Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread - Page 1357 - Blu-ray Forum

Vilya · 10-24-2020, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by alchav21

The question, at what price would you guys sell your Oppo's? Panasonic is a good Player, but nothing could beat the Oppo!

I do not foresee ever selling my Oppo 203.

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Originally Posted by sapiendut

I wouldn’t even buy at the original MSRP as I know for a fact (I used to own one) that for disc playback the Panasonic UB9000 is better than the Oppo.

My concerns with all of the Panny's (420, 820, 9000) is that I have read many times that they do a poor job with DVD upscaling and I still own a lot of DVDs.

I also read that their main advantage is their ability to monkey with tone mapping, but the need for that feature lies primarily with projector owners. A TV with decent tone mapping does not really need that feature and minus this the Panny's are nothing remarkable.

If I am wrong about these things I will gladly consider adding a Panny as a second player someday. At the moment, I would rather pay ebay prices for another Oppo 203 than to buy a Panny.

gotmule · 10-24-2020, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sapiendut

I wouldn’t even buy at the original MSRP as I know for a fact (I used to own one) that for disc playback the Panasonic UB9000 is better than the Oppo.

I am not doubting your findings, but curious what is better with the Panasonic.

JohnAV · 10-24-2020, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sapiendut

I wouldn’t even buy at the original MSRP as I know for a fact (I used to own one) that for disc playback the Panasonic UB9000 is better than the Oppo.

Hmmmm those Panasonic just don’t have resale value, so sad.

JohnAV · 10-24-2020, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gotmule

I am not doubting your findings, but curious what is better with the Panasonic.

Rather then start this Oppo vs Panasonic debate again. Here's his original reason.

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Originally Posted by sapiendut

Because I use a projector I have to use the 9000 due to the customization features for HDR compression but for audio quality, the LX500 wins hands down. If you use OLED or LCD, the LX500 is a great all rounder. Too bad it doesn’t have any streeaming option.

Be at peace with what you use. The Pandemic really messed up this industry for people needing something other then a TV.

bhampton · 10-24-2020, 10:39 AM

Projector owner here,

Love my Panasonic UB420. It’s perfect for me.

Never owned an Oppo but some of my friends do. I respect the Oppo players quality but I don’t have a use for one myself and I would not buy a used one.

I don’t care if my UB420 doesn’t have a good resale value because I would never sell it. If I upgraded to a higher end Panasonic for some reason (build quality for example though the UB420 does a perfect job anyhow) I would keep my current player as a spare.

gotmule · 10-24-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnAV

Rather then start this Oppo vs Panasonic debate again. Here's his original reason.

Be at peace with what you use. The Pandemic really messed up this industry for people needing something other then a TV.

I have no plans to sell my Oppo, but was curious why he thinks the Panny is better. Thanks for digging up the answer.

bhampton · 10-24-2020, 11:09 AM

More PS5 4K Movie Essentials

[Show spoiler]

Gamers have a great holiday season to look forward to this year! If you have to stay home better get some PS5 4K Movie Essentials. Prepare for a wave of new UHD player owners.

Depending on how well it does with UHD, I may pick up a PS5. I know it does the AppleTV app so I could repurpose my ATV4K to another room and simplify my overall setup. It plays PS4 games so I could gift my PS4 to my kids. Eventually it’s going to make all too much sense to own one.

Sony for the win !

There’s even an economy version of the PS5 without the ability to play discs for steaming cheapskates who hate AV Quality.

Wendell R. Breland · 10-24-2020, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bhampton

Depending on how well it does with UHD, I may pick up a PS5.

Same here, very curious how well (or bad) it does as a media player and/or streaming player.

Anthony P · 10-24-2020, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Update, My sister went home today after 5 long weeks. She still has COVID but her other issues under control. She has to self isolate but we all hope she can start her path to recovery now.

Thanks so much for the good wishes everyone. It was very much appreciated.

glad to hear she is out, hope the rest of her recovery goes well.

Vilya · 10-24-2020, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnAV

Rather then start this Oppo vs Panasonic debate again. Here's his original reason.

Be at peace with what you use. The Pandemic really messed up this industry for people needing something other then a TV.

I wasn't trying to start a "who makes the best 4K disc player" debate; I was just marveling at the prices that Oppo players continue to command. I know of no other brand of player with that kind of enduring appeal.

I was up until 5 AM playing video games with one of my friends in New Zealand (6 hour time difference between us), so I expect to be extra incoherent all afternoon until my caffeine infusion takes hold.

JohnAV · 10-24-2020, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vilya

I wasn't trying to start a "who makes the best 4K disc player" debate; I was just marveling at the prices that Oppo players continue to command. I know of no other brand of player with that kind of enduring appeal.

I was up until 5 AM playing video games with one of my friends in New Zealand (6 hour time difference between us), so I expect to be extra incoherent all afternoon until my caffeine infusion takes hold.

