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Old 12-21-2015, 12:04 AM   #23001
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Those look like Leia's hands, based on that ring [?]

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Old 12-21-2015, 12:43 AM   #23002
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wait a minute......this movie ended up breaking records??

who saw THAT coming??
lol - and remember, at least $100+ Million of that was ADVANCED ticket sales
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Old 12-21-2015, 12:45 AM   #23003
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:02 AM   #23004
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Now. Here's a big question. Knowing that George at one point wanted to make Episode VII before selling LucasFilm...do you think his version would have been as good or well received or do you think he did the right thing to sell LucasFilm first and allow them to do what they did with Episode VII?
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:06 AM   #23005
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Now. Here's a big question. Knowing that George at one point wanted to make Episode VII before selling LucasFilm...do you think his version would have been as good or well received or do you think he did the right thing to sell LucasFilm first and allow them to do what they did with Episode VII?


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Old 12-21-2015, 01:07 AM   #23006
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Now. Here's a big question. Knowing that George at one point wanted to make Episode VII before selling LucasFilm...do you think his version would have been as good or well received or do you think he did the right thing to sell LucasFilm first and allow them to do what they did with Episode VII?
I want to know the story he would have told.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:12 AM   #23007
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I personally don't think Lucas had anything left in him to continue the series. I bet he's so fed up of his creation that he just wants nothing more to do with it, hence selling it off to Disney. If it never went to Disney then I bet if we ever did get an episode 7 from Lucas it would be an empty shell of a film since I don't think he had the love for it any more.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:14 AM   #23008
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I think he had enough of the fans.

There's probably people out there blaming him for Force Awakens.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:17 AM   #23009
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I want to know the story he would have told.
One things for sure, it could have very well been great. George Lucas always has, and always will be, an incredible story man. His problems have always been that people didn't tell him no. Even the prequels have INCREDIBLE stories behind them. Someone just didn't stop him and say "hey George... These ideas are great, but how about you have someone re-write it, and step in to direct a bit more emotionally than you do."

A George planned Episode 7, written by Larry, and directed by JJ could have been just as good as what we got. George's heart clearly wasn't all that into his plan for 7, and it's why it was scrapped. If we got the George that was still excited about filmmaking to work on it, I imagine they'd have stuck to his plan honestly.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:21 AM   #23010
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I think he had enough of the fans.
Wouldn't surprise me. I mean the vocal fans are usually the ones that hate one thing or another, and if all he's seeing is hate then yeah I bet he started to resent the fan base.

But at the same time if you are putting your "artwork" out there for the public to see then you need to accept that there will be people that are going to criticise it.

I do think there are a lot of self entitled fans out there who think they are owed something from Lucas which to me is ridiculous.

An artist is never satisfied with his work, so it was inevitable he was going to go back and make changes to what he sees as for the better. They also need to know when enough is enough, and it really should have ended with the '97 re release.

I guess it served as a nice test bed for developing tools they used to create the PT with though.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:43 AM   #23011
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In all fairness, George Lucas never wanted to direct the prequel trilogy. He initially asked Steven Spielberg to direct but he turned it down...then he went along and asked a few other big directors who also turned it down. They might not have been made at all if he didn't direct them.

People also forget that he only directed Episode 4 in the original trilogy. I wonder if fans actually know the names of the other 2 directors in the original trilogy without looking them up on google.
I've heard the opposite if my memory serves correctly. Steven Speilberg wanted very much to direct one of the prequels, but George wanted to direct them himself, because it was his baby.
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:23 AM   #23012
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Saw the film earlier today for the first time. Yep, it's good. I can kinda see where folks are coming from with the repeated plot and nostalgia factor, but I never once felt like I was beat over the head with it, so I never thought of it as much of a problem. I'm definitely captivated by the new cast and story directions, and I'm definitely intrigued to see what happens next.

I tried to keep this review spoiler-free. I rounded it down to a 4/5 for the poll, but I won't know until repeat viewings whether I'd rate it even higher. It's definitely between than the prequels, not sure how I'd rank it next to the OT yet though.

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Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens

"The light — It's always been there. It'll guide you." - Lupita Nyong'o
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It's easy to become burned out over Star Wars. 38 years ago, the original film whetted audiences appetites for escapist adventure and fantasy, the likes of which were never seen before. The original magic and charm can become buried beneath the vitriol and controversy surrounding the sequels, prequels, revisions, spin-offs, and more. With George Lucas selling his company to Disney in 2012, the floodgates suddenly opened for a wave of new talent - writers, directors, actors, and more - to pick up the legacy of this troubled series and take into the next generation.

The Force Awakens is certainly the experience Star Wars fans crave. It has spectacular action - it starts off hard and fast with stormtroopers razing a village and fighters clashing in the skies. The most spectacular sequences include a breakneck chase scene over deserts and through the heart of a crashed spaceship. The last act is an all-out battle that shows X-Wings battling TIE fighters while the characters duke it out with blasters and lightsabers. It's all fast and it's some of the biggest scenes in the series.

Fortunately, it's not all that exhausting either - the film finds a decent balance between the spectacle, humor, and rolling the story forward.
Most reviews make this film sound like a remake of A New Hope. Undeniably, the film banks quite a bit on nostalgia, and it does repeat the broad story beats of the original film - both feature plots revolving around planet-destroying superweapons, rebels fighting a desperate battles to stop evil regimes, cantina scenes, aged mentors, and characters running across random droids who take them off-world on a grand adventure. Despite the notable similarities, I never once felt that I was being beaten over the head by nostalgia (whereas The Phantom Menace did make me feel battered by senseless cameos and references). The nostalgic factor in The Force Awakens is merely a knuckle in the overall fist that smashes the face of Star Wars apathy. Even with familiar faces returning, the film's focus is firmly set on new characters, and they are truly a lovable bunch. Finn and Rey are heroes who elicit great empathy in their struggles, and show a lot of personality and character through their various nuances (which is especially phenomenal given the short amount of time they actually have to develop in the midst of so much action). Kylo Ren is a truly intimidating villain, far more volatile than any before him. Once the motivations are clear for these characters, one can't help but to wonder what directions they will go next.

