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Old 07-21-2013, 01:37 AM   #281
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Yeah... How'd that work out? If the creators are alive, and don't want to be involved, it shouldn't be done.



[George Bush Voice] Read my lips... Not gonna happen.[/George Bush Voice]

If Cameron converts Abyss to 3D it will be under his supervision, with an actual conversion house, and not the cheap JVC system.

He's already shot down True Lies for a 3D conversion... Abyss was a possibility. (Most likely as a companion piece to Avatar 2 or 3, when he establishes the Jellyfish on Earth, are actually time traveling sprites from Pandora, sent back in time to stop people from destroying the atmosphere.)

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I didn't buy I Robot 3D because I wasn't satisfied with the result.

The George Bush analogy may not have been the best to use here. What he said was "Read my lips, No new taxes" That didn't work out too well for him since he did have to raise taxes. I know what you mean, though.

As for Cameron; there is no question that he will be involved in 3D conversions of any of his properties. He is without question, one of the prime movers in the latest 3D era. But, don't you think he would agree that for 3D to succeed in the home market, the adoption rate must increase? As a result, he has a vested interest in the success of this Fox/JVC venture. I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved with the effort as a consultant.

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Old 07-21-2013, 01:52 AM   #282
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Cameron and others have established the acceptability of catalog conversions with high profile offerings like Titanic, Star Wars, Top Gun and Jurassic Park. Those were all expensive, labor intensive, time consuming conversions.
And aside from Titanic, none of them have really done that well. We're at the point that Disney has abandoned any future 3D conversion plans, besides the Pixar stuff that is done or already in progress... Of course this is the simplest to convert.

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The next step is to provide low cost, fast 3D automated conversions of acceptable quality to increase supply and achieve profitability.
The problem with this whole theory is there is no secondary market for 3D, besides Blu-ray, and in-theory, streaming. - 3D broadcast channels are bleeding money, and will probably all be gone by the end of 2014.

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All the studios are carefully watching the Fox JVC attempt to accomplish this.
I wouldn't say that, Sony would use their own tech, if they cared, but they're dealing with 4k now.

Lionsgate is using Samsung's tech, which apparently is just as bad as JVC's.

Disney as noted, is already done with this, and WB shows no urge to do much conversion of catalog, beside Harry Potter and the urge to annoy Christopher Nolan and try and convert Inception against his wishes.

I'd point out Universal, but let's face it, just getting proper HD masters is a challenge for them.

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James Cameron, Ridley Scott, Stephen Spielberg and others are fully invested in the success of 3D. I think a lot is riding on this Predator 3D release.
Nothing is riding on this release excluding Fox trying to see if they can milk anymore out of their failed experiment.

James Cameron doesn't even care about the current 3D standard since he and Pace are trying to push another proprietary 3D tech at 60fps, while the 48fps format has fallen completely on it's face, and will never be used again for a major theatrical production. (And who the hell knows what decade we will actually see Avatar 2 or 3...)

Then there's the CE industry that has moved on from 3D and is more concerned about 4K at this point, since there's no extra returns for 3D tech.

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Old 07-21-2013, 01:57 AM   #283
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:00 AM   #284
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James Cameron laughs in your face.

James Cameron is a god.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:17 AM   #285
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And aside from Titanic, none of them have really done that well. We're at the point that Disney has abandoned any future 3D conversion plans, besides the Pixar stuff that is done or already in progress... Of course this is the simplest to convert.



The problem with this whole theory is there is no secondary market for 3D, besides Blu-ray, and in-theory, streaming. - 3D broadcast channels are bleeding money, and will probably all be gone by the end of 2014.



I wouldn't say that, Sony would use their own tech, if they cared, but they're dealing with 4k now.

Lionsgate is using Samsung's tech, which apparently is just as bad as JVC's.




Disney as noted, is already done with this, and WB shows no urge to do much conversion of catalog, beside Harry Potter and the urge to annoy Christopher Nolan and try and convert Inception against his wishes.

I'd point out Universal, but let's face it, just getting proper HD masters is a challenge for them.



Nothing is riding on this release excluding Fox trying to see if they can milk anymore out of their failed experiment.

James Cameron doesn't even care about the current 3D standard since he and Pace are trying to push another proprietary 3D tech at 60fps, while the 48fps format has fallen completely on it's face, and will never be used again for a major theatrical production. (And who the hell knows what decade we will actually see Avatar 2 or 3...)

Then there's the CE industry that has moved on from 3D and is more concerned about 4K at this point, since there's no extra returns for 3D tech.

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4K and 3D are not mutually exclusive: "4K could turn out to be the unsung hero in adoption of 3D technology.

