Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread

[omenboy]

Dark Force also posted earlier this morning that The Backlot Murders is being put back on sale for those who missed it the first time, and to stay tuned to the Facebook page to find out when the second round of the sale begins.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

Sadly Flesh is probably their biggest title yet. For a company that compares themselves to Vinegar Syndrome and all the other genre companies out there, his output has been pretty weak so far. His titles have ranged from mediocre/bad to okay at best.

Most companies try and start off with a bang to gain name recognition, then throw out the lesser titles. I'm still waiting for Dark Forces to throw out a huge title, and no, Freeway 2 and Mirror Mirror 2 are not it.

We don't need another vinegar syndrome. They've cornered the market on quirk and oddball stuff. A label that releases normal movies sadly remains elusive.

[babybreese]

Originally Posted by wicky_J

They've been touting on facebook that they have Cop Killers so I would assume that over Flesh Gordon, but then again this is Dork Force we're talking about here. They may have both.

As all of Osco's other 'big' titles have come out already ( thru Code Red ) and FLESH has long been AWOL,
I would not expect to see if on a DF label release anytime soon. COP KILLERS, sure.

[Crispy Noodle]

Originally Posted by dawnofthediscs

Yeah, they didn't announce any new title.
They just name dropped something old boy has worked on in the past.
This means nothing to me.
Maybe, if they announced that title, I'd actually care about this announcement, "monkey boy"

Well it was 7:30 in the morning, and I was just starting to drink my coffee, the announcement concluded with the text "and there's one more little thing... Or should we say...really big thing! STAY TUNED..." followed by the one sheet for Flesh Gordon, so I took that pretty definitively. In caffeinated hindsight, maybe not so much. We'll certainly find out. It's a title I've really been hoping for for a long time, so a bit of wishful thinking involved.

As far as the Buckaroo Banzai quote just because you laughed, I have no defense.

[Fdup Flix]

Originally Posted by Crispy Noodle

As far as the Buckaroo Banzai quote just because you laughed, I have no defense.

No defense ever needed to quote BB!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

Most companies try and start off with a bang to gain name recognition, then throw out the lesser titles. I'm still waiting for Dark Forces to throw out a huge title, and no, Freeway 2 and Mirror Mirror 2 are not it.

I think it has been made abundantly clear that DF isn't "most companies." Freeway 2 and Mirror Mirror are perfectly fine titles for a label that one guy runs with Bill Olsen on call to gum up the works now & then. With some perspective, these are big titles for him and if he puts as much effort into those discs as he does in hyping his company, they'll be great releases.

Man, we give Dark Force some shit, but let's give him more than six months & change to build his brand. It's only fair.

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by dissention

I think it has been made abundantly clear that DF isn't "most companies." Freeway 2 and Mirror Mirror are perfectly fine titles for a label that one guy runs with Bill Olsen on call to gum up the works now & then. With some perspective, these are big titles for him and if he puts as much effort into those discs as he does in hyping his company, they'll be great releases.

Man, we give Dark Force some shit, but let's give him more than six months & change to build his brand. It's only fair.

Appreciate that dissention, a lot of the bigger titles have been put out to death. Dark Force is now focusing on titles that we feel needed a revamping and reinsertion back into cinema history. So we will be putting much attention into top notch restoration, box art, menus and extras. We are enamored by the limited edition collectables which we have been currently releasing. We are also very excited about the new relationship with Bill Osco and Cop Killers which we feel is a powerhouse of a little movie that we didn't even know about until recently. Now we want everyone to know about it and we want to release it in its best light possible. Its a great honor and challenge for us to take movies we love like God's Bloody Acre and Cop Killers that have very little surviving elements left, track them down, restore and then re-release them back into the public. Nothing makes us more fulfilled.

