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Old 01-23-2023, 02:54 AM   #221
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Can anyone who has this comment on the picture quality? Robert Harris’s review scared me off until I find out more.
What's confusing me though is, is it the UHD that's problematic or the new included BD? There seems to be mixed signals going on between RAH's review and HDD's review.....unless I'm just misunderstanding.
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Old 01-23-2023, 03:20 AM   #222
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What's confusing me though is, is it the UHD that's problematic or the new included BD? There seems to be mixed signals going on between RAH's review and HDD's review.....unless I'm just misunderstanding.
the 4K is great, the remastered BD is problematic though still an improvement over the old BD

Harris is an idiot in this review
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Old 01-23-2023, 03:33 AM   #223
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the 4K is great, the remastered BD is problematic though still an improvement over the old BD

Harris is an idiot in this review
That's disappointing. Doubtful it will be corrected either.
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Old 01-23-2023, 03:54 AM   #224
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That's disappointing. Doubtful it will be corrected either.
likely yet another of many sloppy SDR conversions
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Old 01-23-2023, 05:02 AM   #225
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the 4K is great
I can’t imagine it ever looking better than this UHD transfer.
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Old 01-23-2023, 09:15 AM   #226
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Watched it last night and it looked very good. I just love 70'era films within NYC, that grit the city had back then. Mono track sounded fine, was wondering if it's the OG and not a fold down of the 5.1
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Old 01-23-2023, 12:50 PM   #227
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Watched it last night and it looked very good. I just love 70'era films within NYC, that grit the city had back then. Mono track sounded fine, was wondering if it's the OG and not a fold down of the 5.1
HDD states it's not a downmix
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Old 01-23-2023, 03:01 PM   #228
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HDD states it's not a downmix
I'm pretty sure that it's not a downmix either.

1) I did confirm that it's mono (the L and R channels are not identical, but very close). It would likely be stereo, if a downmix.
2) I compared the 2.0 and 5.1 tracks, at a few spots, and they definitely sounded quite a bit different to me.
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Old 01-23-2023, 03:09 PM   #229
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It's definitely NOT a down mix.

The 5.1 is crap. Like KL's PELHAM this seems like it's some recently created 5.1 track (I'd hesitate to even call it a "remix" per se) and it's no different than someone hitting "all channel stereo" on their AVR with dialogue coming out of every speaker. Over amplified and pretty much useless.

It's too bad Paramount didn't create a 5.1 track for the movie back in the DVD era. They did a lot of those back then and many were pretty effectively done -- but DEATH WISH wasn't one of those, and sounds like it.

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It's definitely NOT a down mix.

The 5.1 is crap. Like KL's PELHAM this seems like it's some recently created 5.1 track (I'd hesitate to even call it a "remix" per se) and it's no different than someone hitting "all channel stereo" on their AVR with dialogue coming out of every speaker. Over amplified and pretty much useless.

It's too bad Paramount didn't create a 5.1 track for the movie back in the DVD era. They did a lot of those back then and many were pretty effectively done -- but DEATH WISH wasn't one of those, and sounds like it.
Why did they even bother making the 5.1…?
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Why did they even bother making the 5.1…?
Because more channels makes it betterer, duh!
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What's confusing me though is, is it the UHD that's problematic or the new included BD? There seems to be mixed signals going on between RAH's review and HDD's review.....unless I'm just misunderstanding.
It's the 4K he has issues with- which he said doesn't look substantially better than the Blu-ray.
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Old 01-23-2023, 08:10 PM   #233
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the 4K is great, the remastered BD is problematic though still an improvement over the old BD

Harris is an idiot in this review
I'm pretty sure that Harris was complaining about the 4K not the new Blu-ray included. I haven't seen it yet (I was waiting for more reviews) so can't comment on how accurate Harris' take is.
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Amazon.com says I'll be getting mine on its release day (Tuesday).
Just got a delayed shipment order from Amazon. Coming on 2/6 instead of release day.
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Just got a delayed shipment order from Amazon. Coming on 2/6 instead of release day.

Why didnīt you order it from WowHD?

My disc is already on the way to Germany.
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Old 01-23-2023, 09:50 PM   #237
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5 is here

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Why didnīt you order it from WowHD?

My disc is already on the way to Germany.
Amazon is over 99% reliable for release day delivery for me. Their changing the expected delivery date later was shocking.
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Amazon is over 99% reliable for release day delivery for me. Their changing the expected delivery date later was shocking.

But not when it comes to Kino Lorber titles.
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But not when it comes to Kino Lorber titles.
After the first couple KL I got late from Amazon I switched to getting them from DiabolikDVD. I still get Scream/Shout from Amazon unless it’s a steelbook.
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