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[caliblue15]

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

Eventhough the reason why we copy/paste the article is due to them typically being blocked at work for other members?

Not to be a dick, but isn't the reason for those work filters for people to actually work. Bypassing it for people at work doesn't make it right...

I don't care either way, just like showing the other side to peeps.

[Marine Mike]

Originally Posted by caliblue15

Not to be a dick, but isn't the reason for those work filters for people to actually work. Bypassing it for people at work doesn't make it right...

I don't care either way, just like showing the other side to peeps.

Typically those work filters are put into place so they cannot view pron and so on. If there were keywords that would block them from viewing the article, then it would block that post.

[Rblu-Dblu]

Originally Posted by caliblue15

Not to be a dick, but isn't the reason for those work filters for people to actually work. Bypassing it for people at work doesn't make it right...

I don't care either way, just like showing the other side to peeps.

If I'm not wasting work hours on bluray.com then I'm going to be wasting work hours at another site. I'd rather it be here with all of you lovely people!

[Maximus]

Yeah, it's difficult, but we should respect other websites' and the hard work they put into writing their reviews/articles. We don't like it when people copy whole reviews and not post a link. Better to let people wait until they get home. We're not stopping people posting anything, people can post key parts, but not the whole article.

[Marine Mike]

Originally Posted by Maximus

Yeah, it's difficult, but we should respect other websites' and the hard work they put into writing their reviews/articles. We don't like it when people copy whole reviews and not post a link. Better to let people wait until they get home. We're not stopping people posting anything, people can post key parts, but not the whole article.

Ah gotcha, so its okay to post some of it, but not all, thats cool.


*Obviously its not post 30+%
Just a paragraph or two (if its drawn out) or a sentence here and there (if the article is only like a paragraph).

[jono_0101]

this is understandable, even though i am usually one of the people that asks someone to post the whole article so i can read it at work

i guess im going to have to make note of the things i want to check out and remember to do it when i get home, but yeah, its better to give people the web hits for their own work

[jamclaur]

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

Typically those work filters are put into place so they cannot view pron and so on. If there were keywords that would block them from viewing the article, then it would block that post.

but my life is build around pron!

[caliblue15]

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

Typically those work filters are put into place so they cannot view pron and so on. If there were keywords that would block them from viewing the article, then it would block that post.

View pron, gaming, anything unproductive... reading a forum while working is technically unproductive... but that's another issue with ethics, just pointing out the other side.

[Marine Mike]

Originally Posted by caliblue15

View pron, gaming, anything unproductive... reading a forum while working is technically unproductive... but that's another issue with ethics, just pointing out the other side.

If thats the case then this website would be blocked for the same line of thinking therefore those other websites were blocked unintentionally.

I don't really think it would be unethical to post a review of a video game to someone that is unable to see it. I think it would be unethical if you actively assisted in having them go to a Proxy Website that would allow them to view that website directly without having it be blocked. Also, would you be unethical compared to the person viewing the material be violating ethics?

[Rike255]

Booooo-urns! Rule makes sense though I guess.

[jamclaur]

Originally Posted by Marine Mike

If thats the case then this website would be blocked for the same line of thinking therefore those other websites were blocked unintentionally.

I don't really think it would be unethical to post a review of a video game to someone that is unable to see it. I think it would be unethical if you actively assisted in having them go to a Proxy Website that would allow them to view that website directly without having it be blocked. Also, would you be unethical compared to the person viewing the material be violating ethics?

I agree. Viewing a website at work for 5 minutes is no more unethical than a smoker taking a smoke break. Either way you're doing something not "productive."

[jono_0101]

Originally Posted by jamclaur

I agree. Viewing a website at work for 5 minutes is no more unethical than a smoker taking a smoke break. Either way you're doing something not "productive."

they expect people are going to take small breaks throughout the day, people arent going to sit at their desks and work continuously until its quitting time, there are plenty of people at everyones job that will sit and talk about nonsense for extended periods of time too, some people just take their breaks in different ways, i dont see it as "unethical" unless you are spending all your time and neglecting your work, or you are actively circumventing your company's firewall through a proxy site to view sites that should be blocked, but i understand the reasoning behind the linking instead of posting full articles, that takes web traffic away from the people that created the article you are reading, and thats not cool, those people are entitled to the web hits for their labor

[jsteinhauer]

Reading blocked material at work is simply not a question of ethics or morals. We all have consciences to decide whether how we are spending our vocational time violates some ethical principle. Laws and rules and barriers have nothing to do with ethics or morals.

Where I work, certain web content, including anything sexual, tobacco, certain political sites, and almost anything videogame related (I can't read AP news articles with videogames or the sex industry as topics) are blocked. But I can spend the day working on the NY times crossword or Yahoo Sports or Blu-ray.com. There is no obvious issue with productivity in that pattern.

