Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[CV19]

Originally Posted by alchav21

The key word is Profit, if the Profit Margin is maintained Discs will remain. No Industry wants to lose money, if the Profit Margin is not there that item will be cut. No Industry wants to lose money, If Discs aren't making their Profit Margins they are out!

Absolutely, that's the point I was making - as long as studios make a profit, discs will remain. No company wants to lose money, and they certainly won't continue to manufacture a product which doesn't show a good profit margin.

Judging by the number of new releases being announced regularly, not only by the major studios but also from the smaller independent labels, it appears they do still make money from their disc sales. And long may that continue.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by CV19

Ah yes, Ted Lowe I believe.

I can't remember who the snooker player was, but I think it was Ted Lowe as well who commented when the player was trying to balance himself with one leg on the snooker table and the other on the floor, and said something like "he was having trouble getting his leg over".

That’s the guy.

Snooker had loads of characters back then, it was great. It’s changed so much I rarely watch it now.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I buy 20+ titles on disc every month as you well know.

It never fails to amuse me when someone pops in to tell me that the product that I buy in such quantity so routinely is about to disappear. Somehow, I think I would notice the signs like there being less new product to choose from, for example. Instead there are more titles released year over year.

I am equally humored when a certain someone, who does not even buy discs, tries to tell me that they are getting more expensive. I can't help but think that I would have noticed spending more each month.

Prices are stable, bargains abound, and the selection, is, well, Fantastic!

It’s actually been a challenge not to spend over my limit these last couple of months. Several labels are hitting it out of the park. I thought I might struggle to get my 70-80 discs per year by December but I’m actually having to put some titles on the back burner. If I wasn't paying off a mortgage, I would probably be at 150 discs per year.

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I follow the Movie Industry very closely, and have AMC Stock that I hope should do well if Theaters open up. Discs on the other hand are a declining business, and the Market may not make any money.

Sharing Accounts should be okay, but only in the households not open to all the family and friends. This is also how Movies and Shows disappear, because the control can not be maintained properly.

What determines a Niche Market, and how will that survive. It all goes back to Marketing and Profit Margins. If people are not buying Discs to support this Niche Market it will not survive!

You keep talking about profitability of discs being a key driver of their sustainability, while at the same time disclosing that you invest in AMC stock who reported a net income loss in 2019 of $149 Million....which was before the pandemic.

How can you be such a clairvoyant by enthusiastically predicting physical media’s demise which is still very profitable, while at the same time contradicting yourself with your own money investing in a company who is upside down with their balance sheet before it got even really ugly?

https://www.subscriptioninsider.com/...ription-growth

[bhampton]

The rumor about Disney ending discs is completely unfounded and moreover unrealistic.

Disney puts out content on all formats disc, subscription, and online vendors like iTunes.

They have been amazing releasing so much to UHDBD.

I might never subscribe to D+ because they give me the option to buy the movies. Lease them and pay by the minute or buy them? For me it’s an easy choice.

[Vilya]

Having a dilemma. I can't decide if I should buy 30 Rock The Complete Series on blu-ray. I have never seen a single episode of this show. Is it worth a blind buy?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Having a dilemma. I can't decide if I should buy 30 Rock The Complete Series on blu-ray. I have never seen a single episode of this show. Is it worth a blind buy?

Nah, watch Twin Peaks The Return instead.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Nah, watch Twin Peaks The Return instead.

My buying schedule and viewing schedule are two different and distinct things.

I buy when the opportunity is good, but I decide what to watch spontaneously.

30 Rock is one of the victims of subscription streaming's self-censorship with four episodes having been removed entirely. The blu-ray series is intact, but the question remains is this a show worth owning? Will I loves it?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

In addition to 30 Rock being fantastic, it's worth buying to support sitcoms on Blu-ray since there are so few of them.

Ya sold me on it! I just placed my order at DeepDiscount.com for $58.99.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

If only everyone was that easy to convince then there would be way more titles available on Blu-ray.

Well, I am not exactly the hardest person to convince to make a blu-ray purchase. 7 seasons of content for $58.99 seemed like a pretty good deal, too.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by gotmule

You keep talking about profitability of discs being a key driver of their sustainability, while at the same time disclosing that you invest in AMC stock who reported a net income loss in 2019 of $149 Million....which was before the pandemic.

How can you be such a clairvoyant by enthusiastically predicting physical media’s demise which is still very profitable, while at the same time contradicting yourself with your own money investing in a company who is upside down with their balance sheet before it got even really ugly?

