Titanic 4K UHD (1997)

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by mar3o

DigitalBits gave the first Star Wars SE trilogy blu-rays an A also.

pretty much everyone did, it was another era unfortunately

I remember a time when people thought the 2007 BD of The Fifth Element was amazing, one reason being the 2006 BD was even worse

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I'm verr excited to see it in motion mind you.

Same.

I think it’s going to look pretty good regardless of the complaints in here.

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Originally Posted by mclellandj

None of you would have survived the VHS era.

Laughs in widescreen double VHS cassette set.

[starmike]

I just dumped all my VHS tapes to digital recently. None of them were retail. I only have a handful left but I'm done with the VHS era. Only took me (checks calendar) 40 years.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by mclellandj

None of you would have survived the VHS era.

Somehow I did.

VHS was all we had back then (and Beta).

These days blu-ray and now UHD have raised the bar for what to expect for quality, and we have adapted. Now we expect that quality. Especially when we see so many releases getting it right. We expect these releases to treat the films correctly because many do. Sadly, some don't.

[punisher]

The VHS era was about having a copy of a movie at home and watching it on your tv. It was soo kool having Star Wars, ET ,Batman, etc right there on your shelf. Now...well it's a monster out of control..lol

[starmike]

I had Star Wars before it went retail. I knew someone who had an educational copy. It was really awesome going from Story of Star Wars to a tape recording in a theater to having a tape of it. The ability to watch and study it was amazing.

[escvnte]

Originally Posted by starmike

I know, but I want to know what he thinks. Because everyone's giving this disc an A+ but apparently he thinks it looks awful.

I have 35mm scans of TITANIC, Aliens and other 80s-90s movies.
They look decent for what they are and, as a collector, I like to collect these "gems", as I do with special editions and other things.

However, unless i'm gonna have the time to tinker them (which I don't), give them a proper grading and remove dirt and scratches, here and there, with all the softwares and equipment available, out there, they won't ever look nowhere as good as what we currently have, here, with the 4K UHD.

To me, they're good to revive that 80s-90s pre-digital cinema nostalgia (as I didn't had the chance to re-watch TITANIC or some other movie in 35mm, in the past few years) kinda like smoking a nice Havana cigar or drink a glass of a good wine or play retro videogames, every once in awhile. But, in the end, a properly mastered|approved Blu-Ray will always get my approval, no matter how a 35mm scan or even an old HDTV telecine transfer looks like.

If it looks good to my eyes, it's gonna be my "go to" version to watch.

We waited many years to finally have TITANIC on 4K.
We got a superb transfer, and time has definitely payed off very well, in the end.
Even I, who was very doubtful about this release, after I saw the actual thing I had to admit to myself that it looks fantastic.

I don't have any problem if someone prefers one version over the other.
For all that matters, I know some people still have and watch the original 1999 DVD of TITANIC on their TV and are happy with it. And never bothered with Blu-Ray or 4K at all.
If they're happy with what they have, why should I tell them to get the 4K Blu, if probably they don't care about it at all?

With that said, the 4K has barely any flaws. The Atmos mix is superb, and there's really very little to complain about, really.

[escvnte]

Originally Posted by starmike

I just dumped all my VHS tapes to digital recently. None of them were retail. I only have a handful left but I'm done with the VHS era. Only took me (checks calendar) 40 years.

There's a guy on Youtube (Titanicfan97) that collects ALL TITANIC VHS tapes he can get his hands on......no kidding.
He has over 2774 VHS tapes ONLY of TITANIC........

So VHS it's not dead, yet, LOL.....

[starmike]

Originally Posted by escvnte

There's a guy on Youtube (Titanicfan97) that collects ALL TITANIC VHS tapes he can get his hands on......no kidding.
He has over 2774 VHS tapes ONLY of TITANIC........

So VHS it's not dead, yet, LOL.....

I saw that! I don't know what the purpose of it is but kudos.

[escvnte]

Originally Posted by starmike

I saw that! I don't know what the purpose of it is but kudos.

It's crazy, really.
Don't know if he's doing this as a sort of "challenge" (who owns the most copies of TITANIC on VHS) or if he actually plans on watching all those tapes.

My TITANIC collection, so far, looks like the one of this guy, but without the props, the direct-to-video B-series sequel and other limited edition things he has.

James Cameron's Titanic Ultimate Collection - YouTube

I also have the 4-disc 2017 James Horner complete score as well, other than the RARE original DTS-CD and Super Audio CD in surround sound of the retail OST.

