Do the Right Thing 4K UHD (1989)

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by chucktatum

But I feel like they should've already hinted at DtRT by this point...

Kind of where I’m at on the point. It could happen but they’ve been getting a lot better about announcing their exclusive stuff around the same time the general release is announced, which helps to make a better informed buying decision.

[spf781]

Man, this looked fantastic!

[Brian81]

Any stores carrying this outside of Target and its SteelBook?

[stratford]

Originally Posted by postmodel

The amount of people across various Facebook groups that still buy only dvd is mind boggling. And it seems to be way more than we realize.

postmodel I'd love to know how many of these ludites have TVs newer than 5 years. Unfortunatly a lot of perfectly good TV shows that are broadcast in HD on get sold in obsolete formats

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by stratford

postmodel I'd love to know how many of these ludites have TVs newer than 5 years. Unfortunatly a lot of perfectly good TV shows that are broadcast in HD on get sold in obsolete formats

I bet several have 4K TVs, but DVD is "good enough".

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I bet several have 4K TVs, but DVD is "good enough".

They aren't...doing the right thing.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I bet several have 4K TVs, but DVD is "good enough".

Or some think they are watching it 4K because, after all, they have a 4K TV!

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Or some think they are watching it 4K because, after all, they have a 4K TV!

I literally think it’s this and, therefore, they should just drop the bomb.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Or some think they are watching it 4K because, after all, they have a 4K TV!

Is it any wonder then they are happy just to have the limited amount of film's offered by streaming services.

Oh gee, there's nothing I want to watch. Remember when we could go out and rent and buy almost anything we wanted? Nope, don't remember that.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Or some think they are watching it 4K because, after all, they have a 4K TV!

I sold TVs for many years and this is the #1 assumption that people have. This was back in the HD age but the exact same thing applies to 4K. I'm not knocking them, I'm not belittling them, they just don't know any different and are perfickly happy with what they have. And yesh, this is also why streaming has taken over.

[Warm Gun]

Yeah. When I first started ripping my 4K discs late last year and excitedly told my brother how I flashed my Blu-ray drive, he said, "I thought Blu-ray was 4K." Then again, he never uses discs.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I sold TVs for many years and this is the #1 assumption that people have. This was back in the HD age but the exact same thing applies to 4K. I'm not knocking them, I'm not belittling them, they just don't know any different and are perfickly happy with what they have. And yesh, this is also why streaming has taken over.

What I can’t fathom is how even the most ignorant among them can’t see the clear difference between, say, streaming THE OFFICE and watching its comparatively dull and murky DVDs. Even if they’re not A/B-ing movies, I would think watching streaming shows all the time, then throwing in the occasional DVD and watching everything look like the life has been sucked out of it, would start the masses wondering, but no. Somehow, maddeningly, impossibly, they just don’t connect the dots.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Yeah. When I first started ripping my 4K discs late last year and excitedly told my brother how I flashed my Blu-ray drive, he said, "I thought Blu-ray was 4K." Then again, he never uses discs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSD-...ature=youtu.be

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

What I can’t fathom is how even the most ignorant among them can’t see the clear difference between, say, streaming THE OFFICE and watching its comparatively dull and murky DVDs. Even if they’re not A/B-ing movies, I would think watching streaming shows all the time, then throwing in the occasional DVD and watching everything look like the life has been sucked out of it, would start the masses wondering, but no. Somehow, maddeningly, impossibly, they just don’t connect the dots.

People just have different priorities, they simply want to watch whatever it is and don't give a fook about the quality of it, or should I say don't pay attention like we do. It's all vastly disposable to them, something to veg out with at the end of a day rather than pay attention to.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

People just have different priorities, they simply want to watch whatever it is and don't give a fook about the quality of it, or should I say don't pay attention like we do. It's all vastly disposable to them, something to veg out with at the end of a day rather than pay attention to.

