Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I don't think I will be buying any Daniel Radcliffe CDs, but his singing didn't make my ears bleed, either.

Its was the point we are all in this together.

[Show spoiler]

2012 SNL version

Another funnier version from NBC

Please note who has a cameo in it also.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Its was the point we are all in this together.

[Show spoiler] 2012 SNL version

Another funnier version from NBC

Please note who has a cameo in it also.

Lots of cameos in that video and one that I'd rather forget.

[JohnAV]

HBO Max's lack of Roku and Amazon support casts a big shadow over its launch day - BusinessInsider - 5/27/20

• HBO Max launched on Wednesday, but isn't available for Roku and Amazon, the two biggest streaming distribution platforms with a combined 70% market share.
• An HBO representative told Business Insider that "HBO Now will continue to exist on platforms where we don't yet have distribution deals in place."
• Regarding Roku and Amazon, AT&T CEO John Stankey told CNBC, "We must be doing something right if somebody believes we are now starting to be more in conflict with their business."

Hmmm, no longer best of friends.


Related - HBO Max Leaves AT&T at Odds With Amazon and Roku - WallStreetReview 5/27/20

Clashes between streaming services are becoming increasingly common, and in many ways are akin to the fights that traditional cable networks often have with cable and satellite operators. Walt Disney Co. and Amazon disagreed over terms regarding Disney+ only to reach an accord in time for that service’s launch last November.

At the center of the dispute between Amazon and WarnerMedia is that WarnerMedia wants Amazon to shuttle subscribers to the HBO Max platform as it does with Netflix Inc. and Disney+ customers. Amazon, however, wants to house the HBO Max content on Prime Videos Channels as it currently does with HBO.

Essentially, AT&T wants Amazon to serve as a toll road to HBO Max instead of providing housing for it. Such an arrangement would make it easier for AT&T to track consumption habits and other valuable data about its customers and establish a direct relationship.

The row with Roku, a connected-television platform that serves as a gateway to streaming services, is different. People familiar with the matter said Roku was still in a standstill with HBO Max over the terms of a carriage agreement.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

HBO Max's lack of Roku and Amazon support casts a big shadow over its launch day - BusinessInsider - 5/27/20

• HBO Max launched on Wednesday, but isn't available for Roku and Amazon, the two biggest streaming distribution platforms with a combined 70% market share.
• An HBO representative told Business Insider that "HBO Now will continue to exist on platforms where we don't yet have distribution deals in place."
• Regarding Roku and Amazon, AT&T CEO John Stankey told CNBC, "We must be doing something right if somebody believes we are now starting to be more in conflict with their business."

Hmmm, no longer best of friends.

I do love hearing AT&T spin their stupidity! Failing to have your new streaming service on the devices that have 70% of market share on your launch date is the opposite of "doing something right." Great marketing strategy there Mr. Stinkey; no presence on the two biggest streaming platforms, a master stroke of genius if ever there was one.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I do love hearing AT&T spin their stupidity! Failing to have your new streaming service on the devices that have 70% of market share on your launch date is the opposite of "doing something right." Great marketing strategy there Mr. Stinkey; no presence on the two biggest streaming platforms, a master stroke of genius if ever there was one.

How about approaching this from AT&T no longer see's Amazon Prime as a friendly competition?

They don't even want Amazon to house any of their content except the older HBO Now. Perhaps AT&T sees this a good time to strangle Amazon services?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

How about approaching this from AT&T no longer see Amazon Prime as a friendly competition?

They don't even want Amazon to house any of there content except the older HBO Now. Perhaps AT&T sees this a good time to strangle Amazon services?

Amazon must be nervous!

No, but seriously. This is Amazon we are talking about.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

How about approaching this from AT&T no longer see's Amazon Prime as a friendly competition?

They don't even want Amazon to house any of their content except the older HBO Now. Perhaps AT&T sees this a good time to strangle Amazon services?

Money makes for many a strange bedfellow.

And none of this AT&T/Amazon animosity explains away AT&T's failure to have a HBO Max presence on Roku devices.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Money makes for many a strange bedfellow.