Do you know any other brand that you can get reasonable maintenance service, while being fully CI remote controlled, great remote, supports a large amount of video/audio codecs/file formats even serve as a front end for a NAS or Room setup. Easily modified for regional free operation using mods. Exceptional build and product life qualities. Even a HDMI input for other sources. It was also sold previously in many countries. Even if Oppo Digital closed down, the parent company Oppo Electronics is very well off and continues maintenance services. Cherished by both videophiles/audiophiles.

Wendell R. Breland · 10-24-2020, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnAV

Cherished by both videophiles/audiophiles.

Indeed. Have followed media players for many years and to this day none, IMHO, best the Oppo except most can play ISO's.

gotmule · 10-24-2020, 06:47 PM

Wow! It took two days for me to be called a troll on AVS Forum. I used to post occasionally awhile ago, but left because there were too many clowns on it. I figured I would try it again, but I see the clowns have multiplied.

bhampton · 10-24-2020, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gotmule

Wow! It took two days for me to be called a troll on AVS Forum. I used to post occasionally awhile ago, but left because there were too many clowns on it. I figured I would try it again, but I see the clowns have multiplied.

That’s sad. I have often asked myself why I stopped posting there. I still read a bit there and post on occasion.

Back in 1999, AVS Forum was a major source of information and inspiration for me. Things have changed a lot over the last twenty years but I imagine there are still great people there and good moderators.

gotmule · 10-24-2020, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bhampton

That’s sad. I have often asked myself why I stopped posting there. I still read a bit there and post on occasion.

Back in 1999, AVS Forum was a major source of information and inspiration for me. Things have changed a lot over the last twenty years but I imagine there are still great people there and good moderators.

Same here and I agree that there are some good folks there. But there are also people on the site with hidden agendas.

JohnAV · 10-24-2020, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gotmule

Same here and I agree that there are some good folks there. But there are also people on the site with hidden agendas.

Just report them when appropriate. AVS doesn't like problematic types anymore than any forum.

Post is gone now BTW

Steedeel · 10-25-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gotmule

Wow! It took two days for me to be called a troll on AVS Forum. I used to post occasionally awhile ago, but left because there were too many clowns on it. I figured I would try it again, but I see the clowns have multiplied.

Amongst some idiots, it has become a word to just throw around when someone disagrees with their viewpoint. I have seen it on the Blu-ray forum to a lesser degree from time to time.

You are far from a troll, so don’t let it get to you.

Anthony P · 10-25-2020, 02:57 PM

have not been on AVS in years. From the posts here I see nothing much has changed there.

JohnAV · 10-25-2020, 07:34 PM

Netflix has another rare (that good) series entitled the Queens Gambit. The Queen's Gambit review - Robert Ebert.com

Walter Tevis also wrote The Hustler, and the Color of Money, but for some people the Queens Gambit from him is a favorite, just nice to see it brought to the screen as well. Period Music is good also. Hope it comes out on Blu-ray also.

JohnAV · 10-25-2020, 08:12 PM

Need a bit of humor?

10-24-2020, 10:39 AM	#27125
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:988 Blu-ray collection:2544 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Projector owner here, Love my Panasonic UB420. It’s perfect for me. Never owned an Oppo but some of my friends do. I respect the Oppo players quality but I don’t have a use for one myself and I would not buy a used one. I don’t care if my UB420 doesn’t have a good resale value because I would never sell it. If I upgraded to a higher end Panasonic for some reason (build quality for example though the UB420 does a perfect job anyhow) I would keep my current player as a spare. Last edited by bhampton; 10-24-2020 at 10:45 AM.

10-24-2020, 11:09 AM	#27127
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:988 Blu-ray collection:2544 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	More PS5 4K Movie Essentials [Show spoiler] Gamers have a great holiday season to look forward to this year! If you have to stay home better get some PS5 4K Movie Essentials. Prepare for a wave of new UHD player owners. Depending on how well it does with UHD, I may pick up a PS5. I know it does the AppleTV app so I could repurpose my ATV4K to another room and simplify my overall setup. It plays PS4 games so I could gift my PS4 to my kids. Eventually it’s going to make all too much sense to own one. Sony for the win ! There’s even an economy version of the PS5 without the ability to play discs for steaming cheapskates who hate AV Quality. Last edited by bhampton; 10-24-2020 at 01:39 PM.

10-24-2020, 06:47 PM	#27133
gotmule Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Lewes, Delaware Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray reviews:17	Wow! It took two days for me to be called a troll on AVS Forum. I used to post occasionally awhile ago, but left because there were too many clowns on it. I figured I would try it again, but I see the clowns have multiplied.

10-25-2020, 02:57 PM	#27138
Anthony P Blu-ray Count Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	have not been on AVS in years. From the posts here I see nothing much has changed there.

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