Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995)

[Rich1983]

Originally Posted by leem6453

I've watched it. It's definitely open matte, which is annoying because the top of screen is obviously wasted space. It really distracts from the movie too.

I don't think it distracts from the movie.

[Oblivion138]

Originally Posted by MykeHavoc

If you enjoy Halloween 4-6, then you will likely not have issue with the open-matte version of H20.

Except that those films were framed for 1.85, and H20 was framed for 2.35.

It may surprise some people, but films have directors and cinematographers for a reason. They decide what goes in the frame and what doesn't. I like Citizen Kane in 1.33:1, but I don't want to watch Full Metal Jacket that way just because Kubrick shot it full frame. It was framed for 1.85, and that's how it should be watched. The framing looks loose and sloppy in 1.33. Same goes for H20, in my book.

It's not a question of liking or disliking a certain aspect ratio...it's a question of caring or not caring about the filmmakers' intent. So I don't see how your example makes sense. The people who made H4-H6 framed their films for 1.85:1. Steve Miner didn't. It's an invalid comparison. I like a lot of films in 1:85...if they were shot for 1.85. That doesn't mean I like a movie being misframed at 1.78.

Originally Posted by Rich1983

I don't think it distracts from the movie.

And that works for you...but others might not have the same experience, so it's best that they give this matter some thought before spending their money. Especially when there's a viable Region A option in 2.35:1 available for purchase. Which there is.

[B Z]

So this film is open matte, as in nothing is cropped out, its only uncropped, revealing more than the original aspect ratio intended?

Can anyone confirm this for all Echo Bridge releases? I noticed all the Hellraiser films from Echo Bridge are this aspect ratio. Are they all open matte? I hate that they're not the intended aspect ratio but I would be fine with it being uncropped, as long as I'm not losing any picture.

[The Phantom Goat]

So I've got the canadian triple pack, but I also picked up the Echo Bridge version of Resurrection for the extras. Is there any reason to pick up Echo Bridge's Curse or H2O?

And if there is, does the double feature look any different than the invidual releases?

[MykeHavoc]

Originally Posted by B Z

So this film is open matte, as in nothing is cropped out, its only uncropped, revealing more than the original aspect ratio intended?

Can anyone confirm this for all Echo Bridge releases? I noticed all the Hellraiser films from Echo Bridge are this aspect ratio. Are they all open matte? I hate that they're not the intended aspect ratio but I would be fine with it being uncropped, as long as I'm not losing any picture.

All the Hellraisers were shot that way anyway.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by B Z

So this film is open matte, as in nothing is cropped out, its only uncropped, revealing more than the original aspect ratio intended?

Can anyone confirm this for all Echo Bridge releases? I noticed all the Hellraiser films from Echo Bridge are this aspect ratio. Are they all open matte? I hate that they're not the intended aspect ratio but I would be fine with it being uncropped, as long as I'm not losing any picture.

You're still not seeing the intended frame, that's what's important.

[Nailwraps]

When it comes to Echo Bridge, 1.78:1 releases of 1.85:1 films are either cropped slightly to the left and right or open-matte slightly to the top and bottom (it's definitely probably the latter) and 1.78:1 releases of 2.35:1 films are either cropped or open-matte. Luckily some of their recent 2.35:1 film releases like Halloween Resurrection have retained the original ratio. FYI, if you want H20 in it's OAR, go for the Canadian triple pack. I know I did!

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by Rich1983

I don't think it distracts from the movie.

And obviously you know more about scene compostion and artistic intent than the films director, and DP, and Cinematographer

[OrlandoEastwood]

Like it's real easy to tell the difference when a movie is cropped or open matted from 1.85 to 1.78?

[rockds]

OK... so I've been flipping backward and forward over which is the best version to get and there's just so many different opinions that I can't make up my mind. So, if you can dumb it down for me... which is the best version (that will also play on my region B player) to get. I've read that the French Studio Canal release has forced subtitles... which really sucks, so I won't be getting that one, so whats the next best release.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

[Blu Myers]

Originally Posted by rockds

OK... so I've been flipping backward and forward over which is the best version to get and there's just so many different opinions that I can't make up my mind. So, if you can dumb it down for me... which is the best version (that will also play on my region B player) to get. I've read that the French Studio Canal release has forced subtitles... which really sucks, so I won't be getting that one, so whats the next best release.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

I own the alliance triple pack and Echo Bridge release and I think both are safe bets. I prefer the Echo Bridge because it is a separate release with its own case and cover art. I'm not sure if they are region free though.