[starmike]

I have:

The original CD
The SACD
The new soundtrack
DVD (3-disc)
Blu-Ray (standard)
4K CE (coming next week)
Heart of the Ocean replica from 1998

I used to have the DTS Laserdisc but I was cleaning out old tech this past summer and it wasn't worth anything so I just tossed it.

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Originally Posted by Djt31

Digital Bits review : https://thedigitalbits.com/item/tita...5thle-uhd-2023

"In the meantime, you should know that Cameron himself supervised and approved this work. What it looks like to me, is that Lightstorm went back to original camera negative (scanned in 16-bit 4K) for scenes not involving visual effects, then upscaled the best existing 2K source for VFX shots. It also appears that some grain management has been applied to even out levels throughout the film, but not so much as to remove the grain completely—it does still appear here and is definitely organic—but it’s very fine indeed (some of this must also due to the selection of film stocks, which were designed to exhibit extremely fine grain and enable very high sharpness). And obviously, the image has been graded for high dynamic range (available here in both Dolby Vision and HDR10)."

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

At the end of the itunes stream:

Post Production Mastering and Color
Modern Videofilm
Skip Kimball

Restoration Processing
Reliance Mediaworks

Remastering Colorist
Tashi Trieu

4K Remastering
Poark Road Post Production, NZ
Ian Bidgood
Francisco Cubas
Dan Best
Jon Newell
Wattana Moeung
Oliver Christie-Limbrick
James Marks
Hamish Charleson


The 2012 blu-ray:

Post Production Mastering and Color
Modern Videofilm
Skip Kimball

Restoration Processing
Reliance Mediaworks


It has the old Paramount Logo at the beginning and the alternate sunset shots with Jack and Rose at the front of the ship.

I wonder if the scan used for this 4K remaster is the one from the 2011 4K scan rather than a new scan from the OCN.

If the scan was wholly new then why does this transfer included credits for the 2011/2 remastering team?

Perhaps just for the fixes created then and conformed into a new scan or maybe the 2011/2 scan is the base for the newest 4K remastering.

[Member-222782]

Paramount's Special Collector's Edition DVD hardbox set has been on my shelf for many years. Of course, I threw the DVDs away and replaced them with two Blu-rays. It's a handsome set; haven't decided if I'm finally going to chuck it now that the 4Ks are here. I do like the slipcover art on the 4K but that hardbox is really cool so I may just hang onto it.

Oh, the joys of collecting

[escvnte]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Paramount's Special Collector's Edition DVD hardbox set has been on my shelf for many years. Of course, I threw the DVDs away and replaced them with two Blu-rays. It's a handsome set; haven't decided if I'm finally going to chuck it now that the 4Ks are here. I do like the slipcover art on the 4K but that hardbox is really cool so I may just hang onto it.

Oh, the joys of collecting

I have Paramount's 3-DVD set and the UK 20th Century Fox 4-disc Deluxe Edition.

The 4-disc DVD edition got a bonus disc with some stuff that weren't ported over to the 2012 Blu-Ray set, so I still keep that in my collection only for the bonus stuff that's missing.

I agree, though.
It's a great sturdy boxset, much like Pearl Harbor's Director's Cut.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I do not think this looks awful based on the caps we've seen so far. But I don't think it looks as it should.

Perhaps Cameron should've consulted you on the restoration? BTW, where did you get your Masters in Cinematography?

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by escvnte

I have Paramount's 3-DVD set and the UK 20th Century Fox 4-disc Deluxe Edition.

The 4-disc DVD edition got a bonus disc with some stuff that weren't ported over to the 2012 Blu-Ray set, so I still keep that in my collection only for the bonus stuff that's missing.

I agree, though.
It's a great sturdy boxset, much like Pearl Harbor's Director's Cut.

I also still have that great Pearl Harbor Vista Series "Pilot's Handbook" edition. I will NEVER get rid of that. That was Disney back when they had actual artists at the studio. The Vista Series line was fantastic.

Pearl Harbor gets a lot of hate but I think it makes a great companion piece to Titanic. Great filmmaking.

[NormanBatesStuffedBird]

The slant review is a bit much …

“Detail is so fine that you can see the peach fuzz on shaved lips and women’s arm…”

[spanky87]

Ya, I was gonna say, what’s with this sudden fixation over the “peach fuzz” and citing it as an example of how revelatory the 4K is? It was mentioned earlier in this thread and now it’s popping up in reviews. It was always visible on Kate Winslet on the blu-ray and probably the DVD too.

Here’s a cap from the open matte:

[blakninja]

Sorry but dumb question, what happens in 100 years when they release the 64K bluray version, Cameron won't be there to approve it.