Cinderella 4K UHD (1950)

[infiniteCR]

I understand your point and am familiar with the nonsense exclusivity they've shown in the past. However, there's something pretty different in the implication on how they are advertising this one that a few of us are picking up on. I've never seen them so heavily imply format exclusivity in previous editions.

Of course I won't be too surprised if somehow it's just this edition that's exclusive.

[gwfb5]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

I understand your point and am familiar with the nonsense exclusivity they've shown in the past. However, there's something pretty different in the implication on how they are advertising this one that a few of us are picking up on. I've never seen them so heavily imply format exclusivity in previous editions.

Of course I won't be too surprised if somehow it's just this edition that's exclusive.

Here's an example of the term "exclusive format" being used.

[Hydra Spectre]

Originally Posted by gwfb5

Just to add to the "club exclusive format" discussion, so we all understand what it means.

Just a few examples.

Wide retail release.


DMC exclusive format.


This isn't including exclusives where the only difference is the cover art or the inclusion of a slipcover when the wide release lacks one.
(Though some of the above DMC exclusives above do have exclusive slipcovers &/or cover art, but that's not the only thing that differentiates them from their wide release counterparts. )

The following are also DMC exclusive format BD + DVD releases:

[Hardback247]

I didn't even notice the "DVD" part of the cover before I pre-ordered it.

[kevin87]

Originally Posted by infiniteCR

I understand your point and am familiar with the nonsense exclusivity they've shown in the past. However, there's something pretty different in the implication on how they are advertising this one that a few of us are picking up on. I've never seen them so heavily imply format exclusivity in previous editions.

Of course I won't be too surprised if somehow it's just this edition that's exclusive.

If it was a real exclusive, they'd have put the ugly yellow banner around it and say it's exclusive on the artwork... which is why I'm not totally sold on Strange World being a full exclusive yet. I've seen "format exclusive" in the mailers, and I searched my emails (because I don't delete much...) and they say it for just about everything (assuming these "web versions" work for everybody else). I'm sure they have more but I'm not going back further lol

https://thedisneymovieclub.com/vemai...101012884.aspx
https://thedisneymovieclub.com/vemai...101013031.aspx
https://thedisneymovieclub.com/vemai...101013042.aspx
https://thedisneymovieclub.com/vemai...101013114.aspx
https://thedisneymovieclub.com/vemai...101013118.aspx

[ilenewoodsfan99]

Gonna finally join the Disney movie club just for Cinderella! Anyone have a link for the pre-order? Thanksgiving you ahead of time!

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by ilenewoodsfan99

Gonna finally join the Disney movie club just for Cinderella! Anyone have a link for the pre-order? Thanksgiving you ahead of time!

If it's just for Cinderella then it might be worth waiting to make sure it's not a wide 4k release.


However, if you want classic Walt Disney films like "Treasure Island," "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea," "The Parent Trap," "The Love Bug," "The Black Cauldron," and "The Three Caballeros/Saludos Amigos" (two of the most famous Donald Duck feature length films) on Blu-ray, then it would be worth going through the buy at full price commitment stage and monthly member titles that you either decline or auto purchase if you do nothing. Some of their biggest deep titles are only available through the Club.



There is a Disney Movie Club thread on the Blu-ray section of the forum with details about which codes to use, etc. to sign up.


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=221740

[ilenewoodsfan99]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

If it's just for Cinderella then it might be worth waiting to make sure it's not a wide 4k release.


However, if you want classic Walt Disney films like "Treasure Island," "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea," "The Parent Trap," "The Love Bug," "The Black Cauldron," and "The Three Caballeros/Saludos Amigos" (two of the most famous Donald Duck feature length films) on Blu-ray, then it would be worth going through the buy at full price commitment stage and monthly member titles that you either decline or auto purchase if you do nothing. Some of their biggest deep titles are only available through the Club.



There is a Disney Movie Club thread on the Blu-ray section of the forum with details about which codes to use, etc. to sign up.


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=221740

Oh, I totally forgot about The Three Caballeros and a few others. I'm definitely joining!

[TJake133]

This is very unexpected. With the Mickey shorts collections coming as well and hopefully some more live action classics (That Darn Cat and So Dear to my Heart have been rumored for all of last year) it will be interesting to see what they do this year for the anniversary.

I’m curious to see if they go the route with Black Cauldron and Sword in the Stone which got surprisingly good 4K transfers for Disney plus and iTunes. Maybe they’ll even release these on disc (Halloween month exclusives?)

While expectations are low, just maybe this is an opportunity to appeal more to purists and artists and correct their botched “restored and remastered” prints from the BD era and release something closer to a “preserved and cleaned” 4K negative print. Cauldron and Sword (latter raising the aspect ratio question) are pretty close! If Cinderella looks anything like that it could be a massive upgrade from the pink carpet and blue dress scrubbing all linework disaster.

