Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Akibiyori]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I warned about this. Trial by social media. Utter bullshit. What next? No Christmas movies in case it offends Muslims? No 80’s slashers because a Black person kets killed first?

No one actually cares about this stuff, it’s just morons in corporations who bought wholesale into the notion that social media was revolutionary and actually represents broad opinion when it really doesn’t.

And then they do things on what someone thinks might happen rather than what actually would.

There are companies that have had people in situations the guy from The Flash is in right now and they simply ignored it and...nothing happened. Everyone moved on. These should be emphasized to all the dumb suits out there who lack spines.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

I have seen 8K TV with 8K content at a CES show. I have seen 8K TV showing upscaled 4K content at my local Best Buy. There is a real difference between the two. It's the TV OEMs trying to sell the latest and greatest with no available native content for the foreseeable future. As it stands, IMO 8K isn't even an evolutionary step-up. Just another money grab from the TV OEMs

I will not "upgrade" to an 8K TV unless I can perceive a definite and substantial improvement with the content that is actually available and that realistically comes down to how much does their upscaling improve 4K and HD content? Without any meaningful 8K content, the capability to watch it is rather pointless; I'm not buying a new 8K TV to watch stuff like this:

Kitten in 8K - RED Epic-W with Helium 8K S35 Sensor HDR - YouTube

And you are right: the first 4K TVs lacked all of the things that you listed making them pretty much obsolete very soon after their launch.

[bhampton]

Netfux is removing all the racism they can find.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...134107350.html

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...153917641.html



-Brian

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Netfux is removing all the racism they can find.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...134107350.html

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...153917641.html



-Brian

You put it perfectly in another thread:

Originally Posted by bhampton

Streaming sux ... if you want something it's best to get it while you can.

Deleting content does not remove racism; it just pretends that it doesn't exist.

[Lee A Stewart]

HBO Max Is Already Losing a Bunch of Live-Action DC Movies in July

Hot on the heels of HBO Max’s big debut and the announcement that Zack Snyder’s Justice League will hit the platform in 2021, it looks as though the new streamer is already losing a number of major DC movies. This isn’t something that’s happening months down the road, but rather on July 1st, roughly one month after the service first launched.

The news comes from ComicBook.com with the outlet confirming that a number of live-action DC films are temporarily being removed from HBO Max in July. Those titles include Justice League, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad, Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, and The Losers. So come July 1st, the only live-action DC films that will be left to watch are Aquaman, Shazam!, Joker, Green Lantern, and Supergirl. An HBO Max spokesperson told the outlet, “We have a collection of DC films that will rotate on the platform. We have a new batch coming in July and then another batch coming in August.”

When all of this first began, the surface level mentality was that all of the studios would just create streaming services of their own and get all of their films back. Perhaps that really is the endgame for everyone, but this rotating library can’t change until these licensing deals run their course. And some of them are quite long, like the Disney and Netflix deal, for example. That reportedly requires that every Disney film released between January 2016 and December 2018 would return to Netflix in 2026.

https://collider.com/dc-movies-leavi...max-july-2020/

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Netfux is removing all the racism they can find.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...134107350.html

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...153917641.html



-Brian

I think I am going to head downstairs and pop in Django Unchained on Blu-ray before they come and take it away. Oh wait, they can’t.

[Lee A Stewart]

[Steedeel]

Got fed up of all those found footage films over the last 20 years? Well, we are soon to have a avalanche of cheap, low risk movies similar to Unfriended and searching called ‘screenlife’. There are apparently 50 films of this type in production and Universal have signed up 5 of them already. These films utilise smartphone, tablet, laptop and desktop screens to tell a story.
Never a one to miss out on a social movement, it will of course have a ready made audience that understand this type of storytelling as they have been living it over the last 3 months (yawn).

What a waste of the 4K format.

No doubt we will soon be told this is the way forward. People sitting at their desktops, can’t wait!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Got fed up of all those found footage films over the last 20 years? Well, we are soon to have a avalanche of cheap, low risk movies similar to Unfriended and searching called ‘screenlife’. There are apparently 50 films of this type in production and Universal have signed up 5 of them already. These films utilise smartphone, tablet, laptop and desktop screens to tell a story.
Never a one to miss out on a social movement, it will of course have a ready made audience that understand this type of storytelling as they have been living it over the last 3 months (yawn).

What a waste of the 4K format.

No doubt we will soon be told this is the way forward. People sitting at their desktops, can’t wait!

Who will want to watch vertically framed content on their desktop? Who still has a desktop?

Sorry, but the HBO Max/ Gone With The Wind controversy is far more interesting than this latest incarnation of your persistent phone phobia.

[Lee A Stewart]

Fear not! Samsung has the answer!

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Got fed up of all those found footage films over the last 20 years? Well, we are soon to have a avalanche of cheap, low risk movies similar to Unfriended and searching called ‘screenlife’. There are apparently 50 films of this type in production and Universal have signed up 5 of them already. These films utilise smartphone, tablet, laptop and desktop screens to tell a story.
Never a one to miss out on a social movement, it will of course have a ready made audience that understand this type of storytelling as they have been living it over the last 3 months (yawn).

