SPECTRE Review Thread - Page 129 - Blu-ray Forum

V40LLY · 09-26-2015, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by megalith

the song and opening credits is the worst part of any bond movie. They need to stop doing that altogether.

wtf!!!!

dgoswald · 09-26-2015, 08:32 AM

Those knocking Dench's portrayal as M are a bit wide of the mark IMO, although I do agree that her soft side for Craig's Bond doesn't seem right. But then it would be boring if every actor to play M did it in the same style as the original guy back in the 60's, in terms of that stern, unforgiving schoolmaster type character. I still think he rocked though.

As most people know Dench wasn't picked to be Bond due to some kind of PC affirmative action. Back when Dench was picked to play M in GoldenEye, the real head of the intelligence services in the UK was also a woman for the first time in their history - Stella Rimington if my memory serves me correctly - so i guess it was natural for the film-makers to get in on that.

I did very much like the electrifying exchange between Mallory and M in Skyfall when he confronts M in the new MI6 hq, when he accuses her of being unable to see a problem with Bond, basically implying her judgement is impaired because she has a soft spot for him (not romantically). I thought the barely contained annoyance on Mallory's part was excellent.

tigertron · 09-26-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Eye Candy

Her best scene was in Skyfall, in the church..

This was her best scene.

HotRats · 09-26-2015, 09:36 AM

"Who's strangling the cat?" Sam Smith, that's who.

Why it sounds like Earth Song
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...arth-Song.html

jayman3 · 09-26-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SethRex

The song is actually growing on me.

It's starting to grow on me too. I just hope they don't overplay it on the radio before the film's release.

Doctor Jack · 09-26-2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HotRats

"Who's strangling the cat?" Sam Smith, that's who.

Why it sounds like Earth Song
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...arth-Song.html

Maybe this will become something and their will be a lawsuit and this song will need to be discarded and we can get a new song for Bond.

I know that won't happen, but it's nice to dream.

Geoff D · 09-26-2015, 01:45 PM

Sam Smith in 'elements of his song sounds mightily similar to another one' shocker. If only Jacko were alive, we'd have 'Michael Jackson versus James Bond' type headlines. I think he'd be the scariest baddie yet faced by Craig's 007! He'd have had the obligatory facial disfigurement for a Bond baddie too, although I'm not sure that him stroking his ageing chimp would be quite as cool as Blofeld's white cat.

dgoswald · 09-26-2015, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sam Smith in 'elements of his song sounds mightily similar to another one' shocker. If only Jacko were alive, we'd have 'Michael Jackson versus James Bond' type headlines. I think he'd be the scariest baddie yet faced by Craig's 007! He'd have had the obligatory facial disfigurement for a Bond baddie too, although I'm not sure that him stroking his ageing chimp would be quite as cool as Blofeld's white cat.

Moonraker... erm... Moonwalker.

chip75 · 09-26-2015, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sam Smith in 'elements of his song sounds mightily similar to another one' shocker. If only Jacko were alive, we'd have 'Michael Jackson versus James Bond' type headlines. I think he'd be the scariest baddie yet faced by Craig's 007!

Although Jackson would come pre-melted for his fiery demise ... so big Jim would be knocking off early in that movie.

V2David · 09-26-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jayman3

It's starting to grow on me too. I just hope they don't overplay it on the radio before the film's release.

The song is disappointing to say the least. There is a good song in there somewhere, but I just can't stand Sam Smith's vocals.

V2David · 09-26-2015, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jayman3

When I first listened to Sam Smith's song, I didn't like it at all. The whole song just doesn't feel like Bond. It's not the proper "theme" we are used to hearing.

I gave it another listen. And another. Followed by another. After listening to it for several other times and analyzing the lyrics, I finally realize something.

It's meant to have an emotional layer underneath it. The overall song is very sad and vulnerable. To me, it's the realization of trying to find love when James Bond just isn't sure if he deserves it. He's scared of love as oppose to constantly running from danger around every corner.

Yeah keep listening it to try to convince yourself you like it. Sam Smith should never been allowed to sing the Bond theme. We understand they want to make Bond vulnerable. This isn't anything new. But Sam Smith's style does not work.

imsounoriginal · 09-26-2015, 04:00 PM

Well it's not as bad as Another Way to Die. Hope it grows on me but it's underwhelming after one listen.

Panemlights · 09-26-2015, 05:32 PM

Yeah I agree. The song is pretty underwhelming. Sure, they might be going for something emotional, but there's gotta be something more interesting in it.

