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Old 09-05-2012, 02:53 AM   #241
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I would be willing to bet that I couldn't distinguish any difference whether it was on 100 or 110. Audyssey did set it to 110. The center channels job isn't to reproduce low frequencies anyway.

Not in the center you wont notice it much but your sub would be happy with more to play that is your subs job to play the lower stuff your speakers cant. Just because your center does not handle a signal below 110 or 100 it does not mean it is not in the soundtrack. My Center goes down to 50hz but I keep it on 70hz
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:01 AM   #242
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See what I mean. I never said anything about damaging the other 4 speakers. I'm done with the black hole guys. Sorry!
Sorry I misread it because I was confused about your statement of damaging the center. I didn't understand why it would damage the center.

We were getting somewhere too.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:06 AM   #243
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Sorry I misread it because I was confused about your statement of damaging the center. I didn't understand why it would damage the center.

We were getting somewhere too.
Sorry man you seem like a cool cat but it's time to quit this discussion on this forum anyways. If you want to continue this discussion send me a pm. Sorry to everyone in the thread if I caused any issues. I want to read more impressions of these seemingly cool subs!
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:08 AM   #244
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My denon receivers (if I remember correctly) don't have a crossover setting for . I can adjust the crossover frequency for each channel and anything below that frequency goes to the sub. On one of my setups the surrounds can only play down to 120, any sound info for the surrounds below 120 goes to the sub. This isn't ideal, but will remain that way until i get some better surrounds.
All that means is your sub is set to 120hz in receiver and you cant change. So if you go down on any of your speaker crossovers. It goes to sub by default unless you set your subs crossover knob below 120hz. Its not magic.

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Old 09-05-2012, 03:09 AM   #245
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I think the explanations aren't broken down far enough and it isn't because people are stupid,the communication barrier is broken down. So what you guys are saying is say my center is crossed over at 100 and my sub is at 80. If Darth Vader is talking some of the bass in his voice won't be accurate? Or if the sides are at 120,the bass from those won't get directed to the sub?
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:40 AM   #246
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So much for this being a PSA subwoofer thread. Now it's nothing more then a bunch of BS noise...
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I think the explanations aren't broken down far enough and it isn't because people are stupid,the communication barrier is broken down. So what you guys are saying is say my center is crossed over at 100 and my sub is at 80. If Darth Vader is talking some of the bass in his voice won't be accurate? Or if the sides are at 120,the bass from those won't get directed to the sub?
The channels are discrete, meaning entirely independent. If you set the center for 110Hz then 109Hz and down, of the signal sent to the center, goes to the sub. If your fronts are at 80Hz then 79Hz and down, of the signal sent to the fronts, goes to the sub. If your sides are at 120Hz then 119Hz and down, of the signal sent to the sides, goes to the sub. They are not all connected and don't use the same setting - they're entirely independent and managed by the receiver according. The LFE channel -- the .1 portion -- is complete separate, and has absolutely nothing to do with the crossover setting used for the other channels.

Sorry for the emphasis, it's definitely not directed at you. I just used your post so I could explain how it works. My ire is reserved for the person who keeps arguing a point they obviously know nothing about. I think we all realize who that is.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:52 AM   #247
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Well said jman!

That should clear it up (but probably will not!)

I am away until Saturday and I miss my sub's! I have battleship waiting for me at home, can't wait to hear how this sounds in my subs!

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Old 09-05-2012, 04:00 AM   #248
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[Show spoiler] So much for this being a PSA subwoofer thread. Now it's nothing more then a bunch of BS noise...
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The channels are discrete, meaning entirely independent. If you set the center for 110Hz then 109Hz and down, of the signal sent to the center, goes to the sub. If your fronts are at 80Hz then 79Hz and down, of the signal sent to the fronts, goes to the sub. If your sides are at 120Hz then 119Hz and down, of the signal sent to the sides, goes to the sub. They are not all connected and don't use the same setting - they're entirely independent and managed by the receiver according. The LFE channel -- the .1 portion -- is complete separate, and has absolutely nothing to do with the crossover setting used for the other channels.
[Show spoiler]

Sorry for the emphasis, it's definitely not directed at you. I just used your post so I could explain how it works. My ire is reserved for the person who keeps arguing a point they obviously know nothing about. I think we all realize who that is.
I think you explained it simply and perfectly.

