First Blood / Rambo: First Blood Part II / Rambo III 4K UHDs (1982-1988)

[Brian81]

Niceee would love to cut back on how many copies I have with a single good set (plus my HD DVDs and First Blood DVHS which I keep as a format novelty at this point.

[Markgway]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Those look delicious.

Although I prefer this art for R-III.



If we could get them separated I'd probably sell off Part V.

[Daz_85]

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by Cliff

Ugh... Fine. This will be the only post I make and there will be no follow up because I no longer post/participate at Blu-ray.com. I was banned twice by some anonymous mod after refusing to play nice with people who clearly like to cause trouble. I don't need the aggravation and have spent the better part of two years deleting my posting history.

BUT... I'm the one working on the upcoming LG Rambo set and I'm the source of both Geoff's and PeterTHX's info. Here's everything I can tell you at this point in time and, again, there will be no follow up.

All five films with both the theatrical and extended cuts of Rambo and Last Blood (Last Blood will be the final cut that appeared on Amazon).

New Dolby Vision grading on 1-3 (Rambo III is particularly in need of correction as it's colors are not only off, but it's highlights are terribly clipped. We're fixing that.)

Rambo III's subtitles are also being corrected and, while they'll be player generated, they're designed to match the font and timing of the optical theatrical subs. One thing to note about Rambo III's subs is that a lot of what people THOUGHT was subtitled originally, WASN'T. This has led to a lot of confusion about various releases missing them and one of the Blu-ray releases actually ADDING them when they weren't there theatrically. We're fixing all that and if it was subtitled theatrically... it'll be subtitled on the UHD.

1-3 have all been given brand new Dolby Atmos mixes. Part II, in particular, has sounded terrible for 20 years. We found the original 70mm 6-track mag for Part II and that was the basis for the new Atmos mix. But each of the first three movies will include: Theatrical Stereo PCM, TrueHD 5.1 (the 2002 mixes for First Blood and Rambo III and the unaltered 70mm 6-track for Rambo II) and the new Atmos mixes. Rambo: First Blood Part II sounds INCREDIBLE now... both it's original 6 track mix and the new Atmos. It's night and day and probably the thing I'm most excited about with this set.

We're looking to include EVERYTHING that was ever created for any of the various Rambo releases (globally) in the special features department. We're also creating a few new bits and one of those is dedicated to the original Drew Struzan art.

This release has been my baby for over a year and I've been dedicated to making sure this gets produced from the perspective of a fan and the Ghostbusters set that Sony put out earlier this year has been the model for this all along. Packaging is likely to be more of a gatefold style, but we've also secured the original lobby cards for the first three films and I'm hoping to talk to the studio into also including preprinted case inserts that use all the "style A" artwork so you could migrate the set to traditional cases if desired.

Everyone is completely committed to making this the very best Rambo set ever released which is why we missed the First Blood 40th (which was the plan) to give ourselves enough time to get all the details right.


So... that's it and that's everything that'll be said for now.

Sounds fantastic Cliff.

My only extra request (if I may), is that the Extended Cut footage for Rambo 2018 match the colour grading of the original more precisely than it does on the prior releases. It's quite jarring on the original Blu-ray when it cuts back and forth.

[DaylightsEnd]

Going back today and re-watching the 2018 USA 4k releases for First Blood and Rambo II, it's immediately apparent just how far some of the boutiques have come with fine-tuning their more recent 4k uhd platform releases, and it's also readily apparent just how desperately these Rambo franchise films are begging for this deluxe set treatment, with hopeful remasters and corrected audio and subtitles. As usual, watching First Blood blew me away, again, for about the 200th time. This ultimate box set can't happen fast enough.

[Brian81]

Originally Posted by Markgway

Those look delicious.

Although I prefer this art for R-III.

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If we could get them separated I'd probably sell off Part V.

I also think it is a better art, but it's not the US art and I think the one that Geoff posted 'fits' better with the US art for II.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

SC can do all kinds of amazeball remastering efforts on the Rambo films, but if they don't improve their compression jobs by 1,000 fold, it won't make a lick of difference.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Did you not read what you quoted? It's provisionally a digipak BUT it will possibly come with five cover inserts showing OG art so you can make up your own regular-case versions, unofficial mock-up below:

.... I think I just filled the cup.

[batman2000]

Are they working on avoiding the compression issues too I’m asking people who are close to the project who might know.

