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Old 02-16-2011, 09:15 PM   #2321
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sorry i'm a little n00bish when it comes to these classes and how they work.

in this example....

[Show spoiler]INFILTRATOR
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PRIMARY ABILITIES
Disguise
Infiltrators can disguise themselves as a member of the opposing faction.
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In addition to being disguised, Infiltrators are undetectable by Engineer Turrets, Sentry Drones and Medi-Droids.
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Perform melee attacks without breaking disguise. Stacks with previous abilities


to peform the stacked ability...i know you press left once...does that just activate the first ability and then you have to press it left again and it works or left 3 times for the ++? you use use this one...the first time the screen gives you that black around the edges as if your wearing a mask. when you do the again...it takes it away. did i deactivate my first level or activate my second?
You just press left once ,+ and ++ just upgrade your first ability
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:15 PM   #2322
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to peform the stacked ability...i know you press left once...does that just activate the first ability and then you have to press it left again and it works or left 3 times for the ++? you use use this one...the first time the screen gives you that black around the edges as if your wearing a mask. when you do the again...it takes it away. did i deactivate my first level or activate my second?
Great so we'll have teammates running around using only the melee so they don't break cover

But no it'll upgrade on its own so if you have + when you buy the ++ upgrade it makes it like + never existed, and it just replaces the + you'll still click the dpad it'll just be using the ++ features instead of the + hope that makes sense
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:17 PM   #2323
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Unbelievably this item is still up(10 mins to go) and has reached £86; are these buyers insane? No cover, no manual, nothing but a disc in a case and people are buying it for stupid money when in less than a week you can pick it up for less than £40!!

Madness.

I played the demo tonight, enjoyed it, I like the jet pack and was pleased to see my Move settings worked great too. I like the little touches that they had longer hair and beards to show the passage of time since the end of KZ2
Some people are prepared to pay extra just to get it early, some might consider it a collectors item
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:27 PM   #2324
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Some people are prepared to pay extra just to get it early, some might consider it a collectors item
Maybe you could summarize for me the story from killzone 2 so I go in knowing what's going on I've got to much going on to finish kz2 by next week

*never thought to look at the wiki however elongated the explanation is

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Old 02-16-2011, 09:34 PM   #2325
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Maybe you could summarize for me the story from killzone 2 so I go in knowing what's going on I've got to much going on to finish kz2 by next week

*never thought to look at the wiki however elongated the explanation is
The quick version

[Show spoiler]•The ISA invasion seems to go well, until a arch grid is activated in the city of Pyrrhus and most of the first wave convoy is destroyed.
•The ISA track the power source to a refinery in the barrens, during the assault Garza is mortally wounded and killed.
•The team then regroups at the command cruise, where the Helghast assault shortly after.
•In the assault Helghast Col. Radec kills both Evelyn (the scientist from KZ :L) and Col. Templar (main character in all past games). Radec also steals the arming codes for ISA nukes that were stolen in KZ :L.
•The cruiser is taken down (as is most of the invasion fleet), but Alpha escapes and the cruiser crashes into the power refinery, destroying the arch grid in the city.
•The ISA try to regroup inside the city and near Visari's palace, but Radec sets off a nuke in the city and most of the ISA forces on Helghan are destroyed,
•After this Alpha and the surviving invasion force assault the palace but take very heavy casualties.
•In the assault, Radec is defeated and kills himself afterwards.
•Alpha squad then finds Visari waiting for them, he tells Sev that the war is far from over and if they kill him the Helghast would remember him as a matyr and will fight with even more determination that ever.
•Rico who is still angered at the death of Templar and most of the ISA forces kills Visari.
•Worn down at all that has happened Sev leaves the palace and sees a massive Heghast fleet destroying what is left of the ISA invasion fleet.
•With the ISA invasion in shambles and with restrengthened Helghast still in possession of nukes, the war is far from over.
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:43 PM   #2326
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Great so we'll have teammates running around using only the melee so they don't break cover

But no it'll upgrade on its own so if you have + when you buy the ++ upgrade it makes it like + never existed, and it just replaces the + you'll still click the dpad it'll just be using the ++ features instead of the + hope that makes sense
thanks for clearing the issue up. i've been pushing left twice...i'm pretty sure i was running uncloaked the whole time. i just started getting used to the classes and yes i have a problem the cloaked guy who just sits then and then i walk by and get assassinated. its annoying and then the unlimited sprint.

i just wanted to get up to par so when i go online....cuz i've been gettin my ass handed to me with some of these crazy combos...and i just figured them out...sorta Black Ops has always interrupted my focus and i've fallen to far behind. now i wanna be ready for release. Helghast Edition is on its way!
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:44 PM   #2327
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The quick version