There's speculation that Lana Del Rey's song '24' on her new album was for the movie hence the 24. I don't know how much better or fitting it would be though.

Edit: After listening to Lana's song again, I can say that I very much prefer it over Sam's

i007spectre · 09-26-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Panemlights

Yeah I agree. The song is pretty underwhelming. Sure, they might be going for something emotional, but there's gotta be something more interesting in it.

There's speculation that Lana Del Rey's song '24' on her new album was for the movie hence the 24. I don't know how much better or fitting it would be though.

Listened to that. It wasnt too bad.

NP13 · 09-27-2015, 02:14 PM

Oh dear, Sam Smith.

dgoswald · 09-27-2015, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NP13

Oh dear, Sam Smith.

After listening to Sam Smith's Bond song I felt compelled to start destroying my cereal. Folk said I was a cereal killer.

dvdmike · 09-27-2015, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Well it's not as bad as Another Way to Die. Hope it grows on me but it's underwhelming after one listen.

That would be miles better wihtout Keys, they should have doubled White up

coolkev1701 · 09-27-2015, 02:40 PM

Great, sounds like we're getting another Quantum of Solace theme song. That thing is like nails on a chalkboard.

Ultra_Violence · 09-27-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dgoswald

After listening to Sam Smith's Bond song I felt compelled to start destroying my cereal. Folk said I was a cereal killer.

"The Spy Who Loved Me is brilliant. It begin in forest in Germany.."

"It's Austria. Austria!"

jayman3 · 09-27-2015, 03:16 PM

Much better sounding after you remove the lyrics.

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09-26-2015, 05:32 PM	#2573
Panemlights Senior Member Member since:Jul 2012 Location:NYC	Yeah I agree. The song is pretty underwhelming. Sure, they might be going for something emotional, but there's gotta be something more interesting in it. There's speculation that Lana Del Rey's song '24' on her new album was for the movie hence the 24. I don't know how much better or fitting it would be though. Edit: After listening to Lana's song again, I can say that I very much prefer it over Sam's Last edited by Panemlights; 09-26-2015 at 05:42 PM.

09-26-2015, 08:32 AM	#2562
dgoswald Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2015 Location:Erath Blu-ray collection:61	Those knocking Dench's portrayal as M are a bit wide of the mark IMO, although I do agree that her soft side for Craig's Bond doesn't seem right. But then it would be boring if every actor to play M did it in the same style as the original guy back in the 60's, in terms of that stern, unforgiving schoolmaster type character. I still think he rocked though. As most people know Dench wasn't picked to be Bond due to some kind of PC affirmative action. Back when Dench was picked to play M in GoldenEye, the real head of the intelligence services in the UK was also a woman for the first time in their history - Stella Rimington if my memory serves me correctly - so i guess it was natural for the film-makers to get in on that. I did very much like the electrifying exchange between Mallory and M in Skyfall when he confronts M in the new MI6 hq, when he accuses her of being unable to see a problem with Bond, basically implying her judgement is impaired because she has a soft spot for him (not romantically). I thought the barely contained annoyance on Mallory's part was excellent.

09-26-2015, 09:36 AM	#2564
HotRats Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009	"Who's strangling the cat?" Sam Smith, that's who. Why it sounds like Earth Song http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...arth-Song.html

09-26-2015, 01:45 PM	#2567
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1350 Blu-ray collection:2527 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Sam Smith in 'elements of his song sounds mightily similar to another one' shocker. If only Jacko were alive, we'd have 'Michael Jackson versus James Bond' type headlines. I think he'd be the scariest baddie yet faced by Craig's 007! He'd have had the obligatory facial disfigurement for a Bond baddie too, although I'm not sure that him stroking his ageing chimp would be quite as cool as Blofeld's white cat.

09-26-2015, 04:00 PM	#2572
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:322 Blu-ray collection:950 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	Well it's not as bad as Another Way to Die. Hope it grows on me but it's underwhelming after one listen.

09-27-2015, 02:14 PM	#2575
NP13 Special Member Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Aberystwyth Blu-ray collection:195 Trading Score:5	Oh dear, Sam Smith.

09-27-2015, 02:40 PM	#2578
coolkev1701 Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Tucson, AZ Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:810 Blu-ray collection:2231 DVD collection:158	Great, sounds like we're getting another Quantum of Solace theme song. That thing is like nails on a chalkboard.

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