Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I wonder if it’s drug or drink related?

Mind you, that will be me if we don’t get films back soon.

He reminds me of what's his name who also could not find the exit on their own.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

He reminds me of what his name who also could not find the exit on their own.

SCLee? Yeah.

How you doing anyway. Getting through those Discs?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

SCLee? Yeah.

How you doing anyway. Getting through those Discs?

Never heard of her.

I am finding plenty of ways to fritter away my time. Watching PBS American history documentaries now. I just started; I am still in the French And Indian War.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Never heard of her.

I am finding plenty of ways to fritter away my time. Watching PBS American history documentaries now. I just started; I am still in the French And Indian War.

Been watching Dekalog. Boy, what a fantastic disc.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Been watching Dekalog. Boy, what a fantastic disc.

I need to upgrade that one; mine is still on DVD.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I need to upgrade that one; mine is still on DVD.

The transfer is very strong. Never seen it before but knew I would get around to buying it.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Pandemic Stay-at-Home Orders Lift Digital Home Entertainment Sales, Rentals to Record Heights in March





https://www.mediaplaynews.com/pandem...sales-rentals/

Crickets around this post from the physical contingent. I think this virus introduced a lot of people to digital. or at least possibly hooked them if you will.

Also, side note the modified content paranoia irks me and is the geek version of "they're gonna take my guns"

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by flyry

Crickets around this post from the physical contingent. I think this virus introduced a lot of people to digital. or at least possibly hooked them if you will.

If streaming shows increases, and media shows increases it just people wanting to escape their current existences. You try everything you can do while shelter in place goes on. There is no winner in all of this.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Crickets around this post from the physical contingent. I think this virus introduced a lot of people to digital. or at least possibly hooked them if you will.

Also, side note the modified content paranoia irks me and is the geek version of "they're gonna take my guns"

News flash, lockdown leads to people watching more digital content!

Yeah, it’s groundbreaking stuff, we all should have commented. Who would have thought that would happen?



The altered content issue has already happened. The aspect ratio shift with The Simpson’s, digital tampering with Splash, Toy Story 2, Adventures In Babysitting, Free Solo, The list goes on. Screw that.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by flyry

Crickets around this post from the physical contingent. I think this virus introduced a lot of people to digital. or at least possibly hooked them if you will.

Also, side note the modified content paranoia irks me and is the geek version of "they're gonna take my guns"

It's the opposite here. My three kids have online learning and usually have several video chat sessions every day.

When I have time for movies, I make sure it's on disc now so I don't cause the online classes they take to break up.

I don't have any guns so I'm ok with giving the paranoia to my movies.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I've been playing more discs than ever because I have 3 kids and someone is always online for school with Zoom or other video chat software.

It's exhausting having online classes that are breaking up when you are needing to hear what's said and it's garbled.

So .. with my extra time I make sure I'm watching my physical media.

But, hey ... that was a nice try.

It sounds like you are far from the only one. DVD and Blu-ray player sales have both increased over the last few weeks.

The difference being, people are probably enjoying their old discs because post is taking along time (sometimes 2-3 weeks from same country, 5-7 weeks overseas).
We also have folk who are not really into films but are so bored they are indulging.

This is a brief boost for digital, it’s that simple.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

If streaming shows increases, and media shows increases it just people wanting to escape their current existences. You try everything you can do while shelter in place goes on. There is no winner in all of this.

What’s funny is Netflix have decreased their quality. It’s like going from a economy burger to a undercooked economy burger!

[bhampton]

People with physical media can worry about losing them.

People who buy online movies don't have anything to lose and may not realize that.

People who only rent have basically nothing to worry about movie wise aside from the availability of a lot of crap content to sort through.

I like to sometimes watch something I have never heard of and certain steaming sites are good for that. esp if they are free. They aren't without purpose.