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by rockds

OK... so I've been flipping backward and forward over which is the best version to get and there's just so many different opinions that I can't make up my mind. So, if you can dumb it down for me... which is the best version (that will also play on my region B player) to get. I've read that the French Studio Canal release has forced subtitles... which really sucks, so I won't be getting that one, so whats the next best release.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

I would wait and see if the upcoming german disc (oct 1st) also has forced subs (probably not, usually just france that apply that) and look like it will be the same disc otherwise so clearly better than all others. And it's regionfree or region B

[rockds]

Originally Posted by wesslan

I would wait and see if the upcoming german disc (oct 1st) also has forced subs (probably not, usually just france that apply that) and look like it will be the same disc otherwise so clearly better than all others. And it's regionfree or region B

Thanks a million for the reply mate Fingers crossed then for the German release

[rockds]

I just had a quick search for info on the German release, but couldn't find anything. Is it definitely being released?

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by rockds

I just had a quick search for info on the German release, but couldn't find anything. Is it definitely being released?

I must have wrong info since I can't either find anything on Curse, sorry. Seems all but Curse is released so far in germany So french is still best. Wonder if you can move the forced subs out of the picture if you have that feature on you player, anyone tried?

[Goldensuitcase]

Is the Canadian triple-pack the way to go with this, Halloween H20 and part 8?

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by Goldensuitcase

Is the Canadian triple-pack the way to go with this, Halloween H20 and part 8?

Forget canada

Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (1998)
CA - AVC 17799 kbps 1080i 2.35:1, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4202 kbps 24-bit, BD25, no eng subs (Region A) Best AQ
US - AVC 29999 kbps 1080p 1.78:1, DTS-HD MA 2.0 1637 16-bit, BD25 (Region free)
ES - AVC 22809 kbps 1080p 2.35:1 24fps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 1875 kbps 16-bit, BD25 (Region B)
FR/DE - AVC 31800 kbps 1080p 2.35:1, DTS-HD MA 5.1 1561 kbps 16-bit, BD50 (Region B) Best PQ

For Resurrection I haven't got all specifications yet. maybe someone in here have the US or canadian disc and can share?

Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
CA - AVC 2.35:1, DTS-HD MA 5.1, BD25, no eng subs
US - AVC 2.35:1, DTS-HD MA 5.1, BD25
FR - AVC 32200 kbps 2.35:1; DTS-HD MA 5.1 806 kbps 16-bit, BD25, forced french subs (Region B)

[rockds]

Originally Posted by wesslan

I must have wrong info since I can't either find anything on Curse, sorry. Seems all but Curse is released so far in germany So french is still best. Wonder if you can move the forced subs out of the picture if you have that feature on you player, anyone tried?

Ah nuts The search continues It would be great if we can remove the forced subs, but I don't think this is possible... however, I could be wrong and hope I am.

[Goldensuitcase]

Originally Posted by wesslan

Forget canada

Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (1998)
CA - AVC 17799 kbps 1080i 2.35:1, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4202 kbps 24-bit, BD25, no eng subs (Region A) Best AQ
US - AVC 29999 kbps 1080p 1.78:1, DTS-HD MA 2.0 1637 16-bit, BD25 (Region free)
ES - AVC 22809 kbps 1080p 2.35:1 24fps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 1875 kbps 16-bit, BD25 (Region B)
FR/DE - AVC 31800 kbps 1080p 2.35:1, DTS-HD MA 5.1 1561 kbps 16-bit, BD50 (Region B) Best PQ

For Resurrection I haven't got all specifications yet. maybe someone in here have the US or canadian disc and can share?

Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
CA - AVC 2.35:1, DTS-HD MA 5.1, BD25, no eng subs
US - AVC 2.35:1, DTS-HD MA 5.1, BD25
FR - AVC 32200 kbps 2.35:1; DTS-HD MA 5.1 806 kbps 16-bit, BD25, forced french subs (Region B)

But those are Region B blocked, right?

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by rockds

Ah nuts The search continues It would be great if we can remove the forced subs, but I don't think this is possible... however, I could be wrong and hope I am.

You can remove them if you use htpc/pc drive for your playback with anydvd hd but know no other method. Although my Oppo 93 can move subtitles around so I'm hoping one can lower them out of the picture atleast. Then I would buy these discs for sure since I have regionfree player.