Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by MrHT

And that's what I'm trying not to be. That's why I don't understand why people are throwing a hissy fit over what I do with my life and how I choose to buy my movies. It's my life, why can't I do what I wish?

I did not read much past this point (moving way too fast) but

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

This is the official definition, which media can definitely be part of. I have no issue with it as long as it looks nice.

I agree with Cheez, a physical movie collection can fall into hoarding depending on the person, but it can also be collecting (People in this thread that collect physical media fall in that category).

On the other hand the definition does not specify it needs to be a physical object and so someone can just as easily hoard digital copies.

The problem is collecting physical media makes sense (if I want to watch X it is easier if the physical media is in my Home) and so there is no "perceived need to save them" if someone uses them. The problem with a digital collection is that it is by definition a "perceived need to save" something with no value and so it can only fall in the hoarding definition.

[cheez avenger]

Happy Halloween!

Just finished watching the 4K disc of the original and now it's on to the Scream Factory BD's of II & III.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I don't have a spare room. I live in an apartment. But let me guess... your advice would be to move into a bigger a place?! How nice. I should spend the time and money buying and moving to a new place for the sole purpose of owning more movies!

I can understand space restraints, and you can do what you want. But I don't have a spare room and I have many thousand films, all they take up is a few feet of wall space and I would never walk that close to the walls even if the films were not there. I don't know how many films Steedeel or if he really has a spare room just for his films.

[Wendell R. Breland]

For season one of The Mandalorian we watched a new episode every other night. Looks like for season two we will a new episode every week just like traditional linear pay TV.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You guys do know as sales for PM goes down the prices will go up.

no, I don't live in delusional land. All I know is Netflix is raisin their prices and the digital market is getting more and more fractured which raises prices because people need to pay for more services.

True Collectors want the best, and rare Movies and TV Shows, also OOP. These items will be costly, but with Deep Pockets you guys should have no problems!

1) I agree true collectors want the best. and as a film collector that is what I want which is why I buy the best (physical media which offers the best audio and video quality)

2)Picasso's in a vault is a hoarding, a collector is someone that buys what will bring him most pleasure. Sometimes that is an expensive rare film, sometimes it is a cheap one. It is about buying what would be used and add value to the persons life and not about having crap the person does not care for. As for OOP a true collector will have bought it before it is OOP, the hoarder is the one that will wait and say "I will buy it for $$ because maybe one day it will be $$$$."

3) I won't make any excuses for how deep my pockets are, I worked hard to afford the stuff I want to buy, if that is an issue for you maybe you should have made smarter decisions and you would have pockets that are as deep as you need (one way I do it is not wasting money on ephemeral stuff like digital movies).

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

If prices really do skyrocket like you keep predicting then all of us with physical collections will suddenly become millionaires.

what are you talking about, we would already be paying 1M per film. Remember the time when he found some crappy film (that could easily be bought at a normal price) that was advertised second hand at a ridiculous price that might have been a type and used it as proof as to how fast prices are going up?

Your digital collection has zero chance of ever increasing in value.

don't you mean has zero chance of ever having any value? Can you sell an apple or Vudu copy of a film? you can sell the code that came with a disk but not a redeemed digital copy as far as I know.

[flyry]

Been adding a lot of movies to my digital collection that I already own on blu-ray but came out before digital codes were a thing.

not sure if its just because i'm too lazy to grab the discs.

buying 4 criterions in November and quite a few physical pre-orders for December.

[Anthony P]

happy Halloween.

Usually I watch Halloween (1978) but I think I will go with (2018) tonight. I don't have the original on 4k yet and (2018) is a good film.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I did not read much past this point (moving way too fast) but


I agree with Cheez, a physical movie collection can fall into hoarding depending on the person, but it can also be collecting (People in this thread that collect physical media fall in that category).

On the other hand the definition does not specify it needs to be a physical object and so someone can just as easily hoard digital copies.

The problem is collecting physical media makes sense (if I want to watch X it is easier if the physical media is in my Home) and so there is no "perceived need to save them" if someone uses them. The problem with a digital collection is that it is by definition a "perceived need to save" something with no value and so it can only fall in the hoarding definition.

What about people who consistently pay $15 per month for a Netflix subscription? So essentially, you're paying $15 per month to hoard Netflix's library of content?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I can understand space restraints, and you can do what you want. But I don't have a spare room and I have many thousand films, all they take up is a few feet of wall space and I would never walk that close to the walls even if the films were not there. I don't know how many films Steedeel or if he really has a spare room just for his films.

I have around 2,000 films including DVD. I need to update my collection o; here as 8 have added a fair chunk or 4K discs and Blu-ray. I do indeed have a spare room for storage (neatly arranged) as I bought a two bedroom home for that reason (I don’t have any kids).

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by MrHT

What about people who consistently pay $15 per month for a Netflix subscription? So essentially, you're paying $15 per month to hoard Netflix's library of content?

While obsessive hoarding can be both digital and physical media. The latter is the only one that takes up physical space. But a subscription is just a means of access, you are not involved in any hoarding.

[sapiendut]

I personally don’t think streaming can be considered as hoarding. You can’t hoard anything that you don’t actually own.

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

I agree about it having to be core. What sucks is that there's a large number of folks that have OCD and it's just the compulsion of collecting that drives them, not the love of film.

Quite the assumption with no basis in fact when it comes to the individual. "Large" is relative and useless in this application.

Btw I love my OCD if that is what one calls it.

Quality is an ever shaping goal not a finite destination or definition.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by slimjean

Quite the assumption with no basis in fact when it comes to the individual. "Large" is relative and useless in this application.

Btw I love my OCD if that is what one calls it.

Quality is an ever shaping goal not a finite destination or definition.

This whole hobby centers around collecting works of arts centered around specific historical time points so that you can revisit these works of arts whenever you want to. Our hobby is no different than people that collect other objects that allow them to study/experience content from different time periods. There are people that collect hundreds and hundreds of books, although most of the material they might read it once, yet they treasure all they have accumulated. Sound Familiar?

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

While obsessive hoarding can be both digital and physical media. The latter is the only one that takes up physical space. But a subscription is just a means of access, you are not involved in any hoarding.

But if I spend $15 per month for five months for the Netflix "access", that would be $75 total. What if I don't have any subscription for five months and use the $75 on digital movies? Same thing except this time, my "access" is for an indefinite amount of time.

But yeah, I can also spend $75 on physical movies. Same thing and yeah, ideally it's better. But I don't like clutter in my home. I'd rather have clutter that I can't see.

[bhampton]

The Invisible Clutter

That’s it! I’ve got to start working on this screenplay right away. Don’t tell anyone.

People will be like “Did you see that?” And it will be like no but that’s the point.

[Vilya]

Happy Halloween!

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by bhampton

The Invisible Clutter

That’s it! I’ve got to start working on this screenplay right away. Don’t tell anyone.

People will be like “Did you see that?” And it will be like no but that’s the point.

Trying to make a joke about accumulating digital files. Shall we point to Kaleidoscope which uses local storage to play films, how about all the people that download, rip and store digital content local to they HT system on NAS. Audiophiles that buy CD or better quality and have it stored for playing on their computers systems interfaced to HT setup.

I know people like to joke about what's digital vs BD media, but if you start getting into expensive setups it's no longer an exclusive to just physical media.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

[Show spoiler]

Happy Halloween!

Welcome back, also Happy Halloween.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Happy Halloween!

Welcome back!

Was expecting a few weeks before you would return.