And none of this AT&T/Amazon animosity explains away AT&T's failure to have a HBO Max presence on Roku devices.

As mention from WallStreetReview

The row with Roku, a connected-television platform that serves as a gateway to streaming services, is different. People familiar with the matter said Roku was still in a standstill with HBO Max over the terms of a carriage agreement.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

As mention from WallStreetReview

Still a marketing failure all the way around; launching a new streaming service that is absent from the two platforms that have a combined 70% market share is a blunder with a capital "B."

Also, I do not think that AT&T is in any position to hurt Amazon even if they were sworn mortal enemies.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Amazon must be nervous!

No, but seriously. This is Amazon we are talking about.

Yes the same ones that ticked Disney off, so that Blu-ray.com doesn't see upcoming Disney titles displayed. This is no longer access to HBO but Warner Media, with that comes like Disney the gradual retraction of Warner Media content from Amazon as with Netflix.

I mentioned that the studio owners were pulling back their content for their own services so nothing new here. We'll just watch the news and see how this fares.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Yes the same ones that ticked Disney off, so that Blu-ray.com doesn't see upcoming Disney titles displayed. This is no longer access to HBO but Warner Media, with that comes like Disney the gradual retraction of Warner Media content from Amazon as with Netflix.

I mentioned that the studio owners were pulling back their content for their own services so nothing new here.

Blu-ray.com most certainly reports about upcoming Disney releases; they just don't offer direct links to where you can pre-order them... as if finding a vendor for Disney pre-orders is any challenge.

I know that Onward is getting a 3D release in the U.K. on June 1st because blu-ray.com gave me that information and, as Amazon.uk is not a part of the feud with Disney, blu-ray.com even links me directly to Amazon.uk where I can pre-order it.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Onwar...lu-ray/265470/

Disney's feud with our domestic Amazon has in no way impeded the posting of news about their upcoming releases on blu-ray.com either for domestic releases or for foreign ones.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Yes the same ones that ticked Disney off, so that Blu-ray.com doesn't see upcoming Disney titles displayed. This is no longer access to HBO but Warner Media, with that comes like Disney the gradual retraction of Warner Media content from Amazon as with Netflix.

I mentioned that the studio owners were pulling back their content for their own services so nothing new here. We'll just watch the news and see how this fares.

Let me make a prediction. Warner Media/HBO and AT&T will be broken up within 5 years.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Let me make a prediction. Warner Media/HBO and AT&T will be broken up within 5 years.

Like Amazon.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Let me make a prediction. Warner Media/HBO and AT&T will be broken up within 5 years.

Your predictions break me up almost instantaneously.

And so does your just posted prediction, JohnAV.

[sapiendut]

Talking about Disney... no rumour about any new 4K catalogue titles being in the works/to be released?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Your predictions break me up almost instantaneously.

Let’s see.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Let’s see.

You want a video of me having a after you make one of your predictions?

I could oblige you, but I think that you will just have to take my word for it.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Talking about Disney... no rumour about any new 4K catalogue titles being in the works/to be released?

I just scanned the domestic release calendar through December and I did not see any Disney releases announced on any format, but these announcements are not always made public that far ahead. The upcoming release calendar is very incomplete and often inaccurate more than two months ahead.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...how=comingsoon

[alchav21]

With the Streaming Wars heating up, it seems like to me having a Studio in your corner will help in taking the punches better. You guys say Streaming is now, and with Content the strong will remain standing!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

With the Streaming Wars heating up, it seems like to me having a Studio in your corner will help in taking the punches better. You guys say Streaming is now, and with Content the strong will remain standing!

Having ever more subscription streaming services, each with one or more studios backing them, gives the consumer some interesting advantages. All of this competition pressures prices downward, or at least helps to keep them stagnant, and it makes it easy to play the competing services against each other. A person can bounce from one free, or low cost, introductory offer to another while also lowering their personal costs by sharing accounts.

I have never had so many subscription streaming options and I do not have to pay for any of them thanks to account sharing which is permitted by all of these services in one form or another.