Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

No I fully believe that Copper is out

The biggest limitation hindering widespread fiber optic adoption is the cost requirements of implementing new fiber optic lines when old infrastructures such as DSL and cable are still serving customers.

Installing a new fiber optic network is a large capital expenditure for service providers.

You have fiber, I have fiber to a node and coax from the node to residence using an older DOCSIS 3.0 modem. Speed checked at 1420 EDT. Post your speed.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

You have fiber, I have fiber to a node and coax from the node to residence using an older DOCSIS 3.0 modem. Speed checked at 1420 EDT. Post your speed.

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He's just going to tell you that you need symmetrical internet and that your upload speed is not good enough.

[Vilya]

Here's mine:

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I have the same symmetry "problem" that you do.

[bhampton]

It's nuts. Once you start looking (at content to censor ... I'm a few posts behind) where do you stop?

How's Porky's look to today's culture ? Porky's 2 is much worse in this regard though it tries to be anti-racism.

Are Sixteen Candles and Weird Science offensive yet? Because last time I saw them they were definitely edgy.


What about Planet of the Apes ?

[JohnAV]

When you get into the cable vs fiber discussion it devolves usually to someone with alpha mindset.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

He's just going to tell you that you need symmetrical internet and that your upload speed is not good enough.

Most likely true.

I believe that my speed greatly improved is because co-ops in NC are offering fiber service if the numbers are there, 5G (not likely at my address) and SpaceX Starlink satellite internet service.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

When you get into the cable vs fiber discussion it devolves usually to someone with alpha mindset.

This one appears to have won the day and having a victory smoke.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

This one appears to have won the day and having a victory smoke.

He probably also thinks streaming is just getting better and better too.

[Vilya]

The Song Of The South thread just got deleted. Another victim of our fellow forum member's intolerance for each other's opinions.

[bhampton]

careful, we need this thread.

Without it I could cancel my internet.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The Song Of The South thread just got deleted.

Nope, locked and recent content deleted. Outside the physical media topic any who.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Nope, locked and recent content deleted. Outside the physical media topic any who.

It must have just been gone temporarily while the mods deleted posts because when I tried to access it earlier all I got was the "invalid thread" page.

Apparently, my mini history lesson about Thomas Jefferson, his wife Martha, and Sally Hemings was deemed to be too off topic when I refuted a member's assertion that Thomas Jefferson had married a slave. He only had one wife, Martha, but that doesn't mean that he became celibate upon becoming a widower in 1782.

In fact, ALL posts made after June 10th are gone.

Song of The South does exist on physical media: VHS tape, laserdisc, and DVD. The Song Of The South thread is located in the Blu-ray movies- North America > Wish List section and that is an entirely appropriate place for it to be.

Incidentally, not every thread at this website is about physical media.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

B]Song of The South[/B] does exist on physical media: VHS tape, DVD, and laserdisc. Further, not every thread at this website is about physical media.

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Q. Is Song of the South officially available on DVD or Blu-Ray?

A. No, Song of the South is not officially available on DVD or Blu-Ray. Any DVDs, Blu-Rays or VCDs of Song of the South you may see for sale are bootleg (unauthorized) copies, so buy at your own risk.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

??

Blu-ray.com lists this DVD release in the DVD database:



https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Song-of-...th-DVD/159465/ (China)

According to Wikipedia:

"An NTSC DVD was released in Taiwan for the rental market by Classic Reels."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South#Release

Even so, the thread for Song Of The South is right where it belongs.

[JohnAV]

see https://www.songofthesouth.net/index.php.

The text above was from https://www.songofthesouth.net/faq/index.html#2

images of products
https://www.songofthesouth.net/memor...isualmedia.php

Likely copied from VHS, Laser Disk, or VHD?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

see https://www.songofthesouth.net/index.php.

The text above was from https://www.songofthesouth.net/faq/index.html

I knew where the quote came from as soon as you posted it. They seem to be unaware that there is world beyond the borders of the U.S.

The import DVD still has a "currently out of stock" listing on Amazon Japan after all of these years even though there are no plans to restock this long out of print item.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/Song-South-...3217291&sr=8-4

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I knew where the quote came from as soon as you posted it. They seem to be unaware that there is world beyond the borders of the U.S.

The import DVD still has a "currently out of stock" listing on Amazon Japan.

