Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Hey I like the way you guys have been going at it. Even though Cevolution prefers Quality Discs, he also sees the benefits of good Streaming. I dropped back from 4K to HD on Netflix Streaming because of cost. Right now I'm watching Away and Cobra Kai on Netflix, and the Quality is Superb! Thanks Cevolution for the Support!

Probably a good thing considering Netflix are apparently hammering the 4K encodes and some are complaining of a obvious dip in quality. So people are paying for the higher res and receiving a poorer stream for their money. That really sucks Netflix.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Hey I like the way you guys have been going at it. Even though Cevolution prefers Quality Discs, he also sees the benefits of good Streaming. I dropped back from 4K to HD on Netflix Streaming because of cost. Right now I'm watching Away and Cobra Kai on Netflix, and the Quality is Superb! Thanks Cevolution for the Support!

I see the benefits of streaming. I stream content and I have a digital collection comparable to your own. I would not bother if I thought streaming was terrible. I also share my digital collection with my sequestered friends; I really enjoy being able to do that during times as depressing as these. I even outright purchased some digital titles that I thought that they would enjoy.

I hope that your downgrading of Netflix to HD is not the result of financial difficulties.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I see the benefits of streaming. I stream content and I have a digital collection comparable to your own. I would not bother if I thought streaming was terrible. I also share my digital collection with my sequestered friends.

I hope that your downgrading of Netflix to HD is not the result of financial difficulties.

It’s probably so he doesn’t get asked to compare old 4K Netflix with the new and shittier 4K Netflix.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s probably so he doesn’t get asked to compare old 4K Netflix with the new and shittier 4K Netflix.

Maybe he is saving up to buy a 4K disc player?

Maybe he is using the savings to buy digital titles instead? Which seems more probable? It's a mystery!

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Maybe he is saving up to buy a 4K disc player?

Maybe he is using the savings to buy digital titles instead? Which seems more probable? It's a mystery!

No mystery, IMO I don't see a big difference from HD to 4K. I don't have anything in SD anymore in my Digital Collection because I can really tell the difference there. So from my 750 Movies in my Digital Collection about quarter of them are 4K, and I upgrade when the price is right. I just enjoy the Movies and TV Shows, and don't worry about the resolution. With my setup I don't need or want an outdated 4K player!

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Can people not just enjoy films anymore? ******** sick of all the ‘outrage’ brigade. Get a life!

More stupidity.

U.S. lawmakers urge Disney CEO to clarify Chinese government's connection to Mulan - EW 9/12/20

A bipartisan group of U.S. lawmakers sent a letter to Disney CEO Bob Chapek on Friday, addressing renewed controversy over the studio's live-action remake of Mulan. The letter urged Chapek to clarify the Chinese government's involvement in the film's production, and the degree to which Disney was aware of reported human rights violations in regions where filming took place.

Disney CFO Christine M. McCarthy spoke briefly about the controversy at a Bank of America conference on Thursday, explaining that Mulan shot Chinese scenery “to accurately depict some of the unique landscape and geography for this historic period drama." (Most of the film was shot in New Zealand; the footage filmed in Xinjiang apparently consists entirely of landscape shots.) McCarthy also "noted that it was common practice in Hollywood to credit government entities that allowed filming to take place," per the Times.

One commentator in the feedback said it best

Evan Montgomery
Good lord. It's just a movie. It's not Disney's responsiblity to rid the world of human rights violations. If studios are expected to ensure the holiness of every single person or place connected with a movie, then none would be made.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

No mystery, IMO I don't see a big difference from HD to 4K. I don't have anything in SD anymore in my Digital Collection because I can really tell the difference there. So from my 750 Movies in my Digital Collection about quarter of them are 4K, and I upgrade when the price is right. I just enjoy the Movies and TV Shows, and don't worry about the resolution. With my setup I don't need or want an outdated 4K player!

If you don't see a big enough difference between HD streaming and 4K streaming to pay the extra $3 per month to get it on Netflix, a service that you use a lot, then why is it important to you to spend even more money upgrading titles in your digital collection to 4K?

Not even three months ago you said:

Originally Posted by alchav21

... check out 4K Digital Streaming. It might be this is all you will need, for that Fantastic PQ Experience!

In that short time you have gone from saying that 4K streaming offered a "Fantastic" experience to now saying that you don't see much of a difference between it and HD streaming. Changing your assessment from "Fantastic" to in the span of 75 days is rather odd.

If anything is becoming outdated, it is streaming in HD when you have the option to stream in 4K.

Anyway, I'm glad that your decision to downgrade your Netflix is not due to any hardship.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

More stupidity.

[Show spoiler]U.S. lawmakers urge Disney CEO to clarify Chinese government's connection to Mulan - EW 9/12/20






One commentator in the feedback said it best

It's only going to get worse. It is as if people are looking for reasons to be offended.

If there is any way that Disney can "sanitize" this movie, they will. Disney aims to appease.

[Admiral]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I have seen now there is a version where you do it yourself but when my daughter had it done it looked painful and it was shoved. I think I could do it without hurting myself but another person wouldn’t be getting much feedback from the jab.

