Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

Whatever that's supposed to mean, I don't give 2 shits really to be honest... Me posting info about discs I own, correspondence I've had with distributors, release dates etc to help out others, plus other things sometimes, such as my shelves and gear when topics come up that relate to them, is not that same, those are my contributions... Why should people assist you in finding info that's not directly theirs? Many members take the time to careful read the info that gets posted on this site by others, and you're equally as capable of doing this ... Unless you have some kind of handicap which you've never mentioned?



You didn't even search the link I provided to you, if you had, you would've come across some examples of his work by clicking on the top right of the screen, and scrolling down to "Our Work":

https://www.fidelityinmotion.com/our-work.php

Edit: I just noticed that you edited your previous post after I had hit the quote button (I left my phone to do something else while I was in the middle of writing a response to you, and then come back to it 20-30 min later to finish it off), and actually did end up finding that on your own after all, bravo. Now start searching through those "1542" other posts of David M's for some more examples of his work ... Maybe it does enter your mind, who knows, but it doesn't seem to occur to you, that often these things have already been made easy for you, by members that have created threads dedicated to certain topics like this.

And? What's your point?

The information that you provided about David Mackenzie was useful. Everything else is just your attempt to antagonize.

I have asked you about your disc recommendations in the past and your reply was that I should do my own research. I asked alchav21 who David M was and you had no problem answering that question. You even provided a useful link.

As for sharing information that others have publicly posted, that is the reason why they did so in the first place; they posted to benefit others. No one can read every post in every thread and when someone finds a really good post they share it. It is called being helpful.

I pointed out the number of titles that Fidelity In Motion has worked on because this list is quite small. It was in reference to alchav's "advice" that:

Originally Posted by alchav21

If you want the best you look for David M Quality 4K upgraded Discs.

There are only 5 such discs and I think that I already own two of them. Two of the others don't interest me much leaving only 1 for me to consider buying.

I am ending my conversation with you here lest it devolve further and to avoid hijacking this thread again. Thank you for the information about David M.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I am very happy that your sister is steadily improving; that's great news! I certainly hope that her husband gets well and soon. You and your family are having a very tough time, but I am optimistic that you will all get through it.

I am enjoying my collection, but the viewing and listening experience is vastly diminished as I have to use my TVs built-in speakers while I save up to replace my AVR. It is just an inconvenience, but an annoying one.

Cheers matey, we are taking each day at a time.

Hope you get sorted with your sounds sooner rather than later.

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Vilya

How does one determine which discs David Mackenzie has worked on, or has otherwise approved, without wading though all 1542 of his posts on this website yet alone others? Has he provided a list of such titles?

Originally Posted by Cevolution

Maybe it does enter your mind, who knows, but it doesn't seem to occur to you, that often these things have already been made easy for you, by members that have created threads dedicated to certain topics like this

I just don't get why searching for info seems so difficult for you, Vilya? Or is it simply because you are lazy, and don't want to do it?:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=331672

[Vilya]

^ Useful link overall, minus the unnecessary sarcasm, but I only counted 11 titles that were 4K UHD. Kinda curious that this longer list was not included, or referenced, at the Fidelity In Motion link that was provided earlier:

https://www.fidelityinmotion.com/our-work.php

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Vilya

^ Useful link overall, minus the unnecessary sarcasm

You're a man that has dished out quite a lot sarcasm in this thread, but yet doesn't seem to be able take it return ... I love it.

Originally Posted by Vilya

but I only counted 11 titles that were 4K UHD.

So, I fail to see your point... No one said that they had worked on hundreds of 4K UHD's, just that their quality is the cream of the crop, for both 4K and standard Blu-ray.

Originally Posted by Vilya

Kinda curious that this longer list was not included, or referenced, at the Fidelity In Motion link that was provided earlier.

I provided the original link because of this comment of yours:

Originally Posted by Vilya

Who the hell is David M and why should anyone care what he thinks? How exactly does one "look for" his "Quality 4K upgraded discs?" If there is a reason why I should care, I am open to learn what it is.

You clearly didn't know who he is (Even Alchav21 knew, which that makes it even more hilarious), so I thought giving you some insight into him and his company was needed... I could have just sat back and let you embarrass yourself, because I could see where you were leading with this comment

I didn't post the second link right away because I was hoping that you would put in a bit of effort, and do a little research to find it yourself, but obviously not, you failed

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I understand some of your 4K Discs fall into this Potato Vision category. That the Streaming version could be better. If you want the best you look for David M Quality 4K upgraded Discs.

Which 4k discs do you think have potato vision?
I’ll double check them. I remember VfW had a grudge look but I think that’s just the style they were after. Same with Crank.


I have several of the 4K projects David M worked on apparently and some of the Blu rays. Flash Gordon was very fun to watch.

[Vilya]

It is a beautiful day today and I just came back from a long walk with my one-eyed kitty Sweetie. These walks are the highlight of his day and with winter approaching taking advantage of the remaining nice weather is very important to us both.

After dinner, I will resume watching season 10 of The Big Bang Theory on blu-ray. I have enjoyed this show a lot; I typically view 8 episodes a night. I have Young Sheldon waiting in the wings.

Next, I will stay up way too late playing video games with friends in far flung time zones. They kept me up until 3:30 AM last night.

All of these are simple pleasures that help to make life grand.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It is a beautiful day today and I just came back from a long walk with my one-eyed kitty Sweetie. These walks are the highlight of his day and with winter approaching taking advantage of the remaining nice weather is very important to us both.

After dinner, I will resume watching season 10 of The Big Bang Theory on blu-ray. I have enjoyed this show a lot; I typically view 8 episodes a night. I have Young Sheldon waiting in the wings.