Oh go look at his collection of images and then try to tell me that again.

images of products
https://www.songofthesouth.net/memor...isualmedia.php

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About Me
It all started when I saw Song of the South in theaters at the age of 6 in 1986. I loved it! But after that, the movie gradually faded away, and so did my memory of it. For nine years all I could vaguely remember was Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox, Brer Bear, and the bull scene. Then, at the age of 15, I was at an antiques show in Bakersfield, California (I also collect Hemingray glass insulators), when I noticed those familiar Disney characters peering up at me from under a record dealer's table. The vibrant yellow cover awakened my fond childhood memories. I asked the dealer how much he wanted for the poor old thing—one record was scratched, one broken, and one missing. He sold it to me for $1. The rest is history I guess... my collecting nature took over! I started finding more books and records in antique shops, and before I knew it, I had a small collection of memorabilia that I wanted to share with the world.

In 1998, I began working on a web site to display my collection—a mere 15 items at the time. In 1999, when my first web site finally went public, I began receiving dozens of emails from people asking me about the movie, looking for answers. It was then that I began asking myself the same questions. Where was this movie? Why wasn't it available? My eyes were opened to the general lack of information available on Song of the South. Even though the Internet was still pretty new at the time, this "cybersilence" was unusual, especially for a Walt Disney film.

Seeing an opportunity to fill that gap, I began to work on a solution: provide the public with the most information possible on Song of the South. As I researched the movie and collected more and more memorabilia, my goal evolved into a passion. Today, I've amassed over 500 memorabilia items with no end in sight! Since 2000, the Internet has grown by leaps and bounds, and information on Song of the South can now be found everywhere. I still believe that this web site is the largest single repository for information on this film, and I'll work to keep it that way.

Over the years, I've learned and heard from hundreds of people sharing their own opinions about this film. In turn, I feel that I've matured and mellowed out and have tried to tone down my bias on this web site. My intent is not to blindly praise this film, but rather present the information to the public and let them decide for themselves. That said, I still genuinely believe that Walt Disney had no ill intent creating this movie, and I strongly believe it should be released—please read my defense for more information. I'm saddened by Disney leadership attempting to suppress Walt Disney's visions by censoring the studio's history, flawed or not.

I've been interviewed many times over the years, including CNN, the Associated Press, several newspapers, students, and individuals looking to make documentaries. I'm always happy to answer your questions and share more information on the film... whatever keeps people talking about this movie. Please always feel free to reach out and contact me!

Sincerely,
Christian Willis

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Oh go look at his collection of images and then try to tell me that again.

I saw them, but I found this DVD listing in a matter of minutes, and its origin history. Apparently, SongOfTheSouth.net is aware of this DVD:



https://www.songofthesouth.net/news/...222cc21-image/

This DVD release can be found at the Uncle Remus Museum in Eatonton, Georgia:

"An NTSC DVD was released in Taiwan for the rental market by Classic Reels, and as of 2012, could be found at the Uncle Remus Museum in Eatonton, Georgia, according to curator and bookkeeper Bill Watterson."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South#Release

Blu-ray.com, as a rule, does not allow the listing of bootlegs in their DVD database, either.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I saw them, but I found this DVD listing in a matter of minutes, and its origin history, while their entire website dedicated to this ONE movie appears to be unaware that a DVD was EVER pressed.

Blu-ray.com, as a rule, does not allow the listing of bootlegs in their DVD database, either.

Amazon.jp generally does not maintain listings for bootleg products AND for years after they have gone out of print.

This same DVD release can be found at the Uncle Remus Museum in Edmonton, Georgia:

"An NTSC DVD was released in Taiwan for the rental market by Classic Reels, and as of 2012, could be found at the Uncle Remus Museum in Eatonton, Georgia, according to curator and bookkeeper Bill Watterson."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South#Release

An NTSC DVD was released in Taiwan for the rental market by Classic Reels, and as of 2012, could be found at the Uncle Remus Museum in Eatonton, Georgia, according to curator and bookkeeper Bill Watterson. This release appears to have been created from a PAL VHS, and has a 4% faster running time because of its PAL sourc

Think that was ever authorized, I doubt it.

Good sleuthing.

[Ender14]

My mother-in-law had Song of the South on DVD and she gave it to us. It looks like a bootleg copied from VHS or laser disc. I think she said she got it on eBay. The image quality is pretty bad and some of the dark scenes it is hard to tell what is going on. I had never seen it before she gave it to us (very recently).

I consider myself to be a pretty liberal person and sensitive to others but I really don't see why this movie has been demonized the way it has. Yes, there are outdated racial stereotypes and I did cringe a couple of times, but certainly nothing that requires it to be erased from existence. If Birth of a Nation can still exist then there is no reason SotS can't as well. I understand it is Disney's decision, but they really should reconsider. I don't believe in censoring anything or erasing history. As other have said, it should be used as a learning tool.