You're right, the Stock Market is a gamble unless you know the Companies and I have some Rock Solid Investments in the Telecoms with FTTH backed up with 5G. The basic premise is Buy Low, Sell High, and right now the Cinemas are at their lowest, but I believe The Studios won't let them down. The Cinemas are the biggest revenue stream for The Studios, and I'm counting on them to change, trim down, and come back strong. Like I said, the Distribution Model will change, and it will be the Cinema and Streaming Digital!

[CV19]

Originally Posted by alchav21

...Discs are on the way out!

I hope you won't take this the wrong way, but I'm curious as to why you have such a negative outlook on the future of discs. I appreciate it's your opinion, and I respect that. But I just find it odd why someone would participate in a forum dedicated to Blu-rays simply to continuously post comments about the apparent "death" of discs.

It may happen several years from now, and maybe not. Nobody can be sure. All we can do is support physical media as much as we can.

[bhampton]

He needs them to go away because sold all his and went streaming only.

With discs around, he has invested in the second class format and that’s not a good feeling.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Discs are on the way out!

Let me know when that happens, till then I can’t get enough of them.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Having a dilemma. I can't decide if I should buy 30 Rock The Complete Series on blu-ray. I have never seen a single episode of this show. Is it worth a blind buy?

I can never get into 30 Rock. It's supposed to be very good but to me it's just "very watchable" instead of "good", let alone "very good".

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by CV19

I hope you won't take this the wrong way, but I'm curious as to why you have such a negative outlook on the future of discs. I appreciate it's your opinion, and I respect that. But I just find it odd why someone would participate in a forum dedicated to Blu-rays simply to continuously post comments about the apparent "death" of discs.

It may happen several years from now, and maybe not. Nobody can be sure. All we can do is support physical media as much as we can.

It's like the "death of CD" mentioned by various outlets including What Hifi. 20 years later here I am still buying CDs.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

You're too late, he already bought it.

I thought physical media is dead?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You're right, the Stock Market is a gamble unless you know the Companies and I have some Rock Solid Investments in the Telecoms with FTTH backed up with 5G. The basic premise is Buy Low, Sell High, and right now the Cinemas are at their lowest, but I believe The Studios won't let them down. The Cinemas are the biggest revenue stream for The Studios, and I'm counting on them to change, trim down, and come back strong. Like I said, the Distribution Model will change, and it will be the Cinema and Streaming Digital......Discs are on the way out!

Now you are just back to trolling which is exactly how you began your tenure in this thread many years ago. You are one of the original trolls that were gleefully predicting the death of physical media as far back as 2015. You were wrong then as you are now and you will no doubt continue being wrong until you make your way out.

Originally Posted by alchav21

I know Master, I just like to Tweak these Disc Lovers so I kind of Embellish the information I have.

Originally Posted by alchav21

I guess you guys are talking about me.......Yes Discs RIP!

Remember how I summarized your long history of trolling comments? You may revisit them here:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=21950

We are getting more releases on disc each year and that is hardly an indicator of their imminent demise.

[Lee A Stewart]

Now and for the foreseeable future, discs represent a good revenue source for studios who are suffering from a lack of movie revenue due to the Pandemic. Once theaters reopen there is no guarantee consumers will go back to them in the numbers necessary to make big tentpole movies profitable.

The studios count on their theater revenue to at least break even on the total cost of their movies. Then all the other revenue streams which represent the lion's share of the profits made from a movie can represent pure profit.

Some have suggested going back to the old style of moving movies from premium theaters (NYC, LA) to secondary theaters (TX, FL) and finally to lower markets (MA, OH). That doesn't work when you have $300 million invested in the movie and marketing. It takes too long to recoup costs. That's why it changed to opening a movie in thousands of theaters in one weekend.

There will always be people who want to own high quality content. Yes that market continues to get smaller but it doesn't mean it will disappear as many seem to think it will. It just needs to find it's level off point. Unfortunately with the Pandemic comes substantially reduced extra cash for impulse buys like discs. Don't think that here at the BD Forum represents normal daily living. Far from it.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You're right, the Stock Market is a gamble unless you know the Companies and I have some Rock Solid Investments in the Telecoms with FTTH backed up with 5G. The basic premise is Buy Low, Sell High, and right now the Cinemas are at their lowest, but I believe The Studios won't let them down. The Cinemas are the biggest revenue stream for The Studios, and I'm counting on them to change, trim down, and come back strong. Like I said, the Distribution Model will change, and it will be the Cinema and Streaming Digital......Discs are on the way out!

Isn't it tiring to be singing the same song again over and over. Yep boring!