I spent over an hour trying to help, but it was basically ignored: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=229

I don't have a PSA sub, but I would like to eventually get a pair of XV15's. They seem like a great performance/price ratio. I really hope you guys enjoy your awesome new subs and get everything set up to your satisfaction.
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:51 AM   #249
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So much for this being a PSA subwoofer thread. Now it's nothing more then a bunch of BS noise...
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The channels are discrete, meaning entirely independent. If you set the center for 110Hz then 109Hz and down, of the signal sent to the center, goes to the sub. If your fronts are at 80Hz then 79Hz and down, of the signal sent to the fronts, goes to the sub. If your sides are at 120Hz then 119Hz and down, of the signal sent to the sides, goes to the sub. They are not all connected and don't use the same setting - they're entirely independent and managed by the receiver according. The LFE channel -- the .1 portion -- is complete separate, and has absolutely nothing to do with the crossover setting used for the other channels.

Sorry for the emphasis, it's definitely not directed at you. I just used your post so I could explain how it works. My ire is reserved for the person who keeps arguing a point they obviously know nothing about. I think we all realize who that is.
You can't say it any better than that. End of discussion. Time to talk about our subs
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:39 AM   #250
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To get back on topic....

I'm still in Awe on how good the XV15 sounds when listening to Music

Been listening to alot of Acoustic, Bluegrass, Jazz, & Soundboard recordings, and i'm just astonished on the clarity of the ability to hear & feel the stand-up bass, bass guitar, and/or bass drum!!
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:59 AM   #251
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To get back on topic....

I'm still in Awe on how good the XV15 sounds when listening to Music

Been listening to alot of Acoustic, Bluegrass, Jazz, & Soundboard recordings, and i'm just astonished on the clarity of the ability to hear & feel the stand-up bass, bass guitar, and/or bass drum!!
For a ported sub, it has to have the best music accuracy of anything I've heard.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:04 PM   #252
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For a ported sub, it has to have the best music accuracy of anything I've heard.
I would be interested in hearing how it stacks up musically to the HSU vtf-15 in anybody has compared the two. I feel the same way you do about how good a ported sub can sound musically.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:19 PM   #253
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I don't have a PSA sub, but I would like to eventually get a pair of XV15's. They seem like a great performance/price ratio. I really hope you guys enjoy your awesome new subs and get everything set up to your satisfaction.
I've found the XS15 to be an outstanding value, so I imagine the XV15 would be as well. Let's hope Tom V doesn't realize that...
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I've found the XS15 to be an outstanding value, so I imagine the XV15 would be as well. Let's hope Tom V doesn't realize that...
Shhhh.... *cough* Not before I buy my second
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For music do you guy's plug the port?? I know some people were with the HSU.
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For music do you guy's plug the port??
No, and it's not an option......
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:33 PM   #257
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I'm in awe at how tight the sound is with music. I still think it has something to do with being down firing. I was watching Ironman last night,I had my speakers all set to 80hz. Sounded absolutely awesome! The bass from that sub makes the system! I can't image what 2 would do.. I need to fire up Tron Legacy tonight after the football game. My brother is loving my Epik legend.
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So much for this being a PSA subwoofer thread. Now it's nothing more then a bunch of BS noise...
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The channels are discrete, meaning entirely independent. If you set the center for 110Hz then 109Hz and down, of the signal sent to the center, goes to the sub. If your fronts are at 80Hz then 79Hz and down, of the signal sent to the fronts, goes to the sub. If your sides are at 120Hz then 119Hz and down, of the signal sent to the sides, goes to the sub. They are not all connected and don't use the same setting - they're entirely independent and managed by the receiver according. The LFE channel -- the .1 portion -- is complete separate, and has absolutely nothing to do with the crossover setting used for the other channels.

Sorry for the emphasis, it's definitely not directed at you. I just used your post so I could explain how it works. My ire is reserved for the person who keeps arguing a point they obviously know nothing about. I think we all realize who that is.
I hate to start this debate. I know this is a Sub Thread. But All this info being spewed is making my head spin and I dont know who to ask. So Mreilly if you could please stay away from not getting involved. We dont need the back on forth. Thanks. I just have one question. On the example above you dont mention what the sub is set to or needs to be on and the same with the receiver LPF on LFE. 120Hz?
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:20 PM   #259
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Shhhh.... *cough* Not before I buy my second
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=712

I am really interested in hearing this beast

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I hate to start this debate. I know this is a Sub Thread. But All this info being spewed is making my head spin and I dont know who to ask. So Mreilly if you could please stay away from not getting involved. We dont need the back on forth. Thanks. I just have one question. On the example above you dont mention what the sub is set to or needs to be on and the same with the receiver LPF on LFE. 120Hz?
Follow Big Daddy's sticky quoted in Reilly's post at the top of the previous page.
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