But you said their assumption is that their TV magically makes everything 4K. Now you’re saying they don’t even care if things are in 4K or what that even really means. It can’t be both. Despite the fact that the evidence to the contrary is right in front of their faces, I still think it’s the former. It’s some kind of placebo effect where they perceive DVD to look better in their minds’ eyes because their TV is supposed to be a magic wand.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

People just have different priorities, they simply want to watch whatever it is and don't give a fook about the quality of it, or should I say don't pay attention like we do. It's all vastly disposable to them, something to veg out with at the end of a day rather than pay attention to.

See I'd accept that conclusion, if it wasn't for back in ye old 20th century that significantly more people did give time and money towards quality concerning music and films. Who I'm sure also had far more pressing priorities.

No it seems to me this is all symptomatic of a culture of mediocrity, that vaules stuff based on it's convince.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

But you said their assumption is that their TV magically makes everything 4K. Now you’re saying they don’t even care if things are in 4K or what that even really means. It can’t be both. Despite the fact that the evidence to the contrary is right in front of their faces, I still think it’s the former. It’s some kind of placebo effect where they perceive DVD to look better in their minds’ eyes because their TV is supposed to be a magic wand.

It's amazing what people can convince themselves of is the point. If they think they're getting HD or 4K then it means they don't have to pay it any more attention than that because they don't know any different. People like to have all the buzz words lined up when they buy TVs, hence these "veg out" types having 4K TVs in the first place, but they literally don't have a clue what it is they're buying.

I've said this before but the first two questions people used to aks were "is this a smart TV?" and then "what is a smart TV?", i.e. they had no idea what it was but they knew they had to have it, same goes for 4K. That's what we're up against, and have been for decades; people who actually care about video quality are few and far between. And again, I can't blame or shame the regulars because they'll have other things that interest them.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

See I'd accept that conclusion, if it wasn't for back in ye old 20th century that significantly more people did give time and money towards quality concerning music and films. Who I'm sure also had far more pressing priorities.

No it seems to me this is all symptomatic of a culture of mediocrity, that vaules stuff based on it's convince.

Did they tho? VHS was the predominant home video format in the late 20th century and its quality was shite, people spent as much time/money as they did on it because there were no alternatives. And by "people" I mean the sort of people I was describing above, not us video junkies who were well into Laserdisc by that point, which incidentally was a lame duck in the UK because said people didn't give a fook. I'm still amazed, literally amazed, that DVD took off over here as it did.

But as consuming movies has become ever more ephemeral it just plays into that "film nerd" stereotype if people actually, like, buy them and stuff. They really do have better things to be doing than owning a shelf full of movies, buying a great TV to play them on and yakking about them on forums. That's just how it is.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Did they tho? VHS was the predominant home video format in the late 20th century and its quality was shite, people spent as much time/money as they did on it because there were no alternatives. And by "people" I mean the sort of people I was describing above, not us video junkies who were well into Laserdisc by that point, which incidentally was a lame duck in the UK because said people didn't give a fook. I'm still amazed, literally amazed, that DVD took off over here as it did.

But as consuming movies has become ever more ephemeral it just plays into that "film nerd" stereotype if people actually, like, buy them and stuff. They really do have better things to be doing than owning a shelf full of movies, buying a great TV to play them on and yakking about them on forums. That's just how it is.

Correct. But they still spent time and money on it, and CD players ect. I'd also like to hear you expand on your amazement of DvDs adoption?

Back to the yak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rihu...ature=youtu.be

[Geoff D]

Again: there was no mainstream alternative to VHS, and even statellite TV with a gazillion movie channels only came along fairly late in the millennium. People still wanted to WATCH movies, then and now, and VHS was the only game in town for the average Joe/Jane. Quality was never the concern for them, and it still isn't. The difference being that nowadays they can watch whatever without having to buy a silly physical copy at all.

Re: DVD, the UK public were/are hardcore technophobes. This I know from working in electrical retail for the best part of 15 years, I never thought people would care enough about a higher quality format to usurp VHS...but then it was never about the higher quality of it for them, it was purely about convenience for the average peoples. Smaller form factor, not having to rewind, not having the tape get wrecked in a player, subtitles and alternative languages, pretty much everything apart from the quality and THAT, my friends, is why BD and UHD have never and will never win the hearts of the public: they're a movie on a shiny 5" disc so what else do they do, convenience-wise, that's so different from DVD?