Furthermore, I work until the work is done. That can vary by as much as 100% (or 50%, depending on how you look at it). I sometimes have to wait literally hours between real material to work on. What else should I be doing? I'm not getting paid, when I'm sitting there doing nothing. I'd much rather be busy then entire time.

[Maximus]

Lists updated:

Playstationlifestyle and HHG are now unbanned. HHG should be labelled appropriately. VGChartz reviews, articles and editorial is unbanned, but sales figures and editorial/analysis about sales specifically remain banned.

Suspension is now only for repeat offenders, offending posts/threads will be locked or edited and PMs sent. If the same users keep appearing then they will be suspended as before.

Basically we're more lenient than before.

[Denoku]

Well I've read this a while ago but never really read the other posts. As being a new "Mod" I went through more throughly to get a better idea of how to manage things.

I agree though mostly, the sites that are banned are mostly unreliable. HHG is not someone I would ever trust for gaming news. Somehow though he was the one throwing around the idea for Kratos for the new MK and what do you know? Kratos is in MK so not everything is not always false but you have to be careful and use your best judgement. Kotaku is decent but another site I wouldn't fully trust. Seems to be perfectly reasonable where it's at now though. Just my thoughts.

I don't post info on games though since I would have a hard time keeping it up to date.

[phranctoast]

I can't say I agree with the list. IGN pisses me off with them being inconsistent with reviews, but they're only human. Can't fault them for that. As far as news is concerned they're pretty much on.

[Groo The Perverted]

good to see Playstation Lifestyle is unbanned. I used to use them on here for the Store Updates until I was told it was banned.

[Denoku]

I think as long as you're not posting ridiclous info and you're sure to put "Rumor" if it's unreliable we'll all be ok. This is jut basically a problem if people are posting false info that leads to people getting their hopes up about something that may or may not be true. I saw a lot of people complaining but I think we owe it to everyone to post the most vaulable info we can. I personally don't see anyone posting a lot of false rumors or whatever so I think we're safe.

[jsteinhauer]

I'd like to propose a suggestion in order to provide for more uniformity in specific game threads. Although I am usually against rules, this might serve to protect fun experiences rather than restrict them.

Perhaps it could be a uniform policy in specific new game threads that spoiler tags should be used for a period of time after the release date...21 days, 1 month, whatever seems right. The spoiler warning could be removed from the title after whatever the right period of time. Then veterans could discuss freely, while latecomers could feel completely save browsing the first three weeks or one month of posts for selected assistance.

Just a thought. We're still all adding spoiler tags in the ME2 thread, but there are about 4 or 5 of us actively participating, all of whom have played one or more times through, and it's unclear when we can stop.


I would suggest having two threads per game, one for storyline discussion and one for gameplay/technical discussion, but I think that would be too cumbersome for this forum which is about way more than just PS3 games.

[Denoku]

Originally Posted by jsteinhauer

I'd like to propose a suggestion in order to provide for more uniformity in specific game threads. Although I am usually against rules, this might serve to protect fun experiences rather than restrict them.

Perhaps it could be a uniform policy in specific new game threads that spoiler tags should be used for a period of time after the release date...21 days, 1 month, whatever seems right. The spoiler warning could be removed from the title after whatever the right period of time. Then veterans could discuss freely, while latecomers could feel completely save browsing the first three weeks or one month of posts for selected assistance.

Just a thought. We're still all adding spoiler tags in the ME2 thread, but there are about 4 or 5 of us actively participating, all of whom have played one or more times through, and it's unclear when we can stop.


I would suggest having two threads per game, one for storyline discussion and one for gameplay/technical discussion, but I think that would be too cumbersome for this forum which is about way more than just PS3 games.

Well I agree, there should be some uniformity. That is the problem with the Mass Effect 2 thread. Some people are putting spoilers and some aren't. Like you said it's been the same few people posting that have beat the game at least once or twice by now. Now whose to say when we stop putting spoilers? I do think at a certain point the spoilers can stop, but it can be unfair to those that haven't played. I tend to stay out of threads on a game I haven't played yet, unless I'm looking for an answer.

I think a month sounds reasonable. For the first month - month 1/2 it should be spoiler tagged. Having two threads for each discussion would be too much but I think we can make an exception for some. Heavy Rain was one of the games where it had two separate threads. I think Mass Effect 2 could be one as well since the story is pretty immersive. At this point, I don't see a reason for another Mass Effect 2 thread. It's been out for almost a month and for the most part it's the same exact people in the thread, that have beat the game.

I'm not sure where my authority lies to make a rule on this. I agree that the first month for new releases should be spoiler tagged. Easiest way would be a vote, to see how long people think threads should go spoiler tagged before it stops. People are always going to complain about something, at least with a poll there can be a general consensus.