IN DEVELOPMENT: Max's "Harry Potter Series"

[Blu Lemmy]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

It’s all part of nerd rage culture lmao I think people just like / want to be angry at something. Being a “nerd” is supposed to be fun, but instead it seems to bring out the absolute worst in people.

What I don’t understand is why it has to be so personal. This new Harry Potter series isn’t going to take away the books you loved as a kid and into your late teens, it’s not going to take away the movies you loved in your early teens into your twenties. And if it turns out to be garbage, you literally are under no obligation to watch it or even think about it.

How very dare you sprout such a sensible opinion on the internet.
Don't you know you should hate everything before seeing it, then hate on it after seeing, whilst continuing to watch it so you can hate on it some more

[supersix4]

The movie combined run time is about 20hrs assuming this lasts the 7 seasons @ around 52 minutes an episode we'd get almost triple the time spent on world/ character development... Idk who could be mad at that

[Moviefan2k4]

I have all the movies, and I watch them on a fairly regular basis, but I still haven't read the books. There's a few different complete collection sets now on Amazon though, that are getting affordable enough for me to buy.

[Kevinicus]

Originally Posted by Farerb

George RR Martin said he wanted there to be 13 seasons.

That's because he is dragging everything out (including books 4 and 5).

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by supersix4

The movie combined run time is about 20hrs assuming this lasts the 7 seasons @ around 52 minutes an episode we'd get almost triple the time spent on world/ character development... Idk who could be mad at that

"Just recast Han, Luke, and Leia. They'll watch anyway"

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by supersix4

The movie combined run time is about 20hrs assuming this lasts the 7 seasons @ around 52 minutes an episode we'd get almost triple the time spent on world/ character development... Idk who could be mad at that

They said this would last 10 seasons, so assume 10 episodes per season, I think the first 3 books can easily be 3 seasons, book 5+ would definitely be expanded 5 & 6 would be 3 seasons total, 7 would be 2 seasons, 4 would be 1.2 seasons maybe.

Season 1 - Philosophers Stone
Season 2 - Chamber
Season 3 - Prisoner & start of Goblet
Season 4 - Finish Goblet
Season 5 - OOTP Pt 1
Season 6 - OOTP Pt 2
Season 7 - Half Blood Prince Pt 1
Season 8 - Half Blood Prince Pt 2
Season 9 - Deathly Hallows Pt 1
Season 10 - Deathly Hallows Pt 2

Many seem to forget OOTP is the longest book in the series followed by Deathly Hallows then HBP

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by R3P0

They said this would last 10 seasons, so assume 10 episodes per season, I think the first 3 books can easily be 3 seasons, book 5+ would definitely be expanded 5 & 6 would be 3 seasons total, 7 would be 2 seasons, 4 would be 1.2 seasons maybe.

Season 1 - Philosophers Stone
Season 2 - Chamber
Season 3 - Prisoner & start of Goblet
Season 4 - Finish Goblet
Season 5 - OOTP Pt 1
Season 6 - OOTP Pt 2
Season 7 - Half Blood Prince Pt 1
Season 8 - Half Blood Prince Pt 2
Season 9 - Deathly Hallows Pt 1
Season 10 - Deathly Hallows Pt 2

Many seem to forget OOTP is the longest book in the series followed by Deathly Hallows then HBP

If its good heck make it 30 seasons but I won't be mad if each book gets a full 7-10 episodes @50-54 minutes of total run time.

Even 7 episodes at 50 minute run time marks that's almost 6 hours of content vs. 2:30 run time of the films per book/film

let alone if its consistently 10 episode's and 52-54 minute run times.

Originally Posted by Joey9775

"Just recast Han, Luke, and Leia. They'll watch anyway"

If its good hell yeah if they mess it up like Last Jedi then god help us.

[Lutz]

Originally Posted by R3P0

They said this would last 10 seasons, so assume 10 episodes per season, I think the first 3 books can easily be 3 seasons, book 5+ would definitely be expanded 5 & 6 would be 3 seasons total, 7 would be 2 seasons, 4 would be 1.2 seasons maybe.

Season 1 - Philosophers Stone
Season 2 - Chamber
Season 3 - Prisoner & start of Goblet
Season 4 - Finish Goblet
Season 5 - OOTP Pt 1
Season 6 - OOTP Pt 2
Season 7 - Half Blood Prince Pt 1
Season 8 - Half Blood Prince Pt 2
Season 9 - Deathly Hallows Pt 1
Season 10 - Deathly Hallows Pt 2

Many seem to forget OOTP is the longest book in the series followed by Deathly Hallows then HBP

The child actors will be in their 50s by the time it’s finished.

[VagueSimplicity]

Originally Posted by Lutz

The child actors will be in their 50s by the time it’s finished.

My thought exactly.

[BluBonnet]

They can do de-aging effects.

[seamus11]

Originally Posted by R3P0

They said this would last 10 seasons

They never mentioned 10 seasons, only that it's gonna be 10-year commitment so there can be longer gap between seasons or some seasons can be longer.

