The Apartment 4K UHD (1960)

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by cupboy

because we were both on the subject of pre-orders or shipments? I can unquote you if you'd like. Actually i already did.

k

[urbo73]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

k

You handled things like a man!

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by urbo73

You handled things like a man!

Good, that was my last test in the new version of the Turing test. I am not a machine, I’m a human being!

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Good, that was my last test in the new version of the Turing test. I am not a machine, I’m a human being!

[yoloswegmaster420]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

k

Wrong thread. This belong here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=342265

[chewbabka]

It is very possible that that the improved clarity, delineation, and depth actually alter the mind's perception of their superiority, but I am simply reporting what I saw on my system. Fluidity is unquestionably superior too, so if you have a larger screen expect the 4K Blu-ray to outperform the Blu-ray again.

What does this mean?

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by dylrichard02

I don’t see anything. What’s here?

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

I don’t see anything. What’s here?

[Show spoiler]it's an image of a recaptcha

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by dylrichard02

[Show spoiler]it's an image of a recaptcha

Sounds like a trick to me.

[Show spoiler]I was playing along with the joke.

[MifuneFan]

AI vs. AI. Two chatbots talking to each other - YouTube

[Brian81]

Originally Posted by ThePhantom

I'm just confused as to why Kino would even bother issuing the new standalone Blu-ray if it's just using the old MGM master. You have a new 4K master, why wouldn't they use that?!

I can sort of understand just throwing an old Blu into the new 4K UHD combo pack, but still...

So confused here.

Has anyone contacted Kino? Is this an Alfredo Garcia situation where it was supposed to be a remaster but wasn't?

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

AI vs. AI. Two chatbots talking to each other - YouTube

Mom! Dad!

[Captain.Monkey]

So hows the new transfer?

[professorwho]

Blah-ray Audio Analysis

Kino Lorber has sourced this mono track from the 1989 LaserDisc. I applaud them for doing so, but as always I would have liked a new audio transfer - one even less manipulated than the LaserDisc.

Kino Lorber have indiscriminately applied what appears to be automatic declicking to the entire film, so while the infrequent ticks and pops on the LD track are now gone, so too are some sound effects. At 50:10 (UHD timecode - the office party scene), Jack Lemmon says to Shirley MacLaine, "...You me and the bowler. We'll stroll down Fifth Avenue, sort of break it in" and taps his hat. The sound of the tap is now missing, though it's still present in the 5.1. At 1:20:08, Lemmon says "I hate to disturb you, but something came up that's rather important." The "disturb you, but something" bit is echoey, as if it's double-tracked, but it's fine on the actual LaserDisc. At 1:47:14, about a second of Jack Lemmon singing while making pasta is missing on the LD track. The UHD fills this in with some looped background noise from elsewhere in the scene instead of using the 5.1 centre channel or the ~2008 NRed mono (as Kino Lorber did for other short segments missing on the LD). Some footsteps, subtle vocal noises, and a few high notes in the score are also attenuated throughout the film.

I spent very little time actually searching for errors, so there are bound to be more.

There are signs of unnecessary hum removal, but this isn't audible. The track is strangely quiet - I'm not sure why Kino Lorber didn't normalise it to at least match the 5.1. It's actually 2 dB quieter than a bit-perfect capture of the LD would be.

Anyway, it sounds fine. None of these issues would be noticed by the average person watching the disc in real-time.

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by Captain.Monkey

So hows the new transfer?

This is my first time watching The Apartment, shameful I know. But I thought the PQ and AQ were great. The movie is excellent too!

[teddyballgame]

Comparison now available at Caps-a-holic

[tama]

Looks like a clear upgrade to me. A bit more difference then I expected actually.

[dylrichard02]

Still very pleased with the Arrow BD. Maybe I'll get this in a Kino sale down the line.

The boosted contrast crushes some details in with the blacks it seems;
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...3&l=0&i=8&go=1
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...5&l=0&i=6&go=1

[leocan]

Originally Posted by dylrichard02

Still very pleased with the Arrow BD. Maybe I'll get this in a Kino sale down the line.

The boosted contrast crushes some details in with the blacks it seems;
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...3&l=0&i=8&go=1
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...5&l=0&i=6&go=1

The second one looks to me like DNR was applied.

[Matt89]

This really does look fantastic in motion, especially close-ups. Razor sharp image. Perhaps a bit of black crush, but it really does look great. Still keeping my Arrow LE for all the swag and extras, but this was a bigger upgrade than I was expecting.

~Matt