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Originally Posted by Cevolution
In that case, you need to spend a bit more time on researching... However I don't think that is really true either, and is easy to refute from going through your collection (there are titles in your collection that were released overseas before the U.S. version that you own was released, and it was well established that an international version existed which is superior in regards to P/AQ, in discussions in the U.S. threads for said titles). You have hardly any international titles in your collection... I think like most people, in many cases you simply buy what is the most easily obtainable, which is what is available to you domestically, and also that you make many of your purchasing decision heavily based on price. There is nothing wrong with that, I'm simply pointing out that you are not really that different from people that prefer streaming... The cost, and being able to view content in the easiest and quickest way, is how they make their decisions too.
That's not necessarily true either, for instance, some titles that David M encodes, sometimes have lower video rates compared to other versions, but the compression is superior... This doesn't mean that mistakes were made or that the disc is defective in anyway with the other version that David M didn't do, he is just very talented and better at it, than many others that do the encoding for a lot of other companies.
The topic isn't about DNR, or any other issues, it's about encoding, which you acknowledged and agreed needs to be evaluated on case by case basis.
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You not only like to split hairs, you want to break them down to the atomic level. Beware the wall of text that follows!
Even I am unwilling to read it. Save yourself and just reply with "TLDR."
I have only had all region capability for a couple of years. Many of my imports are region free, too, so you can't just look at my region B discs and assume that is all that I have imported. As for talk about international editions having better PQ/AQ in the U.S. threads, those are often just the opinions of a few forum members who, surprise, live outside the U.S. I am not going to wait longer and spend more to import a disc based just upon the opinions of a few forum members whom I know nothing about. To this day, we have forum members that insist that the entire 4K format, disc or digital, is a scam. I don't take advice from just anyone.
Generally, when considering a disc purchase I do not visit their threads as they often contain spoilers and a vast array of opinions about anything and everything. I am seldom interested in wading through pages of comments about the shipping statuses of people's orders and other such minutiae. I consider these threads to be more anecdotal than factual. There are some informative posts among all the noise, but finding those few worthwhile comments is like panning for gold while blindfolded.
I consider myself to be extremely dissimilar to the typical streaming customer. I suspect that your assertion to the contrary is designed to be provocative, but I will play along as I have nothing better to do at this late hour.
In addition to the quality advantage of physical media, I prize owning an unchangeable and permanent disc that is in my actual possession. I place great importance upon artistic integrity; streamers not so much; they do not care if content is edited, self-censored, or even removed altogether so long as they have convenient access to a lot of stuff for a very low price.
When it comes to movies and TV shows, what I want determines what I buy, not the cost. My average spending for discs is $500 per month and that level of spending, that amount of passion for movies and TV shows, is not representative of most streaming customers. Or most anyone for that matter.
I once owned 1200 titles on laserdisc and it was common for me to pay $99.99 to $124.99 each for a Criterion CAV release; those are prices from the 1990s, too, so when adjusted for inflation that amount is far greater. The point here is that few people were ever willing to spend that kind of money to own movies in the best available quality; I have pursued that objective for over 35 years.
I love a sale and a bargain as much as anyone and I would be a
not to take advantage of them, but I pay release day prices far more often. I even pay OOP prices as necessary. I am confident that I know what prices I pay and how often I pay them.
I can assure you that I know what motivates my purchase behavior far better than you do. When I buy a new addition to my collection, I believe that I am buying the best edition available as that has been my longstanding goal. I won't always be right, but there will always be people like you to tell me that I am wrong. I am open to reconsidering my decisions, but not upon your word alone. All I know about you is that you have nice taste in shelves.
There is nothing that you can say that will convince me that more compression, lower bitrates, is advantageous to the quality of the encode. Yes, some people are quite skilled at compressing data, but their work would look even better if they were not so constrained. Lowering bitrates does not produce better results; it risks the introduction of more obvious compression artifacts. Lowering bitrates is not done for the sake of quality, but for economy.
The amount of compression used affects the quality of the end product, but so do other things and that is why other aspects, like the usage of DNR, are important.
T2 on 4K disc uses a better codec, has a much higher bitrate than any release before it, but it still looks worse than the 2015 blu-ray release according to the overwhelming consensus of our fellow forum members.
You kind of come across as condescending in your replies to not only me, but also earlier with Ender14. Maybe you just enjoy playing devil's advocate; arguing just to argue? If someone told you that liquid water was wet, you'd probably contest the comment.
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; I saw your post over in the Aussie threads.
I suspect that I will be doing this for as long as I live.
to halve bit rates while keeping the (apparent) same quality. They are going through their 4K stuff now I think. If they shave any more bits off, the picture might break altogether.
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