[BluGalaxy]

Originally Posted by seamus11

They never mentioned 10 seasons, only that it's gonna be 10-year commitment so there can be longer gap between seasons or some seasons can be longer.

The child actors will be fine, they start at about 10 and finish about 20 in the movies so i don't see it as a big deal. And when they do that final shot of them grown up with kids of their own the original cast will be the perfect age to play the older counter parts.

[LoneWolfSones]

Personally, I kind of despise the idea of rebooting Harry Potter. It has nothing to do with JK Rowling either.

I liked the Hogwarts Legacy game and that game is proof positive you can tell original stories within the world as rich as it is.

I understand that there were things in the books that never made it to the films, but does an adaptation have to be a 1-1 beat for beat adaptation? I don't think so. In many cases sometimes what's written is unfilmable. Jackson understood this in shooting the LotR Trilogy. A lot of fans still bemoan the lack of a character like Tom Bombadil. But that character as written would not have worked and would have actually undermined Frodo's story. Also iirc Frodo had the ring for about 7 months before he left the shire. Yet in the Jackson Trilogy he gets the ring and sets out shortly thereafter which gives the film more immediacy and raises the stakes.

I do not think going back to the well for the Harry Potter books is particularly wise even if it may garner a lot of subscribers. There is simply no way you can hope to match the performances given by actors in those films. Alan Rickman's Snape and Robbie Coltraine's Hagrid for example. I grew up with Harry Potter and now being in my 30's those are the people I see when I think of those characters.

I'd rather they did something original within that world. Oh...they already tried that with Fantastic Beasts I guess. To me this feels like they are scraping the bottom of the bucket, after they've gone back to and gone to the bottom of the well.

[Doctor Jack]

To the above poster, no it doesn’t need to be a beat for beat adaptation and unlike your Tom bombadil example, there is soooo much in the potter books that is crucial to the story that we didn’t get in the movies and that’s why they feel like abridged versions. You feel so much missing. I didn’t feel anything was missing in lord of the rings. Potter has such rich and exceptional side characters and stories that either got pushed to the side or eliminated all together.

[Kuja]

Personally, I liked Fantastic Beasts' story as it began more before WB started putting their fingers on it behind-the-scenes. That one would've been better if it had been a book series first and then they adapted it from there rather than being written as they go because inevitably they started meddling with her writing on sequels, which hindered the story because we don't have a book to refer to with those when the adaptation messes with the writing. That's the reason FB2 has such a different feel from the first and third films.

I liked Hogwarts Legacy although I'd describe the story as serviceable to give players the experience they want (going through classes, exploring the castle, flying on a broom or hippogriff, etc.), not "great" necessarily. The reason the original books were better than both of these though is that they were planned and plotted out years in advance--they got full attention and energy, in other words. Whereas everything since is either not written by Rowling herself or only eked out by her because WB presses her for new content to keep interest in the IP and the parks energized.

[Patricier21]

To follow up on this, I would highly recommend everybody please consume and buy as much merchandise related to the Harry Potter movie specifically (including fantastic beasts to prove WB just how popular the franchise is as it is, and again do not buy or support anything directly related to the reboot Again, check it out if you must, but just don’t do it in a way that will give it support, Because regardless of anything, it truly doesn’t deserve to exist, and is rather unnecessary, even more so dare I say it then the live action remakes of Disney or anybody else, because at least we’re getting something new in a new medium, where is what is the point here?Truly in any kind of way?

[kevin87]

Originally Posted by Patricier21

To follow up on this, I would highly recommend everybody please consume and buy as much merchandise related to the Harry Potter movie specifically (including fantastic beasts to prove WB just how popular the franchise is as it is, and again do not buy or support anything directly related to the reboot Again, check it out if you must, but just don’t do it in a way that will give it support, Because regardless of anything, it truly doesn’t deserve to exist, and is rather unnecessary, even more so dare I say it then the live action remakes of Disney or anybody else, because at least we’re getting something new in a new medium, where is what is the point here?Truly in any kind of way?

Eh, I wouldn't say it's as pointless as a live action Disney remake. Those do nothing other than pad the runtime and stretch it out. Doing a TV show for a book series will let them be able to tell more that the movies had to understandably cut out for length.

It always annoyed me that the movies made Dobby out to be so important when he was barely in them (don't even get me started on how they mourn him but Hedwig was like oh who cares)... at the very least, they can include his other appearances.

[Blu Lemmy]

Originally Posted by Patricier21

To follow up on this, I would highly recommend everybody please consume and buy as much merchandise related to the Harry Potter movie specifically (including fantastic beasts to prove WB just how popular the franchise is as it is, and again do not buy or support anything directly related to the reboot Again, check it out if you must, but just don’t do it in a way that will give it support, Because regardless of anything, it truly doesn’t deserve to exist, and is rather unnecessary, even more so dare I say it then the live action remakes of Disney or anybody else, because at least we’re getting something new in a new medium, where is what is the point here?Truly in any kind of way?