If you haven't watched the Sony series made for YouTube Red that moved to Netflix called Cobra Kai please do. It's a continuation of the Karate Kid from many years back using the grown up adult actors. 2 seasons. 3rd and 4th likely from Netflix.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

If you haven't watched the Sony series that moved to Netflix called Cobra Kai please do. It's a continuation of the Karate Kid from many years back using the grown up adult actors. 2 seasons. 3rd and 4th likely from Netflix.

Thanks for the recommendation; I will add it to my watchlist.

I haven't watched anything from there in months. I need to watch season three of Dark, too, along with a few other things.

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

Seriously, you don't know who David M is... FFS, leave home once in a while

Originally Posted by Vilya

The reason why I do not know the name of the people who encode discs is precisely because I do leave home.

Oh, one final thing Vilya, I just realised that I forgot to address this... by "leave home once in a while", I was meaning this thread, and exploring the rest of the site so that you can better educate yourself ... Perhaps it was the 3:30am video gaming that effected this from being processed

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

If you haven't watched the Sony series made for YouTube Red that moved to Netflix called Cobra Kai please do. It's a continuation of the Karate Kid from many years back using the grown up adult actors. 2 seasons. 3rd and 4th likely from Netflix.

I have the Australian Blu-ray of Cobra Kai Season one, and Season 2 is due out on Blu-ray here in December, so I'll be picking that up too:

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[alchav21]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

If you haven't watched the Sony series made for YouTube Red that moved to Netflix called Cobra Kai please do. It's a continuation of the Karate Kid from many years back using the grown up adult actors. 2 seasons. 3rd and 4th likely from Netflix.

I have seen this series, and I'm all caught up. Yes it goes back to the Karate Kid with Ralph Micchio. Very good series.

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I have seen this series, and I'm all caught up. Yes it goes back to the Karate Kid with Ralph Micchio. Very good series.

[stonesfan129]

The thing that turns me off about "buying" movies the ridiculous DRM. Why not just sell me a disc without the DRM? Or sell me a download that I can play with any software not just the one I have to punch my account information into? That's what is done with music and that industry is not broke. With physical media, it would be nice if I can just order a disc "on demand." Like you buy the disc, they make it and mail it to you rather than just saying it's out of stock, etc.

Like with this Cinavia crapola. I had a disc that got scratched, no longer plays, has Cinavia. You cannot watch a backup copy of it in a Blu-ray player unless you pay for a software that "removes" it which is not legal and not worth the money imo either. But if the software cannot remove it, you are basically screwed and have to buy another disc. All fine and dandy until a disc is OOP and expensive. That is stupid and greed at its finest.

[dcx4610]

Posted this in the PS5 thread. Sony is trying to promote UHD on PS5 in the UK. Why is it not a pack in title though? This would have helped UHD a ton...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=9701

[TrackZ]

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New overview interview regarding Kaleidescape. Give it a watch if you want to learn more about the platform and what it does.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

Posted this in the PS5 thread. Sony is trying to promote UHD on PS5 in the UK. Why is it not a pack in title though? This would have helped UHD a ton...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=9701

It would make sense for sure.

[dcx4610]

Everyone seems to bring up the fact that physical media is dying in retail stores and that means the end of physical media. Not quite.

One point no one seems to bring up is that home video was never a mainstream/consumer target until really DVD. VHS tapes were $100+ and only sold by distributors and to rental stores. Eventually, you started seeing "specifically marked" VHS tapes being sold to consumers like the Wizard of Oz. Then, rental places started selling used VHS tapes in their stores.

Consumers weren't buying VHS tapes in droves. They were content in renting them. The collectors would buy the tapes used or because they are die hard, would pay the $100 to own the new tape.

Once DVD arrived, discs were so cheap to manufacture and with the help of the success of the PS2, everyone had a DVD player in their home. Retail stores started carrying DVDs and they were successful. Why? It was basically the only option anyone had to see a movie outside of the theater and in some cases, it was cheaper just to buy the DVD instead of renting it.

Now, consumers can just stream things and are no longer forced to buy a physical copy. Only collectors and people passionate about movies want to own them. Nothing has changed there.

We act like we had all of these people watching and collecting physical media and now they aren't. It was one time in the history of home video that this happened and it was only because the mainstream audience had no other choice. It reminds me of when the Nintendo Wii sold 100 million consoles and the Wii U sold 13. We didn't lose 87 million gamers. You simply briefly appealed to people that never cared about video games in the first place and now they've moved on to the next fad.

As for retail, there simply isn't the market or the floor space to maintain the number of releases that come out every week. Despite the brief DVD blip in history, we have always been a niche crowd and it's a gamble to stock a bunch of movies. It makes far more sense for distributors to sell direct to the consumer or if you are someone like Amazon where you have a warehouse, can sell to the entire world and have the space to sit on a stack of some obscure movie and sell them over time.

Case in point, I've heard good things about the movie "It Follows" and want to watch. It came out in 2015 and I checked the usual Target, Best Buy, Walmart and it was no where to be found. I went on Amazon, ordered at 10am and had it on my porch by 3pm. How do you compete with that?

Physical media isn't dying, it's just reverting back to the enthusiast market as it has been for 90% of its history.

[Lee A Stewart]

DVD sales top VHS sales for first time

Jan 9, 2002, 11:38am PST Updated Jan 9, 2002, 11:38am PST

Consumers spent $4.6 billion buying DVDs, 2.4 times more than in 2000, an increase that put DVD purchases ahead of VHS purchases for the first time despite an installed player base of 25 million DVD households versus a VCR installed player base of 96 million households, it says. Consumer spending on DVD purchases and rental combined was $6 billion, 2.4 times more than in 2000. Rentals of VHS tapes still exceed rentals of DVDs, however.

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/...7/daily34.html

DVD arrived in the US in March 1997 BTW.

[Lee A Stewart]