Zilla...

[MaxPowers]

I have recently purchased my first mastered in 4K disc (Godzilla) and have a problem with playback.

It plays fine, but every once in a while a sign pops up in the upper left corner on the screen that says 1080p/24hz, signal: X.V. Color. Moreso it seems to pop up randomly throughout the film, but curiously doesn't during end credits. I have uploaded a picture of this in the attachment (please don't mind the Russian language).

My BD player is Sony S790, my TV is Panasonic ST50. No other discs have caused this problem. The only way I managed to fix this is by turning on the RGB color as mandatory. But as I understand this feature is inferior to 4:4:4, or 4:4:2.

Can anyone provide any advice. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by MaxPowers

I have recently purchased my first mastered in 4K disc (Godzilla) and have a problem with playback.

It plays fine, but every once in a while a sign pops up in the upper left corner on the screen that says 1080p/24hz, signal: X.V. Color. Moreso it seems to pop up randomly throughout the film, but curiously doesn't during end credits. I have uploaded a picture of this in the attachment (please don't mind the Russian language).

My BD player is Sony S790, my TV is Panasonic ST50. No other discs have caused this problem. The only way I managed to fix this is by turning on the RGB color as mandatory. But as I understand this feature is inferior to 4:4:4, or 4:4:2.

Can anyone provide any advice. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

HDMI cable that can't handle the bandwidth?

[Tech-UK]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

That has been my wonder and concern about using xvYCC although I am not even sure if my display has it or not.

Most Panasonic displays are x.v.Colour capable. Your Oppo isn't though.

[Tech-UK]

Originally Posted by MaxPowers

I have recently purchased my first mastered in 4K disc (Godzilla) and have a problem with playback.

It plays fine, but every once in a while a sign pops up in the upper left corner on the screen that says 1080p/24hz, signal: X.V. Color. Moreso it seems to pop up randomly throughout the film, but curiously doesn't during end credits. I have uploaded a picture of this in the attachment (please don't mind the Russian language).

My BD player is Sony S790, my TV is Panasonic ST50. No other discs have caused this problem. The only way I managed to fix this is by turning on the RGB color as mandatory. But as I understand this feature is inferior to 4:4:4, or 4:4:2.

Can anyone provide any advice. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

As Peter suggested you could try a different HDMI cable, make sure its labelled as 'High speed'.

But this maybe down to a x.v.Colour problem or its creating one i.e. the information keeps on flapping on screen. From looking at your display and player manual's you cannot actually turn off x.v.Colour, the only way to do it is as you have done, select to send RGB. This is because x.v.Colour is only sent when either YCbCr 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 is output (if a Blu-ray is encoded with x.v.Colour info, as is the case with these 'Mastered in 4K' Sony discs).

No one 'colour space' is inferior to the other. Its down to your equipment. The only way to gain best results is to calibrate/use the Spears and Munsil test disc to determine which colour space to output. I believe Panasonics like to be fed 4:2:2.

[MaxPowers]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

As Peter suggested you could try a different HDMI cable, make sure its labelled as 'High speed'.

But this maybe down to a x.v.Colour problem or its creating one i.e. the information keeps on flapping on screen. From looking at your display and player manual's you cannot actually turn off x.v.Colour, the only way to do it is as you have done, select to send RGB. This is because x.v.Colour is only sent when either YCbCr 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 is output (if a Blu-ray is encoded with x.v.Colour info, as is the case with these 'Mastered in 4K' Sony discs).

No one 'colour space' is inferior to the other. Its down to your equipment. The only way to gain best results is to calibrate/use the Spears and Munsil test disc to determine which colour space to output. I believe Panasonics like to be fed 4:2:2.

I have tried different HDMI cables, switched to one with high speed (I believe monster cable brand) but did not help at all. I guess the only way to watch these blu rays is ti have it on RGB.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by MaxPowers

I have recently purchased my first mastered in 4K disc (Godzilla) and have a problem with playback.

It plays fine, but every once in a while a sign pops up in the upper left corner on the screen that says 1080p/24hz, signal: X.V. Color. Moreso it seems to pop up randomly throughout the film, but curiously doesn't during end credits. I have uploaded a picture of this in the attachment (please don't mind the Russian language).

My BD player is Sony S790, my TV is Panasonic ST50. No other discs have caused this problem. The only way I managed to fix this is by turning on the RGB color as mandatory. But as I understand this feature is inferior to 4:4:4, or 4:4:2.

Can anyone provide any advice. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You're lucky the picture doesn't drop out completely. My S790 doesn't like Ghostbusters Mi4K at all, 'cause any time the bit rate goes over 40 mbps *BLIP* the screen goes blank. Brilliant performance from Sony's flagship machine.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

As Peter suggested you could try a different HDMI cable, make sure its labelled as 'High speed'.

But this maybe down to a x.v.Colour problem or its creating one i.e. the information keeps on flapping on screen. From looking at your display and player manual's you cannot actually turn off x.v.Colour, the only way to do it is as you have done, select to send RGB. This is because x.v.Colour is only sent when either YCbCr 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 is output (if a Blu-ray is encoded with x.v.Colour info, as is the case with these 'Mastered in 4K' Sony discs).

No one 'colour space' is inferior to the other. Its down to your equipment. The only way to gain best results is to calibrate/use the Spears and Munsil test disc to determine which colour space to output. I believe Panasonics like to be fed 4:2:2.

4:4:4 is actually better on my VT60.

