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Old 07-02-2010, 05:26 PM   #2381
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If you upgrade you r speakers in March 2012 then I will upgrade before ya
I 'll have enough money at that point to get everything I want, the only thing you should have at this point is your receiver.

Did you finally listen to the Rainmaker lol?
Boy, we're sure going to miss you 2 guys when you move on over to the Totem thread and leave us Energy owners all alone...to fend for ourselves

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Old 07-02-2010, 05:52 PM   #2382
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If you upgrade you r speakers in March 2012 then I will upgrade before ya
I 'll have enough money at that point to get everything I want, the only thing you should have at this point is your receiver.

Did you finally listen to the Rainmaker lol?
No I think I will be waiting to go back..... well see if I get the wife to let me spend $3k all together, I will have it all next march... when taxes come back... she said if we get $6k I can spend half of it. the year before last we got $4800... now we will have an extra write off when the baby comes... otherwise I am just gonna get a receiver and TV stand.... but I was also thinking I could get the receiver and the rainmakers or mite/mite-tc and the receiver, then just save up for the staffs or the rainmaker center... IDK what to do.
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Boy, we're sure going to miss you 2 guys when you move on over to the Totem thread and leave us Energy owners all alone...to fend for ourselves
Oh we will still be here spreading the love... Energy will always have a special place with me...
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:00 PM   #2383
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No I think I will be waiting to go back..... well see if I get the wife to let me spend $3k all together, I will have it all next march... when taxes come back... she said if we get $6k I can spend half of it. the year before last we got $4800... now we will have an extra write off when the baby comes... otherwise I am just gonna get a receiver and TV stand.... but I was also thinking I could get the receiver and the rainmakers or mite/mite-tc and the receiver, then just save up for the staffs or the rainmaker center... IDK what to do.


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Old 07-02-2010, 06:24 PM   #2384
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Thanks for all the info guys. I decided on 3 RC -LCRs and 4 RC-Rs.

I have a 30 day return policy. If I don't like them or can't sell my gear before then I'm returning everything and keeping what I have now.

Upgraditis if that's how it's spelled and an understanding wife makes the joy of this hobby so much better. As long as I don't lose money or take a step down in quality I'll be happy with the RCs.
Congrats GAWD!! You won't regret that buy. Your upgraditis will be satiated with this setup. I'd love to have 4 RC-R's in the back. That's gonna be wicked!!
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:56 PM   #2385
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Oh we will still be here spreading the love... Energy will always have a special place with me...
Indeed and I'll be writing alot in this thread since Ilove Enrgy so much, I maybe look into the new RC god knows if they are going to use borosilicate as damping material in their next line like Totem does, Who knows if they are quick enough I may be interested in pair of those new RC.
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Indeed and I'll be writing alot in this thread since Ilove Enrgy so much, I maybe look into the new RC god knows if they are going to use borosilicate as damping material in their next line like Totem does, Who knows if they are quick enough I may be interested in pair of those new RC.
That's good to know Oliver. By the time I'm ready to get more Energy's they may come out with the new line. If they don't allow us to drill soon I'm going to be out of a job. It's not looking good out here at the moment. The office I work in went from over 300 down to 150 personnel in the past week.
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That's good to know Oliver. By the time I'm ready to get more Energy's they may come out with the new line. If they don't allow us to drill soon I'm going to be out of a job. It's not looking good out here at the moment. The office I work in went from over 300 down to 150 personnel in the past week.
Mike this is sad news to hear I know the Economy down there in the States is not to good right now, I'm lucky enough to get a raise every year for now in Canada and the Economy has started groing again and it barely went down while you guys are still in a big crisys.

I honestly wish you the best of luck .
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Mike this is sad news to hear I know the Economy down there in the States is not to good right now, I'm lucky enough to get a raise every year for now in Canada and the Economy has started groing again and it barely went down while you guys are still in a big crisys.

I honestly wish you the best of luck .
Thanks Oliver. It'll be ok, just going to take a bunch of time off. I'm on vacation next week, and Mondays and Fridays through the rest of the month. It will give me time to enjoy my new Energy's.

I'm going to get a couple new movies, take it easy next week, and crank up my new Energy's.