I don't think it would be a good idea to attempt to do it yourself. The medical professionals performing the tests should be experienced enough to cause the least amount of discomfort. The sensation caused by the cotton bud activates the tear ducts, so to an observer it may look worse than it actually is.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It's only going to get worse. It is as if people are looking for reasons to be offended.

If there is any way that Disney can "sanitize" this movie, they will. Disney aims to appease.

It boils my blood.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Admiral

I don't think it would be a good idea to attempt to do it yourself. The medical professionals performing the tests should be experienced enough to cause the least amount of discomfort. The sensation caused by the cotton bud activates the tear ducts, so to an observer it may look worse than it actually is.

We didn’t have the choice. We were given the package and told to drive to the other side of the car park. There were guys helping out, but we had to do the procedure ourselves.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

No mystery, IMO I don't see a big difference from HD to 4K. I don't have anything in SD anymore in my Digital Collection because I can really tell the difference there. So from my 750 Movies in my Digital Collection about quarter of them are 4K, and I upgrade when the price is right. I just enjoy the Movies and TV Shows, and don't worry about the resolution. With my setup I don't need or want an outdated 4K player!

So digital is ‘outstanding‘ and the quality can rival disc but you don't see a difference with HD and 4K? What a load of tosh, you have just voided most of your posts over the last few years with such a comment.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

More stupidity.

U.S. lawmakers urge Disney CEO to clarify Chinese government's connection to Mulan - EW 9/12/20






One commentator in the feedback said it best

We live in a bizarre world where people somehow feel more important by having a hissy fit about random films. I think it’s a comment about those individuals low self esteem or possible mental illness.

[Admiral]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

We didn’t have the choice. We were given the package and told to drive to the other side of the car park. There were guys helping out, but we had to do the procedure ourselves.

Interesting. I've had a few tests, but I wouldn't want to have to do it myself.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Admiral

Interesting. I've had a few tests, but I wouldn't want to have to do it myself.

It was a little awkward, would have preferred staff to do it. There is obviously a shortage though and I was just relieved I got it done.

Over to my sister now, she was too ill to get it done yesterday but she has a slot for today. Fingers crossed.

I work with a lad with special needs (social care) so I’m worried sick about my own family but also him and ‘his’.

[Admiral]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It was a little awkward, would have preferred staff to do it. There is obviously a shortage though and I was just relieved I got it done.

Over to my sister now, she was too ill to get it done yesterday but she has a slot for today. Fingers crossed.

I work with a lad with special needs (social care) so I’m worried sick about my own family but also him and ‘his’.

I wish you and your family all the best. Hopefully the tests are negative.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by admiral

i wish you and your family all the best. Hopefully the tests are negative.

👍👍👍

[bhampton]

I certainly would say iTunes 4K is a noticeable upgrade from iTunes hd.

I haven’t had Netflix in many years, maybe a decade. The arrogance of Qwikster and raising prices will lowering quality annoyed me. I have my neighbors password but I don’t even bother with it. (She lives alone but pays for 2 devices or screens at a time.)

iTunes hd can result in older encodes and may lack their version of ATMOS.

Even amazon Prime UHD is noticeably better then HD but they will post very bad quality HD just to have more things available to watch. (Again the 4K is often newer.)

Watch in real time as a million people sign a petition to cancel Netflix over hosting the controversial film Cuties.

https://www.salon.com/2020/09/12/can...f-young-girls/

https://www.change.org/p/let-s-cance...eaming-options

I haven’t seen the film but I’ve read it’s disturbing. I’m tired of cancel culture but this film may actually be illegal by USA content standards.

Brian

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I certainly would say iTunes 4K is a noticeable upgrade from iTunes hd.

I haven’t had Netflix in many years, maybe a decade. I have my neighbors password but I don’t even bother with it. (She lives alone but pays for 2 devices or screens at a time.)

iTunes hd can result in older encodes and may lack their version of ATMOS.

Even amazon Prime UHD is noticeably better then HD but they will post very bad quality HD just to have more things available to watch. (Again the 4K is often newer.)

Watch in real time as a million people sign a petition to cancel Netflix over hosting the controversial film Cuties.

https://www.salon.com/2020/09/12/can...f-young-girls/

https://www.change.org/p/let-s-cance...eaming-options

I haven’t seen the film but I’ve read it’s disturbing.

Brian

Most people signing that petition won’t have seen the film either lol. I think people lack common sense these days. Just Don't watch it if you feel that strong (not you, the people in question) It looks like Netflix made a mistake, it’s going to happen when they allow creatives some freedom, the alternative is a sanitised, boring selection of ‘safe’ film and tv.
Wanting to cancel a complete streaming service over this mistake is a bit weird.

[bhampton]

I read it contains actual naked 11 year olds. Maybe only for seconds. Edit - apparently it does not.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9196192...dvisory-nudity

If it doesn’t have child nudity then I guess this is just good old American Squeamishness.

-Brian