[BDS23420]

if i buy 4K blu's would i have to change the settings on my equipment??? how would that effect my other movies???

thanks,
BDS

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by BDS23420

if i buy 4K blu's would i have to change the settings on my equipment??? how would that effect my other movies???

thanks,
BDS

For the zillionth time they are no different than any other BD except that they come from a 4K DI instead of 2K.

[BozQ]

Easy there. I think we should consider putting up a sticky thread explaining what is this Mastered in 4K Blu-ray all about.

Most of Sony's marketing is geared towards confusing the uninformed audience to dive into the "next generation"

[d514]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

Ok. Have you tried setting Colour gamut to standard? Do the black bars look black when the setting for xvYCC is set to ON?

And to answer your other questions from your previous post, the 1st edition of S&M I do not think there is any xvYCC test patterns or content. On the 2nd edition there are some xvYCC stuff (clipping boxes). But there isn't any xvYCC calibration stuff out there at the moment, that I know of. Have a search online and see if you can find anything. I don't think that the AVS HD 709 content has any xvYCC material/patterns either.

Colour Gamut doesn't have much effect on the brightness. I can set two different expert settings on my TV.
To view the film I deactivated the xvYCC setting in "Expert1" and used "Expert2" with xvYCC and adjusted brightness and contrast to match "Expert1". "Expert2" looked a little better after that. Less banding in the background on darker scenes. As said before, for Expert1 I used the Spears&Munsil disc to adjust the TV. It may not be perfect but I think it's very good. Maybe I'll invest in a professional ISF calibration when I get a new TV but not for my current 3 year old 350 Euro TV...

Thanks for your help.

[BDS23420]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Easy there. I think we should consider putting up a sticky thread explaining what is this Mastered in 4K Blu-ray all about.

Most of Sony's marketing is geared towards confusing the uninformed audience to dive into the "next generation"

Thanks man.....the would be great. Any links to an article I could read?

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by BDS23420

Thanks man.....the would be great. Any links to an article I could read?

I tried to Google one, and I'm surprised to find not a good article explaining this properly.
I'll try and find another article again when it's convenient. 3G mobile sucks for me here. :/

[Tech-UK]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You're lucky the picture doesn't drop out completely. My S790 doesn't like Ghostbusters Mi4K at all, 'cause any time the bit rate goes over 40 mbps *BLIP* the screen goes blank. Brilliant performance from Sony's flagship machine.

What is your display Geoff?

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

4:4:4 is actually better on my VT60.

Cool, was that from viewing the test patterns on the S&M disc?

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

What is your display Geoff?



Cool, was that from viewing the test patterns on the S&M disc?

4:4:4 with 1080p pure direct off is best setting on VT60 if you have a Oppo player according to hdtvtest findings. If you have panasonic you can have 1080p pure on.

From review: the best way to watch Blu-rays on the TX-P65VT65B is with a Panasonic Blu-ray player (or similar), outputting 4:4:4,
with the [1080p Pure Direct] mode enabled, and the player’s advanced chroma processing feature turned on.
Even the cheapest current Panasonic BD players have this feature, and will outperform more expensive “boutique”
players in this minor regard. If you don’t have a player which smooths the chroma channels in this way, then you might
find that you prefer to feed the Panasonic VT65 with 4:4:4 video but to leave the [1080p Pure Direct] mode off,
which will effectively act as in-TV smoothing of small jagged colour details.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

What is your display Geoff?



Cool, was that from viewing the test patterns on the S&M disc?

It shows up on one of the chroma patterns. In addition, 4:4:4 must be used in order to use the "1080p Direct" option which removes a tiny bit of yc delay and offers other benefits.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by wesslan

4:4:4 with 1080p pure direct off is best setting on VT60 if you have a Oppo player according to hdtvtest findings. If you have panasonic you can have 1080p pure on.

From review: the best way to watch Blu-rays on the TX-P65VT65B is with a Panasonic Blu-ray player (or similar), outputting 4:4:4,
with the [1080p Pure Direct] mode enabled, and the player’s advanced chroma processing feature turned on.
Even the cheapest current Panasonic BD players have this feature, and will outperform more expensive “boutique”
players in this minor regard. If you don’t have a player which smooths the chroma channels in this way, then you might
find that you prefer to feed the Panasonic VT65 with 4:4:4 video but to leave the [1080p Pure Direct] mode off,
which will effectively act as in-TV smoothing of small jagged colour details.

Now that is interesting.....1080p Pure Direct Off with the Oppo.....might have to try that.

[RD1973]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You're lucky the picture doesn't drop out completely. My S790 doesn't like Ghostbusters Mi4K at all, 'cause any time the bit rate goes over 40 mbps *BLIP* the screen goes blank. Brilliant performance from Sony's flagship machine.

Wow, have you found a solution for this? I was planning to buy the S790, as well as a larger TV by Thanksgiving. The Mi4K titles were the first thing I was going to watch. Do any of them play ok on the S790?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

What is your display Geoff?

Sony 55" 4K. Trust me, it's not the TV as Ghostbusters Mi4K works absolutely fine thru my PS3 and my US Panny 110 player. It's the Sony player that's at fault, and I think I heard a mention of Ghostbusters doing the same thing on someone's LG deck.

Originally Posted by RD1973

Wow, have you found a solution for this? I was planning to buy the S790, as well as a larger TV by Thanksgiving. The Mi4K titles were the first thing I was going to watch. Do any of them play ok on the S790?

The S790 didn't do it on either of the Raimi Spider-Man Mi4K discs, but as soon as Ghostbusters starting flipped out I remembered having read about it somewhere on here. My solution was simple: send it back. It also decided to stop playing DVDs, so it was an easy decision in the end!