Tips, Tricks and Fixes

[punkguy03]

I had a launch ps3 60gb and it worked for 4yrs before I got the YLOD, I tried the fixes and it didn't work on it. I ended up buying the slim tho. My original 60gb was 700 bucks so 300 for the newer ones isn't too bad.

[AikonEnt]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

The only way that Sony could "fix the issue" is to incorporate some type of liquid nitrogen based colling system into it.

That would be so cool. Literally

[Omegaice]

Originally Posted by AikonEnt

That would be so cool. Literally

That's right Iceeeeeman, I am dangerous! =P

[SlaughterX]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Wow... you make it sound like Sony has a design flaw with their console. That is not the case buddy. When it comes to any piece of computer-like electronics, there is no way to safeguard against the possibility of overheating. The compound chemical used in conjunction with the heat sinks of the PS3 can only last so long before drying up enough to allow the motherboard soder to melt slightly and lose contact. You are making it sound like the Xbox360 design flaw where the actual hardware fails for completely different reasons and they ignored it for nearly 3 years.

That's exactly what it sounds like to me. Except Microsoft actually owned up and repaired all those consoles for free and offered an extended 3 year warranty.

[victorvondoom88]

Originally Posted by SlaughterX

That's exactly what it sounds like to me. Except Microsoft actually owned up and repaired all those consoles for free and offered an extended 3 year warranty.

Except PS3's don't have a 60% failure rate. As far as xbox's extended warranty expires, once the three years are your screwed. It red rings go buy a new one or pay someone to fix it.
All microsoft did was band-aid them and send them back out into the field. They didn't do a proper corrective action & actually solve the problem.
My launch ps3 is still going strong as is my 80gb fatty. On xbox #5 though.

[SlaughterX]

And Sony's $165 solution to YLOD isn't a band-aid? You can try throwing out statistics that you or anyone else are not sure of, the fact of that matter is that a large amount of older PS3s suffer from YLOD or Blu-Ray ROM failure and Sony still hasn't acknowledged it and charges a hefty fee for a temporary fix. I've had 2 360s fail and 2 PS3s fail. The difference between the two is that Microsoft fixed their consoles for free.

[Oateyboat]

I think it's a major concern when the last generation of consoles (PS2 and Xbox etc.) didn't have such major faults as the current generation. To answer an above poster, yes, I feel like it is Sony's problem, and you say to get a fan in to stop these problems would be expensive, but I've already spent £500 on PS3s, and I need ANOTHER repair or new one. Plus, when I phoned Sony, they said not all YLOD problems are caused by overheating. Whether he was wrong or not is a different issue.

[SlaughterX]

[crow2k5]

Originally Posted by SlaughterX

That's exactly what it sounds like to me. Except Microsoft actually owned up and repaired all those consoles for free and offered an extended 3 year warranty.

Agreed, microsoft fixed my 360 for free, as sony charged me & then 2 weeks after the 3 month warranty it got YLOD again & they wanted me to pay again.

[victorvondoom88]

Originally Posted by SlaughterX

And Sony's $165 solution to YLOD isn't a band-aid? You can try throwing out statistics that you or anyone else are not sure of, the fact of that matter is that a large amount of older PS3s suffer from YLOD or Blu-Ray ROM failure and Sony still hasn't acknowledged it and charges a hefty fee for a temporary fix. I've had 2 360s fail and 2 PS3s fail. The difference between the two is that Microsoft fixed their consoles for free.

I'm not saying it isn't a band aid but you said that "microsoft owned up to it and fixed all those consoles for free". They did for a limited time only and they never implemented anything to actually correct the root cause of the problem. They had to with the rate of failure they were having they had to do damage control.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/...-rate-is-54-2/

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6216691...0-wii-27-study

In this survey they claim they have fixed the issue but I never received anything other than a re-furb of the build I sent in.
As they claim their 65nm chipset fixed or greatly reduced the issue all of them (65nm) came with HDMI outs after the elite I never received one of those or the option to pay a small fee to upgrade to one.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6215590...ilure-rate-542

The links I'm posting to just to illustrate that perhaps the PS3 issue isn't big enough to justify the kind of massive re-furb/warranty thing that microsoft did.
Then again if they were car manufacturers microsoft would have had to issue the largest recall in history.
Now no one wants to have a console die on them and it sucks if it happens twice to the same person. They should certainly offer some kind of "sorry for the inconvenience" package or something.