My biggest problem with streaming is with people who think they are buying movies and building a collection and refuse to acknowledge the truth. I bought digital movies but I learned the hard way they can disappear and it's part of the contract you agree to. If studios want to promote a cable tv channel or start up subscription service they can pull the movies whenever for whatever reason. The Studios upload to services like iTunes and then iTunes sells things they do not own and I have a problem with that. I think it's deceptive.

If you try "going digital" and buying movies and you don't have any problems it's because you don't pay attention. THere's plenty of problems and the whole buying online movies as a business is outdated and being consolidated and maybe will even be left behind. Business exists with cash flow. UV, Vudu, CinemaNow, Target Ticket, and all these services that sell you a rental are discovering there is no positive cash flow and they are passing on the problems and cutting the loses.

Movies Anywhere seems like the best thing because it brings all the services out of the storm and under one roof.

Then it occurs to anyone - Disney runs Movies Anywhere and Disney is hit harder by the currently lifestyle change than any business ever. Disney was used to tons of free money and now are losing just as much every minute.

Someday they will look at Movies Anywhere and Disney+ and decide which one they like better.

Or not... we shall see. Thankfully for the moment they are still supporting physical media with lots of new releases.

-Brian

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

People with physical media can worry about losing them.

People who buy online movies don't have anything to lose and may not realize that.

People who only rent have basically nothing to worry about movie wise aside from the availability of a lot of crap content to sort through.

I like to sometimes watch something I have never heard of and certain steaming sites are good for that. esp if they are free. They aren't without purpose.

My biggest problem with streaming is with people who think they are buying movies and building a collection and refuse to acknowledge the truth.

If you try "going digital" and buying movies and you don't have any problems it's because you don't pay attention. THere's plenty of problems and the whole buying online movies as a business is outdated and being consolidated and maybe will even be left behind. Business exists with cash flow. UV, Vudu, CinemaNow, Target Ticket, and all these sell you a rental places are discovering there is no positive cash flow and they are passing on the problems.

Movies Anywhere seems like the best thing because it brings all the services out of the storm and under one roof.

Then it occurs to anyone - Disney runs Movies Anywhere and Disney is hit harder by the currently lifestyle change than any business ever. Disney was used to tons of free money and now are losing just as much every minute.

Someday they will look at Movies Anywhere and Disney+ and decide which one they like better.

Or not... we shall see.

-Brian

Don’t forget Movies Anywhere is US only. Globally, there are many major countries (including mine) who don’t have it. it’s not like it’s a international business, it’s limited to the US. Outside of freak situations like this, digital sales are not great so that suggests everyone who wants to collect digital movies are already doing so. I don’t see much growth there to be honest.

I know I’m biased but I truthfully feel the format just doesn’t have legs.

[bhampton]

I really think that most places that SELL digital movies are really just places that mostly rent digital movies and if you buy one you can check it out whenever if they still have it.

I'm trying to imagine what it would have been like in the old days. If Blockbuster sold movies that remained in the store and you just go borrow them if they were available and eventually they would revert back to Blockbuster control.

Imagine how many people would have gone for that.

The places that SELL streaming content don't OWN it.

The attached screen shot shows a movie I "OWN" on iTunes, Amelie. It went back to cable circulation and left the iTunes Store. I still have access to a version (with iTunes extras so it's a actual iTunes purchase I made) in my library for now. iTunes suggests I should subscribe to Cinemax streaming service to watch this. With some movies when you scroll to how to play you can play your owned version but this movie only suggests Cinemax service.

Cloud movie Buyers are in for a rude awakening if they ever realize the truth of what they purchased.

-Brian

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

What’s funny is Netflix have decreased their quality. It’s like going from a economy burger to a undercooked economy burger!

Where's The Beef Commercials - Wendy's 1984 - YouTube

[bhampton]

That third posted commercial is a good example of potato vision. (Video from 1 minute till the end.)

[sapiendut]

I like that moniker Potato Vision. I’ll use that to describe bad streaming from now on.

[bhampton]

The origin story-

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/recorded-with-a-potato

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

I like that moniker Potato Vision. I’ll use that to describe bad streaming from now on.

Yep, same here.