What a waste of the 4K format.

No doubt we will soon be told this is the way forward. People sitting at their desktops, can’t wait!

I actually enjoyed Unfriended and Searching. I don't see a problem with them because at least they are presented as a movie. I thought it was a clever concept. It's a difficult way to tell a story and I thought they did rather well. But as with everything else it is being overdone now.

I even enjoyed Unsane which if I hadn't been told it was shot on an iPhone I would have never known. As long as they preserve the cinematic presentation in all regards and present a compelling story I really don't care what technology was used. With that being said, I will never watch vertically framed content unless the decision to do so was a creative one that serves the story in some fundamental way.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Who will want to watch vertically framed content on their desktop? Who still has a desktop?

Sorry, but the HBO Max/ Gone With The Wind controversy is far more interesting than this latest incarnation of your persistent phone phobia.

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Fear not! Samsung has the answer!

No, this is not limited to smartphone screens. This is a film featuring all those devices and uses them to tell a story. Think Unfriended and Searching. No cameras, no Dolby Atmos, no close ups, just stories told through screens. Apparently it’s perfect for ‘our times’. Cheap and low risk financially and safe for actors as they can interact over screens without contact.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No, this is not limited to smartphone screens. This is a film featuring all those devices and uses them to tell a story. Think Unfriended and Searching. No cameras, no Dolby Atmos, no close ups, just stories told through screens. Apparently it’s perfect for ‘our times’. Cheap and low risk financially and safe for actors as they can interact over screens without contact.

I am intrigued by any movie made without the use of cameras; that must've been very challenging.

Dolby Atmos is not necessary to tell EVERY story nor are close-ups.

The safety of actors and film crews is kind of important and social distancing helps with that during a pandemic. It is a temporary precaution, not a fundamental permanent change to film making.

I read yesterday, but I didn't save the source, that some studios are contemplating the use of CGI to show scenes of intimacy . Movies are indeed a creative, and adaptive, endeavor.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Ender14

I actually enjoyed Unfriended and Searching. I don't see a problem with them because at least they are presented as a movie. I thought it was a clever concept. It's a difficult way to tell a story and I thought they did rather well. But as with everything else it is being overdone now.

I even enjoyed Unsane which if I hadn't been told it was shot on an iPhone I would have never known. As long as they preserve the cinematic presentation in all regards and present a compelling story I really don't care what technology was used. With that being said, I will never watch vertically framed content unless the decision to do so was a creative one that serves the story in some fundamental way.

Yes, you are on the right lines with what I am talking about. 50 films in production.

[alchav21]

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"Frankly my Dear, I don't give a Damn" I have this Movie in my Vudu Collection and it's still there. I have also been watching it on my IPTV Server.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by alchav21

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"Frankly my Dear, I don't give a Damn" I have this Movie in my Vudu Collection and it's still there. I have also been watching it on my IPTV Server.

Whew. I was worried you lost access to it.

Stream on

“Stream with me, if it’s just for today, maybe tomorrow the studios will take it away ...”

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I do not need a corporate nanny and I can handle the terrible risk of my possibly being offended.

I wish more people were like this because it sounds a lot of people have been offended by the mere fact that Warner wants to add a disclaimer to their own movie before showing it on their own streaming service.

Talk about easily triggered snowflakes, amirite?

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

You put it perfectly in another thread:
Deleting content does not remove racism; it just pretends that it doesn't exist.

You can't go extreme with earlier film works. Disney for example can edit some content that shows offensive terms or actions, or provide warning that historically based environments might be considered offensive to some.

If you censor history you are just mimicking other more restrictive cultures, and prohibiting people from learning from it, offensive or not.

In the below example your are actually trying to separate cultures.

Gone with the Wind' reignites debate as Hollywood wrestles with its history - CNN

"Gone with the Wind" remains the highest-grossing movie of all time when adjusted for inflation and won 10 Oscars, including the first ever for an African-American performer, supporting actress Hattie McDaniel.

The 1939 movie -- adapted from Margaret Mitchell's bestselling novel set during the Civil War -- also contains numerous problematic elements that haven't aged well, from stereotyped depictions of African Americans to the debate over whether the staircase scene between Rhett and Scarlett, which concludes off screen, was a case of marital rape.

"Gone with the Wind" is the latest movie to face renewed concerns about its exposure in the 21st century, as studios mine their libraries to stock the shelves of new streaming services. The controversy over that erupted again this week, as HBO Max, the new service from CNN parent WarnerMedia, announced that it was temporarily pulling the movie from its rotation.

The film will return, a spokesperson said, with "a discussion of its historical context" and denunciation of its racially charged aspects. The movie itself won't be altered.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by alchav21

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"Frankly my Dear, I don't give a Damn" I have this Movie in my Vudu Collection and it's still there. I have also been watching it on my IPTV Server.

What happens if it's removed?

[bhampton]

What happened to the simple

The Views and Opinions Expressed in ....

This plan where they are going to denounce parts of the movie just seems so very wrong.