[Blu-Curry]

My friend and i were talking and we thought of something which we aren't sure works lol. When you use your 30 days free Netflix, does it activate it for the entire system (what i'd guess) or just the individual profile? If it wasn't the entire system, then you could just continually create new profiles to use it for free.

[Blu-Curry]

My 60GB has YLOD'd twice and the price for getting it fixed twice amounted to buying a new Slim. So i'm planning on getting a Slim very soon so i can transfer my copyrighted game saves to it, thanks to the cloud storage (while it lasts).

[Freeza]

Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

Except PS3's don't have a 60% failure rate. As far as xbox's extended warranty expires, once the three years are your screwed. It red rings go buy a new one or pay someone to fix it.
All microsoft did was band-aid them and send them back out into the field. They didn't do a proper corrective action & actually solve the problem.
My launch ps3 is still going strong as is my 80gb fatty. On xbox #5 though.

Give it time, I'd say that the original PS3s are going to reach it. And as for xbox's extended warranty expiring, how is NONE better than that?

I'm not trying to slam the PS3 here, I went through hell with my 360 and in the end ended up dumping it completely and solely using my PS3, but I recently went through the unpleasantness of a YLOD (the day before, had you asked, I'd have had the exact attitude you do now) and I can say with certainty it was no fault of my own. $300 for a new unit didn't sit well after that (and gee, that sounds a lot like your MS comment of, "go buy a new one or pay someone to fix it").

[Omegaice]

I personally speak from experience in regards to the YLOD issue. My launch day 60gig suffered the YLOD back in January 2010. I was devastaed because my Fat was one of the nicest pieces of electronics I owned at the time. I payed to have my Fat repaired by a 3rd party person. And the fixed worked flawlessly until September 2010 when I started having intermittent issues.

So I repaired my Fat that time with no issues but I decided to go ahead & purchase a Slim & just relegate my Fat to media storage. Every time this debate gets started there is always a group of individuals on either side of the fence.

Honestly, electronics fail all the time just as the 360 & the PS3 has. I feel fortunate to have gotten almost 3 1/2 years of faithful service out my Fat before the YLOD showed up. It does suck that Sony charges every time for the repair of the Fats & the fact they send back a completely different unit is unfortunate as well.

But Sony is in the business of consumer electronics & they are concerned with a profit first & customer satisfaction second. It's just how today's big companies operate. Microsoft is no different in that regards. I don't mean that in a bad way either. I respect anybody who has either system or both as long as your content with YOUR equipment.

So if you experience a YLOD & it makes you contemplate on choosing a 360 or vice versa a PS3 for RROD for replacement than that's your right to do so.

I personally would pick Sony over any consumer electronic brand any day. Because I know that Sony make quality products although some times slightly overpriced. But that's what comparison shopping is for & of course the Internet. These are my two cents on the subject so please don't flame me for adding to the debate.

[victorvondoom88]

Originally Posted by omegaice

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I personally would pick Sony over any consumer electronic brand any day. Because I know that Sony make quality products although some times slightly overpriced. But that's what comparison shopping is for & of course the Internet. These are my two cents on the subject so please don't flame me for adding to the debate.

I agree and I'm not flaming or anything. It is just that some are making it out like the ps3 has some huge design flaw which IMO it doesn't. But that may be because of all the problems I've had with the 360. If #5 goes out on me I will have allot of 360 games and stuff for sale.

However after reading the experiences you guys have had if my launch ps3 goes to crap I'm going to go with a 3rd party repair I think to save a few bucks.

Hell I even left my ps3 on for 2 weeks on accident and it is still working. My launch ps3 and my first 360 were bought on the same day and ps3 is still going, 360 #5 is working so far.....

Both machines in the exact same environment with probably equal hours between the two. I played the 360 allot more online but made up the difference in hours by watching blu-rays. I still have a couple of fat ps2's that work there around 10 years old now.

Bottom line it blows when you lay down your hard earned cash for something and it goes to crap. With game consoles it is especially bad because the media is so pricey you can have over a grand invested in just a handful of games & accessories for one console. So you are kind of trapped into fixing it or buying a new one.
It isn't like a blu-ray player where you can get another brand still use all the media.