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Old 07-03-2010, 05:02 AM   #2389
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hello all,


rc-10s or c-300s? for 2 channel smooth jazz listening? c-300 ($400) rc-10 ($300)
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:50 AM   #2390
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rc-10s or c-300s? for 2 channel smooth jazz listening? c-300 ($400) rc-10 ($300)

That is honestly a tough choice. The RC-10 is likely to be more detailed even tho the C-300 is very well detailed and outperforms alot of speakers in that price range, the RC-10 sound big and back in 2006 they were just about the best bookshelves available for less than 1000$.

I personally would prefer the RC-10 for any kind of Music over the C-300 with all due respect to Callas. I would prefer the RC-30 over my C-500.

Is it strickly 2.0, do you have a sub? A good one?

Even in 2.0 the RC-10 are tremendous performers so are the C-300 but
it's really about what you would prefer in your Jazz, I would qualify the Rc-10 as beeing a little more refined, more researched for, either way you'll be happy. The C-300 on the on the other end will have a lower extension because of the bigger driver and cabinet so if you really enjoy the low notes in Jazz maybe the C-300 is the better way to go.

FYI I think here in Canada at least the original retail price of the RC-10 was 735$ while the C-300 was 600$ a pair. After all it uses kevlar instead of carboard fiberglass diver, it has the ribbed elleptical surround that reduces distortionand also has a stronger cabinet and handles more power than the c-300.

Sorry to make your choice so difficult maybe more difficult than it alredy was but I have heard both and I mean they are both great.

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Old 07-03-2010, 06:20 AM   #2391
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rc-10s or c-300s? for 2 channel smooth jazz listening? c-300 ($400) rc-10 ($300)
I agree with Oliver....

However let me play the other side of the coin for you.

All your speaker you have now are from the C-series, so the best match for you would be C-300s. While they may lack some detail compared to the RC-10s, I find the C-300s to be extremely detailed and full sounding for a speaker in its price range. Imaging is excellent, and the bass is actually quite nice. I have heard lots of "higher-end" speakers like PSB and Paradigm Monitors.... and the Energys stack up to them just fine. I recently re-auditioned the newer CF-70s and came home and was listening to the same songs, and I told my wife... well I better get either the Totems or Dyns because I don't think the new Energys offer me much over what I have now. It wasn't until I really auditioned the Totems and Dyns that I had found a speaker that I would want to switch the Energys out for.

I think you have an interesting choice, and if you were starting out, I would say get the RCs, however since you have the C-series center and surrounds now, I would get the C-300s. They are a very good speaker. You will be very happy.
I listen to John Mayer and classical and rock music and I love John Mayer and Classical on these speakers.
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Steve, I really was not sure what donaldsonjune is going to use the RC-10 with, he mentionned Jazz.

He did not mention anything about the rest of his setup in his sig but I agree with you if he's going to add to what he already has I'd say go for the C-300 as they sound amazing regardless of the RC-10's performance and they will blend in nicely with the rest of his current setup.

If you ask the question plain and simple one or the other then RC-10 it is IMHO but the C-300 is a great contender.
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Old 07-03-2010, 11:53 AM   #2393
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hello all,

i got the wife's approval
i'm going to wwsterio today to hear the rc-10s
no c-300s at the store. leaning towards the rc-10s.
i'll keep everyone posted.
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i got the wife's approval
i'm going to wwsterio today to hear the rc-10s
no c-300s at the store. leaning towards the rc-10s.
i'll keep everyone posted.
Donaldsonjune, I don't know if you read any of my previous posts in this thread in the past couple of weeks, but I just purchased the RC-10 about a week ago, and just past the 100 hr break in. Through the break in period I listened to a lot of classical and jazz. One of the things I found myself repeating over and over again in my posts was how I thought these speakers seemed to be made specifically for jazz music because it sounded so good and detailed, and very balanced across all frequencies. I was listening to a Christian McBride CD, and at one point in a tune where he was playing his stand up bass alone without any other instruments, I heard someone in the background yell "yea," like they were enjoying his playing. I had to laugh because I had never heard that before. These speakers are very revealing.
Diana Krall sounds fantastic on these things. Just my 2 cents, for what it's worth.

I think you would enjoy these.

