The British & Irish Football Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wes Blu-ray

I did say virtually all in Holland...not everything.

Little reality check here...that club will never see the success it's had for the last 2 decades ever again, mark my words.

Ferguson was and will always be irreplaceable, Moyes lasting months in the job has proved that.

They can put whoever they want in the hot seat...past successes won't ever be repeated like that again.

Agreed.

[Wes Blu-ray]

Originally Posted by Villiam Hayes

Utd are set up very well,even with the debt

I'm sure fans all over the world believe their respected clubs are "set up very well" with debt.

As long as the Glazer clan remain there, the debt will just continue to rise.

It sickens me how teams such as Man Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc, despite being hundreds of millions of pounds in debt, can still go out and spend £30 - £40 million here and there on whoever they want, and happily pay out hundreds of thousands of pounds a week in wages.

This is why FFP is an absolute joke, and furthur more, for clubs outside the top flight is completely unworkable.

[Villiam Hayes]

Originally Posted by Wes Blu-ray

I'm sure fans all over the world believe their respected clubs are "set up very well" with debt.

As long as the Glazer clan remain there, the debt will just continue to rise.

It sickens me how teams such as Man Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc, despite being hundreds of millions of pounds in debt, can still go out and spend £30 - £40 million here and there on whoever they want, and happily pay out hundreds of thousands of pounds a week in wages.

This is why FFP is an absolute joke, and furthur more, for clubs outside the top flight is completely unworkable.

But Utd's debt is being reduced every year and if it hadn't been for the world wide financial crash,it would have been a lot less.

The big clubs can afford it,that's the simple fact,they're turnover is huge,transfers and wages are just a part of the overall financial incomings and outgoings.

The Glazers for all their bad press are very good at striking new partnerships and getting Utd more millions in all sorts of deals world wide.

[Wes Blu-ray]

Originally Posted by Villiam Hayes

But Utd's debt is being reduced every year and if it hadn't been for the world wide financial crash,it would have been a lot less.

The big clubs can afford it,that's the simple fact,they're turnover is huge,transfers and wages are just a part of the overall financial incomings and outgoings.

The Glazers for all their bad press are very good at striking new partnerships and getting Utd more millions in all sorts of deals world wide.

The only way big clubs are going to learn, is when the Bubble bursts, and when that time comes, it will be to late.

The world of Football as we know it is no longer about "The Beauitful Game", it's only about one thing...money.

FIFA are an absolute joke, because they have rules and guidelines supposedly "set in stone", yet when clubs such as Man City and PSG are found to have broken Financial Rules, they get hit with a so called HUGE fine, which we all know is loose change to their respected owners, and their Champions League Squads slightly cut. They do not care for lower league clubs whatsoever...and it's those lower league clubs that really matter...becaus they are the one's who will suffer the most because, as I pointed out in my last post....FFP as it is, for lower league clubs is completely and utterly unworkable.

[Villiam Hayes]

Originally Posted by Wes Blu-ray

The only way big clubs are going to learn, is when the Bubble bursts, and when that time comes, it will be to late.

The world of Football as we know it is no longer about "The Beauitful Game", it's only about one thing...money.

FIFA are an absolute joke, because they have rules and guidelines supposedly "set in stone", yet when clubs such as Man City and PSG are found to have broken Financial Rules, they get hit with a so called HUGE fine, which we all know is loose change to their respected owners, and their Champions League Squads slightly cut. They do not care for lower league clubs whatsoever...and it's those lower league clubs that really matter...becaus they are the one's who will suffer the most because, as I pointed out in my last post....FFP as it is, for lower league clubs is completely and utterly unworkable.

I agree with most of that but not sure the bubble will burst for the big clubs,it's the ones lower down who will probably suffer,it goes back to my point about the FA cup,as you say,it's more about the money now and staying in the PL is more important than winning a cup,maybe not to all the fans but the running of the club in general.

The fines handed out were a joke,steedeel and me mentioned on here previously.

The game has well and truely changed but that's the way it is now....what do ya do?

[David LFC]

This Yaya Toure story is a joke. Not happy because club didn't wish him happy birthday or send cake and flowers hahaha comical.

[Wes Blu-ray]

Originally Posted by David LFC

This Yaya Toure story is a joke. Not happy because club didn't wish him happy birthday or send cake and flowers hahaha comical.

Totally agree.

Couldn't believe it when I read the story earlier today...absolute joke.

[David LFC]

Originally Posted by Wes Blu-ray

Totally agree.

Couldn't believe it when I read the story earlier today...absolute joke.

Strange way to go about getting a big pay rise or looking to move back to Barca or PSG/Monaco.

[tob]

Originally Posted by David LFC

Strange way to go about getting a big pay rise or looking to move back to Barca or PSG/Monaco.

Good player but a selfish attitude like most modern day players he just wants a way out of Man.city.

[Wes Blu-ray]

Originally Posted by David LFC

Strange way to go about getting a big pay rise or looking to move back to Barca or PSG/Monaco.

Agreed. It's obvious that his agent is thinking up all sorts of things to push through a move back to Barcelona.

On the subject of Barca, I would imagine, after the season that Toure has had, that they are kicking themselves for letting him go in the first place.

[Wes Blu-ray]

Originally Posted by tob

Good player but a selfish attitude like most modern day players he just wants a way out of Man.city.

Agreed.

The rumours about his future at City have been going on for a good while now.

OT...love the new avatar Tob, a nice shot of my fellow countryman Ramsey with the F.A. Cup

[Villiam Hayes]

Originally Posted by Wes Blu-ray

Agreed. It's obvious that his agent is thinking up all sorts of things to push through a move back to Barcelona.

On the subject of Barca, I would imagine, after the season that Toure has had, that they are kicking themselves for letting him go in the first place.

As I'm sure Utd are for letting Pogba go.

[Wes Blu-ray]

Originally Posted by Villiam Hayes

As I'm sure Utd are for letting Pogba go.

I'am in total agreement with you on that.

[tob]

Originally Posted by Wes Blu-ray

Agreed.

The rumours about his future at City have been going on for a good while now.

OT...love the new avatar Tob, a nice shot of my fellow countryman Ramsey with the F.A. Cup

Thanks wes great player.

[Wes Blu-ray]

Originally Posted by tob

Thanks wes great player.

That he is tob

[tob]

Neil Lennon has left Celtic.

[Villiam Hayes]

Originally Posted by tob

Neil Lennon has left Celtic.

I could take over there and win trophies.....who was he linked with recently?I forget.

[tob]

Originally Posted by Villiam Hayes

I could take over there and win trophies.....who was he linked with recently?I forget.

Norwich but i think he might get a job in the premier league.

[Villiam Hayes]

Originally Posted by tob

Norwich but i think he might get a job in the premier league.

Quite possibly but I don't rate him that highly.

[tob]

Originally Posted by Villiam Hayes

Quite possibly but I don't rate him that highly.

What do you think of the strong rumour with Toni Kroos for United villiam.