[Lopan]

Yep just 3 weeks ago my launch day PS3 (60gb) had experienced the YLOD. Plus I was on my #5 game system account activation. I thought that my account was screwed and I would have to start all over again with all my trophies. Luckily a couple of videos on Youtube showed me how to temporarily fix it so I could at least de-active my account. I now have a Slim and I'm very happy with it. Bit Streaming HD Audio and Super quieter than the old fatty.

[Omegaice]

Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

I agree and I'm not flaming or anything. It is just that some are making it out like the ps3 has some huge design flaw which IMO it doesn't. But that may be because of all the problems I've had with the 360. If #5 goes out on me I will have allot of 360 games and stuff for sale.

However after reading the experiences you guys have had if my launch ps3 goes to crap I'm going to go with a 3rd party repair I think to save a few bucks.

Hell I even left my ps3 on for 2 weeks on accident and it is still working. My launch ps3 and my first 360 were bought on the same day and ps3 is still going, 360 #5 is working so far.....

Both machines in the exact same environment with probably equal hours between the two. I played the 360 allot more online but made up the difference in hours by watching blu-rays. I still have a couple of fat ps2's that work there around 10 years old now.

Bottom line it blows when you lay down your hard earned cash for something and it goes to crap. With game consoles it is especially bad because the media is so pricey you can have over a grand invested in just a handful of games & accessories for one console. So you are kind of trapped into fixing it or buying a new one.
It isn't like a blu-ray player where you can get another brand still use all the media.

I applaud you for your patience & loyalty my friend. 5 360s is insane in my eyes. I never really bought off on the failure rate of the 360 when it began but eventually it was every where in the media for a while. Now I rarely hear about RROD issues unless it's on here.

I truly hope that your current 360 hangs in there just like your PS3. It's more like "when" the YLOD happens. Eventually the solder on the CPU/RSX will fail. It just happens. But hopefully not for a while longer. I can recommend a good 3rd party person if you would like.

These consoles are investments albeit poor ones but we pour our hard earned money to them regardless. It can be frustrating & disheartening when it happens though.

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by oat-a-bix

I think it's a major concern when the last generation of consoles (PS2 and Xbox etc.) didn't have such major faults as the current generation. To answer an above poster, yes, I feel like it is Sony's problem, and you say to get a fan in to stop these problems would be expensive, but I've already spent £500 on PS3s, and I need ANOTHER repair or new one. Plus, when I phoned Sony, they said not all YLOD problems are caused by overheating. Whether he was wrong or not is a different issue.

Actually, the PS2 had its fair share of hardware failures. Not 360 wise but still a good amount. I feel fortunate that the PS2 in the basement won in a subway contest (that's right, it's not a scam and they do distribute actual winning tickets) in 2003 still works great to this day.

[Almadacr]

Originally Posted by SlaughterX

And Sony's $165 solution to YLOD isn't a band-aid? You can try throwing out statistics that you or anyone else are not sure of, the fact of that matter is that a large amount of older PS3s suffer from YLOD or Blu-Ray ROM failure and Sony still hasn't acknowledged it and charges a hefty fee for a temporary fix. I've had 2 360s fail and 2 PS3s fail. The difference between the two is that Microsoft fixed their consoles for free.

This ^^^ I had the BR drive dying on me after the update 3.0 if anyone remembers it . Sony in Australia acknowledged this issue but right away they back down because the main office in Japan said so and they could`t lose any more money on the PS3 .

To the OP from knowledge with friends and friends from friends they did the YLOD repair ones there own others paid for it and it was only a small repair the console died on them again . You should try to fixed to transfer everything and buy a new one .

[Omegaice]

Originally Posted by Hatter

Actually, the PS2 had its fair share of hardware failures. Not 360 wise but still a good amount. I feel fortunate that the PS2 in the basement won in a subway contest (that's right, it's not a scam and they do distribute actual winning tickets) in 2003 still works great to this day.

I remember that contest!! Those were the good 'ol days!! My launch day PS2 was traded for my launch day PS3 60gig. I even had all the original packing for my PS2! You should've seen the dude's face @ GameStop!