Unfortunately, that leads me to wonder what else is left unsaid in the film. Many questions won't be answered until the next episode. Others can only be speculated in the gap between this and Return of the Jedi (I personally wish more was said about the New Republic, the New Order, Snoke, and other odd things). Characters like General Hux and Captain Phasma are great to behold, but are the shallowest characters of the lot.

Despite the even flow and attention to characters, the plot itself is fast and loose (come to think of it, all of JJ Abrams' films are like that). This ultimately correlates to the film's biggest issue: like a Marvel movie, this film is built to bridge a franchise, rather than to craft an original story. It requires knowledge of what happened before, and it sets up what will happen next. The film does its job admirably to revitalize the series with new faces, an expanded universe, and the old-fashioned sense of adventure. Some audiences won't be so easily swayed.

Of all the Star Wars films, this may be one of the best-looking ones of the lot. Filmmakers took great care to craft a plethora of authentic new creatures, sets, props, weapons, vehicles, costumes, and more. The film is packed with real-looking places and things, lending it the same sense of realism that made the original so jarring. What computer-generated effects the film has are spectacular and take nothing away from the experience. An even more pleasant surprise is in the acting and the script. Dialogue is often sharp, witty, and provides enough depth to make the story feel more relevant (even if it is a retread). Daisy Ridley brings Rey to life beautifully, with a commanding presence and emotional range. John Boyega's performance is superb and fun to watch. Oscar Isaac is surprisingly playful as Poe Dameron. Adam Driver portrays rage and tragedy very well in his part. Despite his age, Harrison Ford inhabits the body of Han Solo like wearing an old jacket, and he's surprisingly endearing that way. Carrie Fischer still plays it tough as Leia. Lupita Nyong'o plays and alien, and it's interesting. With so many players going all at once, what matters the most is that all of them pull their weight so that every little face, gesture, and word contributes to their respective characterization, giving much more depth to them through the art of showing more than telling. John Williams' music score is notably different, but I believe it lends the movie its own unique style and feeling (which is much preferred over blaring the same tired themes over and over again like before).

Some might call this an unoriginal sellout, lacking in the boldness that the other films presented. However, it is a well-crafted crowd-pleaser. It entertains not only through its action, but also captivates with its characters. What I like about it the most is that, like many of my other favorites (including the original Star Wars), it shows more than it tells, to capture and let our own imaginations fill in the gaps. With my own imagination filling with the possibilities of what could happen next, my appetite is now whetted for the next episode, and any Star Wars fatigue I had is gone.

4.5/5
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:34 AM   #23013
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Help us CrazyBLUE, you are our only hope... Did you go to see Star Wars or something? Normally the ban hammer has been swung before I can blink an eye!

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Old 12-21-2015, 02:39 AM   #23014
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I was kind of hoping to never see remake back here again.

OT: I am listening to the score right now and Rey's Theme is probably my favorite piece from the film. I plan on seeing it again this weekend.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:21 AM   #23015
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I want to know the story he would have told.
Luke takes Han and Leia's kid to the zoo and meets a lizard character with a New Jersey accent who steps in poop. Luke is all CGI. He helps the kid with a book report about the history of economics before using his lightsaber on a sentient soda machine when it takes his money.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:40 AM   #23016
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Ha, at least three of the 7 people that gave it a 1 star are all the same troll

Hopefully they aren't like sand people, and won't be back in greater numbers... We're gonna need a bigger ban-hammer...

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Old 12-21-2015, 04:08 AM   #23017
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Saw this for the second time tonight in IMAX 3D. I thought the 3D was actually pretty spectacular and I was pleasantly surprised to see the AR open up fully during the falcon chase scene. I thought that only was going to happen at the 70mm showings!
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:15 AM   #23018
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I want to know the story he would have told.
Well he always said the story of Anakin and Luke ended with Episode 6 and there was nothing more to go on with. But before he sold Lucasfilm to Disney he worked on stories for Episodes 7-9 and it involved pretty much what we just watched in The Force Awakens. He basically came up with a new generation of siblings however they were much younger in his version, they were young teenagers like 13 or 14 years old. Disney didn't want to go down that same road and make the same mistake as Phantom Menace by having young kids in the lead roles so they altered it to what it is now with the main people in their early 20's, much like the original trilogy. (And I'm thankful for that)

Lucas even asked Mark Hamill in the early 80's if he would be interested in playing an Obi Wan Kenobi type character in Episode VII and train a new generation of Jedi. I also heard him talk decades ago about Luke having a daughter who was good and Han/Leia having a son who has joined the Dark Side and that would be the next trilogy...

So it's nothing new really...and to be honest, it was always going to be the story at least for EP 7 - 9...beyond that is anyone's guess...
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:27 AM   #23019
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Ha, at least three of the 7 people that gave it a 1 star are all the same troll

Hopefully they aren't like sand people, and won't be back in greater numbers... We're gonna need a bigger ban-hammer...

This is one instance where I say you should put the hammer down as many times as necessary to get the job done. Sadly, SW seems to bring out the stupid in some people, this is a blatant example here. Glad to see (I think?) that in some way the stories Lucas wanted to tell will continue on under the guidance of Abrams. Hoping for 2 new trilogies to join the 2 old ones, would make for quite a franchise of films.
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:57 AM   #23020
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