Only reason I’m a bit hopeful is the movie club outlet, which has managed to release uncensored films like Saludos Amigos (again, besides the Make Mine Music disaster) and the Mickey shorts collection looking pretty decent.
After all, corporate exhausted all other outlets in marketing their classics on DVD, BD etc and now that the vault is no longer an effective incentive due to Disney plus, the only reason people might buy yet another release is if it actually has a more premium feeling with decent cover artwork, and a new 4K sourced print that’s not just an upscale of the disastrous restoration work. The set seems to also include a DVD so I wonder if they just cheaply combine the diamond/signature discs with an upscale on UHD or if they reprint all of them from a new true 4K scan.

If they continue this deep dive into the vault maybe the other classics will follow.

[TJake133]

Originally Posted by gwfb5

Okay, but why include the Disney Second Screen Experience?
They stopped including those Second Screen features shortly after they started including them.
Add them to the long list of other short lived gimmicks that never took off I guess. (Disney Intermission and the Virtual Vault immediately come to mind )

Assuming it's not a mistake, would that feature even work now?
I never tried it on any of Blu-rays that had it, but I assume you needed to download an app. Does that app even exist at this point?

No, the second screen apps were all taken off app stores. And even if you have them in your past purchases they no longer run on newer devices due to the switch to new but processing standards etc. Unless you have an account with a purchase history and a vintage iPad that still runs on 32bit, was not upgraded past a certain firmware and still works, they are effectively gone.

Other features requiring internet such as virtual vault are also dead along with BD Live.

The only thoughtful
Inclusion in the diamond era classics was the DisneyView option which filled the black bars with archive art and newly created art complementing the image. While included in some digital extras like iTunes, availability outside popping in the right disc is inconsistent and Disney plus sadly does not care to include options for classics like they do for marvel imax etc.
imagine if Disney streaming went the premium archive approach route offering multiple versions (restored, raw scans, deep dive into extras and legacy releases) instead of cocomelon style clickbait thinking Disney classics only need one neon scrubbed version for absentee parents before focusing only of Star Wars and marvel with any depth to their content and approach. (Looking at the many Disney TV series still out of order, missing episodes, cropped aspect ratios, or entirely missing after they were said to be coming “soon” back in 2019…)
So far the only thing getting some kind of aggressive premium treatment is the Simpson’s and frankly I could not care less and wish they even included an option to chose and hide franchises.

[shinobipopcorn]

I will buy the other classic Walt movies in 4K, should they release them and they aren't DNR messes. Heck if Fantasia is one, I'll buy several copies in support of it. I'm just cautious given their track record.

[Mayboy128]

Those of you who think Disney would release Cinderella in 4K through the DMC have a lot higher opinion of the DMC than actual members of the DMC lol

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Mayboy128

Those of you who think Disney would release Cinderella in 4K through the DMC have a lot higher opinion of the DMC than actual members of the DMC lol

Truth.

[Farerb]

I don't understand. It's confirmed that it's coming. Members can already pre order it.

[kevin87]

Originally Posted by Farerb

I don't understand. It's confirmed that it's coming. Members can already pre order it.

Nobody's disputing that it's going to come out and that DMC will have a version with a DVD that's exclusive to them... what we're casting doubt on is the idea that DMC is the only place that's ever going to have it period. I gave multiple examples of a "format exclusive" a few posts ago, it just means they added a DVD in with the releases that don't have them.

[Wes_k089]

Originally Posted by TJake133

I’m curious to see if they go the route with Black Cauldron and Sword in the Stone which got surprisingly good 4K transfers for Disney plus and iTunes. Maybe they’ll even release these on disc (Halloween month exclusives?)

The Black Cauldron already has a (truly) DMC exclusive bluray release, and its the new 4k master. It looks gorgeous

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-B...Blu-ray/44739/

[dcx4610]

I have very little interest in Disney as a brand but I'd absolutely sub to their Insider Club if they ramp up the UHD physical media.

They could lock their entire catalog behind the pay wall and it would be fine by me. As long as I can buy it. That's all that matters to me.

I long thought as physical media dwindles from big box stores that labels and even studios should have their own stores to sell direct to customers.

A24 and Disney in particular should have an online store that sells all of their movies directly. Even if you charge $40 or $50 a movie, people would bite if they are getting a quality release. It's easy money, makes your fanbase more loyal and is a piece of history.

I just need Tron and Tron Legacy somehow...

[TJake133]

Originally Posted by Wes_k089

The Black Cauldron already has a (truly) DMC exclusive bluray release, and its the new 4k master. It looks gorgeous

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-B...Blu-ray/44739/

I know, I was the first to order it when I saw it pop up that year!

I meant I was hoping for a re-release on UHD as they have been doing with some of their UHD exclusive titles from D+ and Digital services (Hocus Pocus, Pirates (1 and 1-4 in international regions), Roger Rabbit). Hoping to see these come to disc in the future, especially Black Cauldron and Sword int he Stone.

[Bubbles-11]

This will be a DMC Timed Exclusive according to DiscFather

[Mackattack57973]

Broke down and just pre ordered mine. Wishful thinking but with that slipcover I’m hoping the 4K case is white