Urh, yeah...no

[Patricier21]

Originally Posted by "Disney's Divinity" post_id=766069 time=1689379614 user_id=1631

I'm sorry, Patricier. The HP franchise is also dear to me as well and I plan to support it. I don't consider the film franchise perfect, and I imagine they wouldn't change the look of things that are based off of what the book describes anyway? The Grand Staircase is still going to look like a staircase because the books originated it, not the film series.

The mini-series won't take away the film series if that's what you're worried about; it'll just be better than the film series most likely, imo. I imagine the general design of the castle will be similar to the movies and they will keep the same theme music iconic to the property. The differences might be things like how Time Turners look or whatever, Dumbledore's outfit, etc.. One thing I hope is that the characters are dressed in black robes in the school scenes the whole series rather than regular clothes like the films adopted PoA onwards.

But like you said, If this is indeed better than the movies, then it will truly replace them, let alone losing any kind of chance for fantastic beasts to be continued in whatever way You’re the one who’s always so reprimanding of Disney with their live action remakes, well I can guarantee you, and even bet money that this is gonna be more or less exactly the same. Heck, with cursed child and other things the WB has done, there’s already more than enough proof that they are going to do this. I never said the movies were perfect (Heck, most of them are major disappointments, hence another reason why I adore fantastic beasts so much because those literally are perfect compared to most of the Harry Potter movies, especially those ironically directed by the same Director, David Yates, who like I said actually Felton seems like he wanted to make these movies as opposed to his Harry Potter movies that are more than obviously only made first easy paychecks, and it really really shows……)

Besides, there’s a decent chance that this, again let alone Percy Jackson, will not go over well just like what happened with mysterious Benedict society: First season was very well received, then look, cancelled after season two and now permanently removed from Disney+…… And like I said, the best course of action to satisfy everyone overall is for them to release the many unreleased deleted scenes, So then that will at least somewhat satisfied those who don’t consider the movies to be “perfect”/at the very least have them feel somewhat better about it, regardless of whether they actually fan edit them back into the movies, which many many people have already done; Using the TV show for that kind of thing won’t really suffice because of how different things are going to be, regardless of any similarities that they may perhaps have.

And like I said as well, it’s not going to overall satisfy you. I could even bet money on it that it’s not going to. But even regardless of that, it’s just plain wrong. This is not the way. Regardless of how “perfect“ or not it may be, it’s still Doesn’t deserve to have this after all that it’s done. I mean would you do this to Indiana Jones (despite everything)? Would you do this to Star Wars? Would you do this to toy story etc. Not only for cultural significance, but because of how it’s overall received, and quite frankly every time they do something like this, rebooting something that’s already greatly well received even regardless of cultural significance, it never ever ends up well in the end. Like you said, if you go into something with ill intent, it never ever ends well in the end no matter what no matter how otherwise it may seem

[Patricier21]

Originally Posted by Blu Lemmy

Urh, yeah...no

Why not? Have you considered anything that I’ve said? How would you like it if this was something relevant/related to you (which it apparently is.....)

Originally Posted by kevin87

Eh, I wouldn't say it's as pointless as a live action Disney remake. Those do nothing other than pad the runtime and stretch it out. Doing a TV show for a book series will let them be able to tell more that the movies had to understandably cut out for length.

It always annoyed me that the movies made Dobby out to be so important when he was barely in them (don't even get me started on how they mourn him but Hedwig was like oh who cares)... at the very least, they can include his other appearances.

I would not say that they padded runtime;They added on and fixed a lot of issues that the original movies had, such as the nonsensical hula seen in the lion King, which made a whole heck of a lot more sense to say the least in the live action remake: I mean first of all, especially with Rob Minkoff confirming that there are no humans in this world, how the heck does Timon no white hula and drag are? Also not only that, but the previous scene very clearly established there’s no greenery or vegetation left, so where/how did they get everything they needed in order to be able to do that? What they did in the live action remake again Makes a whole heck of a lot more sense to say the least, still having it be some white “cartoony” but in a way that actually makes sense. Likewise things like expanding on Ariel and Eric’s relationship, which also has it make more sense and have more substance to it, proving against the critique of “marrying someone you just met/don’t even know”, EH?Same with actually giving Jasmine more of an arc with her values and what she truly wants slash is getting out in taking over from her father etc.

And yes, I definitely see what you mean about Dobby, but they at least Somewhat, however not ideally, made it up by giving him the additional scene at Grimauld Place, Not to mention overall that his role in the books leading up to this it’s almost kind of pointless/doesn’t really matter in the end, as it doesn’t really change how and what he does in DH, eh?To reevaluate, a lot of these cut moments from the movies, while they would’ve been good to see, Are not really that necessary when you truly think about it, not to mention that for a lot of them we have the games, even the later games as well, adding on moments from the book that weren't in the movies. Also please consider that if the TV show covers everything, or even close to everything that wasn’t included in the movies, then what would the point be having the books, especially with the illustrated versions? That’s literally taking away the whole point of a book, which is to read it and imagine it in your mind, eh? If you can literally get everything from the book in visual media, then there would be no point in experiencing it and or still having the book no matter what no matter how otherwise it may seem