The Reason? The resolution of 4K could make glasses-free 3D a genuine possibility. The extra pixels provide a way of delivering the 3D experience without specialist glasses by being able to show two stereoscopic pictures at once and doing clever things with lenticular lenses to show them to each eye (although this means the resulting picture is only 1080p resolution)."

http://aframe.com/blog/2013/06/13/do...-of-3d-glasses

"The problem with this whole theory is there is no secondary market for 3D, besides Blu-ray, and in-theory, streaming. - 3D broadcast channels are bleeding money, and will probably all be gone by the end of 2014." In theory streaming? VUDU has nearly 100 3D movies streaming and Netflix is not far behind. There are even a few Ultraviolet offerings ( the latest Resident Evil for example) This is the market Fox/JVC
wants to supply with these low cost catalog conversions.

http://www.vudu.com/movies/#featured...-Films-on-VUDU

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Old 07-21-2013, 02:20 AM   #286
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Nice 3D, JSmithi82.



A lot has to do with:
a. Fear that a new format will replace a format they just invested in.
b. Eye strain caused a headache the first time they watched 3D.
c. The movie they saw in 3D had weak 3D.

3D and 2D can co-exist together without one having to take over the other. There should always be an option, as not everyone has two eyes or that work as they should.
Yes, you should always have the option of buying the 3d or the 2d. That's why i'm always disgusted to see a movie that contains the 3d, 2d bluray, dvd and digital copy for 40$ and over. When i want a 3d movie, i just want the 3d that's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:21 AM   #287
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James Cameron laughs in your face.
Actually, Cameron is more concerned about studios forcing some directors to use 3D when it isn't warranted (Iron Man 3, Man of Steel):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/...-used-properly
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:35 AM   #288
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My wife went out with her friends tonight, my kid was asleep at 730. All that remained was myself, a 4 pack of chestnut ale, boredom, a fully charged battery, and my 3D camera. So I got creative and made a short 1 minute 3d horror film for all the people that despise the heavy DNR scrubs on movies.

D.N.R. 3D
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Can't believe I wasted my time watching that
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:27 AM   #289
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My wife went out with her friends tonight, my kid was asleep at 730. All that remained was myself, a 4 pack of chestnut ale, boredom, a fully charged battery, and my 3D camera. So I got creative and made a short 1 minute 3d horror film for all the people that despise the heavy DNR scrubs on movies.

D.N.R. 3D
(no film is safe)
DNR 3D - YouTube
I thought it was hilarious and very creative. Just think what you could accomplish with a 12 pack,lol???

Good job Jsmith82! I left a comment on your YouTube page.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:33 PM   #290
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No autographs, please. LOL

My buddy never gave anymore inside info on Predator 3D but together we all pretty much pieced together the facts. Can't wait to see it!
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:52 PM   #291
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I stand corrected, he just shot me this photo. Pretty sure it answers someone's question earlier in the topic - there are only 500 Predator heads.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:34 PM   #292
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I got charged right away. same thing when I bought the I-robot head last year.
They shouldn't have charged you for the pre order. http://www.foxconnect.com/comicconfaq
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:45 PM   #293
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They shouldn't have charged you for the pre order. http://www.foxconnect.com/comicconfaq
My card was also charged, which I wasn't expecting. Ordered from the website.

I saw this predator head and the adamantium wolverine claw collection listed for 89.99 each! on ebay by a guy who was selling a lot of comic-con exclusive merchandise-and he had great rep as well-but unless its an authorized reseller I'd rather not go through any possible hassle on a preorder so I went with foxconnect
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:11 AM   #294
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My card was also charged, which I wasn't expecting. Ordered from the website.

I saw this predator head and the adamantium wolverine claw collection listed for 89.99 each! on ebay by a guy who was selling a lot of comic-con exclusive merchandise-and he had great rep as well-but unless its an authorized reseller I'd rather not go through any possible hassle on a preorder so I went with foxconnect
I called them and they said that it was just a pre authorized charge, to see if the money was in the account. So it should drop in a couple of days, if not I would gave them a call.
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:17 PM   #295
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:48 PM   #296
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That cover looks pretty decent.
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:51 PM   #297
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Not bad, poster art would have been nicer
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:56 PM   #298
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The artwork is at least much better than the previous 2 releases on Blu-ray in my opinion...
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:49 PM   #299
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It will be ironic if you can't see any of that skin texture when you're watching the movie
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:19 PM   #300
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Pretty awesome cover. Can't wait to hear how the transfer looks. I'm pretty happy with the 2008 release. The grain actually adds to the film imo.
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