Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Wendell R. Breland]

Posted elsewhere but will ask the same here:

For UHD Netflix subs, could you check season 1 of Warrior Nun and season 2 of The Order for streaming speeds. In earlier times their UHD content was 16 Mbps then I started to see a lot of 15.1 Mbps. With Nun and Order the speed is 11.44 Mbps. Checked the Netflix servers using the test in the app and it showed 220 Mbps, my plan is 300 Mbps.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by flyry

I bought 5 things from the Criterion sale at BN Friday.

Was that a local purchase or online?

I have four titles in the cart but they are out of stock online and I can not select shipping as a purchase option so I will wait a few days.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Was that a local purchase or online?

I have four titles in the cart but they are out of stock online and I can not select shipping as a purchase option so I will wait a few days.

Local. I called the store on Thursday to hold the items for me

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Posted elsewhere but will ask the same here:

I watched it when Warrior Nun first came out. All the blacks and near blacks (and there were lots of scenes like that) were atrocious. It’s far from acceptable. Amazing Atmos mix, however.

I hope Netflix release it on Bluray so I can actually watch it without cringing.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Scared off? You mean they couldn’t handle the truth? They tried to justify why streaming was so great and when their arguments toppled, they left. A metaphor for digital itself.
Make a big noise, blow the trumpet then retreat to the hideout when the going gets tough. I give you UV, I give you Walmart, I give you Cinemanow, I give you disappearing movies, I give you downgraded resolution, I give you glitchy streaming, I give you inferior sound, I give you wrong aspect ratios, I give you dancing pixels, I give you picture break up with fast pans, I give you censored movies, I give you knee jerk executives, I give you bleeped swearing, I give you shaved bit rates, I give you waiting ten seconds for the picture to ‘firm up’, I give you inferior quality, I give you a los cause for HT enthusiasts.
No matter how great you think it is, we know different. How do we know? We are qualified to know as we own HT. some of us are more knowledgable than others but we all have a common aim. To replicate the cinema experience as closely as possible at home. You can’t do that with streaming, full stop (or period as you guys say)

Steedeel unleashed.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

I watched it when Warrior Nun first came out. All the blacks and near blacks (and there were lots of scenes like that) were atrocious. It’s far from acceptable. Amazing Atmos mix, however.

I hope Netflix release it on Bluray so I can actually watch it without cringing.

I think you are being unfair. If you sit in a boathouse outside, ensuring you are at least 30 feet away from the screen but can see through the window, and use binoculars, I think the picture will be pretty darn great and you won’t see many, if any artefacts!

[sapiendut]

Hahahahaha hahahahaha!!!!!!!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Steedeel unleashed.

I felt better for that!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I think you are being unfair. If you sit in a boathouse outside, ensuring you are at least 30 feet away from the screen but can see through the window, and use binoculars, I think the picture will be pretty darn great and you won’t see many, if any artefacts!

Lose the binoculars; they negate the benefit of sitting that far away.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Lose the binoculars; they negate the benefit of sitting that far away.

Unless you smudge them in potato peelings for that authentic experience!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Unless you smudge them in potato peelings for that authentic experience!

Potato peelings are what you clean your TV screen with. I thought everyone knew that.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

All the blacks and near blacks (and there were lots of scenes like that) were atrocious. It’s far from acceptable. Amazing Atmos mix, however.

Its just filler fluff before the actual movie is played. When streaming I just try to turn off video critiquing. In the bedroom we have a 43" LG, watch from 13 feet away, leave off my spectacles and it looks "fantastic".

Purchased Hammett via Amazon streaming (real cheap with coupon) and started playing via Shield Pro and it wold not make 1080 or 1080P, stopped and switched over to the Sony UBP-X1000 and it played in 1080P after a couple of seconds. From a hardware and app perspective streaming continues to be a giant CF.

As always, I would never buy a HD stream if the title was available on BD or UHD BD!!!

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

I watched it when Warrior Nun first came out. All the blacks and near blacks (and there were lots of scenes like that) were atrocious. It’s far from acceptable. Amazing Atmos mix, however.

This is a HD ATMOS/Dolby Vision shot with non-digital cameras. Yes you can see examples a scene requiring focus shifting because of dark environment. I am looking at this using a ATV4K to a OLED E6, and where a lot of people had displays where Arrival 4K UHD was moaned about the awful darkness issues I see a bit of the same, but I am not seeing much in the way of a lot of digital artifacts in these near black scenes. I watched about 30 mins of it so far.

What kind of setup were you using to view this dark content?

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Its just filler fluff before the actual movie is played. When streaming I just try to turn off video critiquing. In the bedroom we have a 43" LG, watch from 13 feet away, leave off my spectacles and it looks "fantastic". !

There are no 43" TVs that aren't crap IMHO, even most of those 49"" LCD/LED are poor. Taking off your glasses won't help.
The new 48" 4K OLED LG/SONY would be the first smaller TV's under 55" that does a good job of HD HDR playback.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

There are no 43" TVs that aren't crap IMHO, even most of those 49"" LCD/LED are poor. Taking off your glasses won't help.

In my case it does, not sure I could deal with it with spectacles on. A good part of what we watch on that set is old 1.33:1 stuff.

Serious watching is done in (camera is 27' from screen)

[Show spoiler]

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

In my case it does, not sure I could deal with it with spectacles on. A good part of what we watch on that set is old 1.33:1 stuff.

Serious watching is done in (camera is 27' from screen)

[Show spoiler]

Nice HT room. I have a smaller 32” RCA from the days just before TVs went Internet in bedroom. it was expensive back then, it used to watch some HD, some SD content. Wish they would come out with small sets that were quality with all the ability to have miniLED backlighting. I would pay for quality not the junk I see now for sale.

[alchav21]

I bought the Series Yellowstone on Amazon Prime, and I'm up to Season 3. Also watched Upload, having to do with VR and the after life that Steedeel should really enjoy. No problem on Quality they look and sound great. On Netflix I did watch some of The Old Guard, and the Will Ferrell Movie EuroVision both looked real good with no problems either.

[sapiendut]

Urgh. Lots of compression artefacts on Eurovision too especially on the sparkles of the fireworks and glitters. On the water movements too and some night scenes.

Just be thankful that you don’t know what too look for.

[Admiral]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Posted elsewhere but will ask the same here:

I just tested Warrior Nun and it's streaming at 15.25 mbps.

[Vilya]

I see that the US Movie Theaters are closing thread just got closed, again, and probably permanently this time. That thread saw more than a couple of people get banned.

People are too tense. I'm not saying that they don't have any reason to be, but going after each other on a forum doesn't seem to be an effective coping mechanism.

I recommend having a pizza delivered and watching a favorite movie, or two, or three, with one's nice home theater. Very relaxing.