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

Appreciate that dissention, a lot of the bigger titles have been put out to death. Dark Force is now focusing on titles that we feel needed a revamping and reinsertion back into cinema history. So we will be putting much attention into top notch restoration, box art, menus and extras. We are enamored by the limited edition collectables which we have been currently releasing. We are also very excited about the new relationship with Bill Osco and Cop Killers which we feel is a powerhouse of a little movie that we didn't even know about until recently. Now we want everyone to know about it and we want to release it in its best light possible. Its a great honor and challenge for us to take movies we love like God's Bloody Acre and Cop Killers that have very little surviving elements left, track them down, restore and then re-release them back into the public. Nothing makes us more fulfilled.

I mean, either way you spin it, you take what you can get.

Bill seems to give you a lot of titles and/or use his connections to help you with titles.


I imagine it's difficult to get established in the home video and distribution world and very difficult to convince studios to work with a new kid on the block and/or meet their standards for licensing.


Looking forward to the day you're actually able to strike out and really get some great titles.


EDIT: Quick question though, "Dark Force is now focusing on titles that we feel needed a revamping and reinsertion back into cinema history"

Is it really like that for you?

Or is it just business? Like, you can ONLY license these titles, but you can't say that, so you're speaking about them in a romanticized way and attempting to identify with the average cinephile?

You obviously know your audience here.

Sometimes the way you speak lately seems a little disingenuous, because I know how you've spoken and acted about things in the past and it's just very different from your previous views on things.
I mean, I'm not crazy. And I'm not trying to stir up trouble with the loyalists, just asking a question.

[Member-222782]

Is Code Red handing over the reins to Dark Force? That's what it looks like to me

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by Cinema74

Is Code Red handing over the reins to Dark Force? That's what it looks like to me

What makes you say that?

[dawnofthediscs]

Also, Dave, did you get the chance to have a look at Clownhouse?

What did you think about it?


Did you text Coppola or call MGM about it yet?

Please status with us.

You're our only hope!!!!!!!!

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by dawnofthediscs

What makes you say that?

I don't have a definitive reason yet. Let this swim around in my head a while - I'll come up with an answer. Eventually.

[Marsupial Werewolf]

Originally Posted by Cinema74

I don't have a definitive reason yet. Let this swim around in my head a while - I'll come up with an answer. Eventually.

I've wondered the same.

Just a vibe I get from time to time.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by dawnofthediscs

Or is it just business?

For any for-profit business the primary goal is to make as much profit as possible. I think thats pretty obvious - if you believe otherwise about a certain company then that proves said company has great marketing.

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by Ruined

For any for-profit business the primary goal is to make as much profit as possible. I think thats pretty obvious - if you believe otherwise about a certain company then that proves said company has great marketing.

You get it!

I was asking because I didn't believe "Dark Force is now focusing on titles that we feel needed a revamping and reinsertion back into cinema history"
was true at all and it was indeed about releasing the ONLY titles they can get their hands on and trying to play it off like they actually care about and have an affinity for the titles they are releasing.

Thank you, Ruined!

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by dawnofthediscs

You get it!

I was asking because I didn't believe "Dark Force is now focusing on titles that we feel needed a revamping and reinsertion back into cinema history"
was true at all and it was indeed about releasing the ONLY titles they can get their hands on and trying to play it off like they actually care about and have an affinity for the titles they are releasing.

Thank you, Ruined!

Every company finds their hook with marketing messaging to the consumer. For instance some companies are able to sell boring arthouse films by marketing them as "important" & giving them new a/v transfers, extras, and attractive packaging. If you can find an audience and market well to them that is how you succeed.

Sometimes the hook is a combination of things owners of the company like and things that will make money, but in the end the goal needs to be profit in order to stay afloat

[dawnofthediscs]

https://books.google.com/books/conte...fife=w200-h300

[Ruined]

Blu ray seller wants to sell blu rays who woulda thunk?

[rillog]

Will Backlot Murders show up at Diabolik?

[splintersan]

Backlot is quickly becoming a rare collectible! The price is now $21.95