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Old 07-03-2010, 01:01 PM   #2395
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mike,

yes i've been reading your postings. i hope they honor the coupon in the store. $63 off is a steal for these babies. we'll talk center channel later. but will the rc-mini work?
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mike,

yes i've been reading your postings. i hope they honor the coupon in the store. $63 off is a steal for these babies. we'll talk center channel later. but will the rc-mini work?
Well, here is the deal on that. According to Seve (Callas) and others I've talked to the best match would be the RC-LCR. They warned me ahead before I went with the RC series that would be the case. I went ahead with it knowing I would have to wait until the price comes down on them later. I just use my old Infinity center until that happens.
When I called Vann's to order my RC-10's (and they are 329 a pair now by the way, price went down right after I bought mine), the guy told me that for my small room the RC Mini would do fine, but Steve and the guys recommended I stick to the RC-LCR for best match, so that's what I'm going to do. I can wait till the price comes down later.

Edit: I was just reading some reviews on the RC-Mini, and there are some out there that are using the Mini with the RC-10's and they love it. One guy said because of it's smaller drivers it lacks just a bit in mid range, but the high end matches perfectly to the RC-10. However, I'm still going to wait for the LCR.

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mike,

yes i've been reading your postings. i hope they honor the coupon in the store. $63 off is a steal for these babies. we'll talk center channel later. but will the rc-mini work?
Technically yes the RC mini would work, however it is NOT the best match for the RC-10s, the RC-LCR is, and I am sure you could get them to give you 20% off...
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Technically yes the RC mini would work, however it is NOT the best match for the RC-10s, the RC-LCR is, and I am sure you could get them to give you 20% off...
Yes, that's why I'm waiting for the LCR. After all, just look at the speaker. It's basically an RC-10 with an extra driver.

Man, looking back at the specs on them, I can see why bluray has 3 LCR's set up as his fronts.

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Steve, I really was not sure what donaldsonjune is going to use the RC-10 with, he mentionned Jazz.

He did not mention anything about the rest of his setup in his sig but I agree with you if he's going to add to what he already has I'd say go for the C-300 as they sound amazing regardless of the RC-10's performance and they will blend in nicely with the rest of his current setup.

If you ask the question plain and simple one or the other then RC-10 it is IMHO but the C-300 is a great contender.
yes, I agree 100%, the RC would be better in terms of detail and being of a higher-end make. I was simply playing devils advocate. AND I know for a fact, as I am sure you do also that the the C-series and all Energy speakers are made for all types of music. I know the C-300s work great with Jazz/blues, cause I listen to a lot of John Mayer, and I always use John Mayer for all of my auditionings with other speakers..... Like I said earlier, not until I heard the Totems and Dyns have I found a speaker I thought I would get rid of the C-300s for. That is how well they play compared to other $1000 speakers, like Monitor Audio RS6, Paradigm Monitor 7s, Energy CF-70s, PSB T55s, Kefs IQ series, B&W 684s, all speakers I have heard in their price range, and actually they all cost more, but the C-300s only gave up bass, not detail, or sound stage or bright highs, not anything else.

Donaldson. If this is to go with the rest of your system. the C-300s are awesome performers, the RC 10s will be better, in fact Arrt Vanndellay on this thread used to have C-500 and he got the RC10s and said they had better detail then the C-500, they didn't have the bass.... but that is what your sub is for...

It sucks they don't have both...but either way you will get a great speaker.
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Well, here is the deal on that. According to Seve (Callas) and others I've talked to the best match would be the RC-LCR. They warned me ahead before I went with the RC series that would be the case. I went ahead with it knowing I would have to wait until the price comes down on them later. I just use my old Infinity center until that happens.
When I called Vann's to order my RC-10's (and they are 329 a pair now by the way, price went down right after I bought mine), the guy told me that for my small room the RC Mini would do fine, but Steve and the guys recommended I stick to the RC-LCR for best match, so that's what I'm going to do. I can wait till the price comes down later.

Edit: I was just reading some reviews on the RC-Mini, and there are some out there that are using the Mini with the RC-10's and they love it. One guy said because of it's smaller drivers it lacks just a bit in mid range, but the high end matches perfectly to the RC-10. However, I'm still going to wait for the LCR.
The RC-Mini Center is meant to be paired to the RC-mini bookshelfs.
http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...-5-1-overview/

The RC-LCR is meant to pair with all their other speakers from the RC-10s on up.
http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...-5-1-overview/
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