[Show spoiler]•The ISA invasion seems to go well, until a arch grid is activated in the city of Pyrrhus and most of the first wave convoy is destroyed.
•The ISA track the power source to a refinery in the barrens, during the assault Garza is mortally wounded and killed.
•The team then regroups at the command cruise, where the Helghast assault shortly after.
•In the assault Helghast Col. Radec kills both Evelyn (the scientist from KZ :L) and Col. Templar (main character in all past games). Radec also steals the arming codes for ISA nukes that were stolen in KZ :L.
•The cruiser is taken down (as is most of the invasion fleet), but Alpha escapes and the cruiser crashes into the power refinery, destroying the arch grid in the city.
•The ISA try to regroup inside the city and near Visari's palace, but Radec sets off a nuke in the city and most of the ISA forces on Helghan are destroyed,
•After this Alpha and the surviving invasion force assault the palace but take very heavy casualties.
•In the assault, Radec is defeated and kills himself afterwards.
•Alpha squad then finds Visari waiting for them, he tells Sev that the war is far from over and if they kill him the Helghast would remember him as a matyr and will fight with even more determination that ever.
•Rico who is still angered at the death of Templar and most of the ISA forces kills Visari.
•Worn down at all that has happened Sev leaves the palace and sees a massive Heghast fleet destroying what is left of the ISA invasion fleet.
•With the ISA invasion in shambles and with restrengthened Helghast still in possession of nukes, the war is far from over.
Helghast are awesome I hope they win
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:49 PM   #2328
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and yes i have a problem the cloaked guy who just sits then and then i walk by and get assassinated. its annoying and then the unlimited sprint.
lol I do that if I'm looking for the perfect shot but out of the corner see two guys close to me I wait for the first to go by get the back guy then go after the front
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:51 PM   #2329
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We'll see if your arms agree with you after 6 straight hours of gaming
Well, I was planning on getting the accessory for other games besides KZ3, and I was gonna mix the bag with both the accessory and DS3 but yeah, no 6-hour marathons for me. Hell, I already paid for it with a 5.5 hour Endurance race on Gran Tursimo 5 yesterday
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:01 PM   #2330
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Helghast are awesome I hope they win
Me too, the more I see Rico, the more I want the Helghast to decimate the ISA

They should make a counter-agent mode or spin off game where you are the Helgast
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:04 PM   #2331
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I used to have an awesome weblink i go to to read the whole storyline... i will try to find it later when i get home...

all in all, there are perks, and then some.

one thing i liked about BFBC2 is that most of the perks or benefits are balanced. (this was mentioned in an article via gamespots magazine cover on them)...

its fun having mortar fire, unless you're at the recieving end.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:13 PM   #2332
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lol I do that if I'm looking for the perfect shot but out of the corner see two guys close to me I wait for the first to go by get the back guy then go after the front
but thats how to roll...if you did the reverse and shoot the first guy as the come at you...the second guy should kill you unless he sux. your way is the proper way to take out 2 people by yourself. i'm cool with this. not cool if its the only way you get kills for the whole match is to camp cloaked and then kill. its a tactic. just one i'm not fond of.

when i first played the demo...i was doing decent with decent K/D....but then i took a break...played black ops with friends...and i know there on every night so i end up playing...i come back and play....and i'm getting destroyed by all this craziness. the diguese thing freaked me out the first time i saw it...i was like WTF? cross-talk from 3D or WTF? i still shot at it and killed him because it didn't look right...at that moment i realized...damn there are some crazy abilities and i have none. i was just getting guns. so i started a severe decline in k/d as everyone had ++ perks. and i had none. so as this game hits...no black ops for me.
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:22 AM   #2333
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I *really* liked the PSN trailer, and really wanted to get this game. I then found out Dragon Age 2 comes out 2 weeks later. I then played the Killzone 3 demo. Now I'll be getting KZ3 on day one, and DA2 whenever I'm ready for it.

I was afraid the jetpack was going to be "gimmicky" with poor controls. Totally not the case. They say there are ten to twenty other "set pieces" that top the jetpack.... My mouth is already agape and drooling with anticipation....
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i'm cool with this. not cool if its the only way you get kills for the whole match is to camp cloaked and then kill. its a tactic. just one i'm not fond of.
I think you might see allot of Melee tactician so they don't break cover, and ALLOT of cloaked snipers just using that silenced machine pistol that when combined with ++ won't break the cloak depending on how effective that gun is, that might be a crazy combo.
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I like how KZ3 is kind of simulating TF2 in it's class abilities. Everyone's going to have to start spy checking now.
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I like how KZ3 is kind of simulating TF2 in it's class abilities. Everyone's going to have to start spy checking now.
I dunno its pretty easy to spot when everyone on your team is running say north and then one guys running south or sideways or whatever

I'm just glad there are more unlocks and things to play for I had everything I wanted in kz2 within 2 weeks
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cloaked players always show up if you happen to move your crosshairs over them, I'm assuming that's the same in KZ3

To be fair, sitting in one spot isn't the best way to rack up kills in a game and it can get dull so I can't imagine we're going to see entire games with everyone cloaked and sitting in the same spot!

Spot and Mark can see cloaked players and I'm pretty sure the sentry bot and flying drone can too.
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So I work at a Sears store and we got our shipment of Killzone 3 discs in today but we can't buy or sell them until Tuesday!! The wait was bad enough before but now that they're right in front of me it's even worse!
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So I work at a Sears store and we got our shipment of Killzone 3 discs in today but we can't buy or sell them until Tuesday!! The wait was bad enough before but now that they're right in front of me it's even worse!
and they say war is hell!
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So I work at a Sears store and we got our shipment of Killzone 3 discs in today but we can't buy or sell them until Tuesday!! The wait was bad enough before but now that they're right in front of me it's even worse!
I know how you feel, i used to work in Gamestation and it was torture when a game you wanted would come into stock. Hundreds of copies sitting infront of you!Dont know if i could resist just taking a copy of KZ3 and making a sharp exit
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