[DR Herbert West]

Lionsgate should be doing the compression. Not too worried about the encodes.

[jrcorwin3]

Originally Posted by johnjohnson

Will these be in Amray style boxes, do we have to suffer another digipak? I hope it's the former.

The only important bit is the disc inside.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Lionsgate should be doing the compression. Not too worried about the encodes.

It depends on what deal Lionsgate struck with Studio Canal... are they encoding the video themselves or is it a direct port from SC files?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

It depends on what deal Lionsgate struck with Studio Canal... are they encoding the video themselves or is it a direct port from SC files?

Aside from the underlying rights and usage of existing 4K masters (not encodes, masters) this has nothing to do with StudioCanal, all the creative decisions like Atmos remixing, colour grading tweaks etc are being made from Lionsgate's end.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Aside from the underlying rights and usage of existing 4K masters (not encodes, masters) this has nothing to do with StudioCanal, all the creative decisions like Atmos remixing, colour grading tweaks etc are being made from Lionsgate's end.

Then you are saying there is still hope.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Then you are saying there is still hope.

Did you not read Cliff's post? We're not making this up!

Originally Posted by Cliff

Ugh... Fine. This will be the only post I make and there will be no follow up because I no longer post/participate at Blu-ray.com. I was banned twice by some anonymous mod after refusing to play nice with people who clearly like to cause trouble. I don't need the aggravation and have spent the better part of two years deleting my posting history.

BUT... I'm the one working on the upcoming LG Rambo set and I'm the source of both Geoff's and PeterTHX's info. Here's everything I can tell you at this point in time and, again, there will be no follow up.

All five films with both the theatrical and extended cuts of Rambo and Last Blood (Last Blood will be the final cut that appeared on Amazon).

New Dolby Vision grading on 1-3 (Rambo III is particularly in need of correction as it's colors are not only off, but it's highlights are terribly clipped. We're fixing that.)

Rambo III's subtitles are also being corrected and, while they'll be player generated, they're designed to match the font and timing of the optical theatrical subs. One thing to note about Rambo III's subs is that a lot of what people THOUGHT was subtitled originally, WASN'T. This has led to a lot of confusion about various releases missing them and one of the Blu-ray releases actually ADDING them when they weren't there theatrically. We're fixing all that and if it was subtitled theatrically... it'll be subtitled on the UHD.

1-3 have all been given brand new Dolby Atmos mixes. Part II, in particular, has sounded terrible for 20 years. We found the original 70mm 6-track mag for Part II and that was the basis for the new Atmos mix. But each of the first three movies will include: Theatrical Stereo PCM, TrueHD 5.1 (the 2002 mixes for First Blood and Rambo III and the unaltered 70mm 6-track for Rambo II) and the new Atmos mixes. Rambo: First Blood Part II sounds INCREDIBLE now... both it's original 6 track mix and the new Atmos. It's night and day and probably the thing I'm most excited about with this set.

We're looking to include EVERYTHING that was ever created for any of the various Rambo releases (globally) in the special features department. We're also creating a few new bits and one of those is dedicated to the original Drew Struzan art.

This release has been my baby for over a year and I've been dedicated to making sure this gets produced from the perspective of a fan and the Ghostbusters set that Sony put out earlier this year has been the model for this all along. Packaging is likely to be more of a gatefold style, but we've also secured the original lobby cards for the first three films and I'm hoping to talk to the studio into also including preprinted case inserts that use all the "style A" artwork so you could migrate the set to traditional cases if desired.

Everyone is completely committed to making this the very best Rambo set ever released which is why we missed the First Blood 40th (which was the plan) to give ourselves enough time to get all the details right.


So... that's it and that's everything that'll be said for now.

[Mister_Kidd]

Glad I checked this thread. Just came really close to pulling the trigger on the old versions that are going of for $5.99 a piece right now.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by Mister_Kidd

Glad I checked this thread. Just came really close to pulling the trigger on the old versions that are going of for $5.99 a piece right now.

Oh man..I did not know new cuts were being worked on. I just ordered Part II.

[VIDEOgameDROME]

Awesome news. I'll wait to import the first 3 now. I was hoping they'd fix them.

[sfmarine]

Canceled my order.

[Telemachus]

Dolby Vision

[MidnightHunter]

Got Rambo 1-4 for pickup at $5.99 each, but seeing these comments of a revised set. gah. Really only care for 1 the most (I know), but seeing the caps on these, yikes.