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Old 05-17-2018, 09:18 PM   #281
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Doesn't really matter to me what the visuals are compared to the Blu-Ray since I've never owned a Blu-ray copy for this. Only a DVD wayyyyy back in 2005 when I was just a child lol.
Oh my god, same. I still remember the previews that played before the DVD. I honestly miss the 2000's Disney...if that isn't nostalgia I don't know what is.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:30 AM   #282
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Oh my god, same. I still remember the previews that played before the DVD. I honestly miss the 2000's Disney...if that isn't nostalgia I don't know what is.
I think that was the only Disney DVD that had the teaser trailer for 'Cars'.
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:23 PM   #283
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So is this movie just another Ultra Upscale-ray release or did they actually re-render it in 4K?

I would've rather had a 3D version than an upscale.
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:27 PM   #284
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So is this movie just another Ultra Upscale-ray release or did they actually re-render it in 4K?

I would've rather had a 3D version than an upscale.
Disney Animation believes 4k resolution serves no purpose. Most CGI and maybe most hand drawn content will be 2k upscales. The color volume and HDR will be the primary drivers of PQ gain. Though, 2k cinema DI's have a bit more res. than 1080p. It's mainly a cost saving decision.
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:10 PM   #285
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Finally got the steelbook pre-ordered today, and I can't wait to get this and watch it before I2 comes out!
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Old 05-24-2018, 05:41 AM   #286
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Well, I will be hunting down steelbooks and keeping all my old Disney and Pixar releases.

The new covers they decided on are ****ing awful. That whole swathe of white play anywhere bullshit is ridiculous. I'm so ****ing sick of the people that do marketing for these companies, and they need to understand how bad they ****ing suck at everything they do.

They are selling 4K discs to basically all of the hardcore movie people. People can ****ing read man. We don't need this bullshit on our slipcovers. I simply cannot and will never understand why they have to **** up artwork with HDR symbols let alone this disaster.

Gross. It makes me want to vomit. All you had to do what leave the slipcover alone!

Wait, I think we need to take up 1/5 of the slipcover to tell them in some white abomination of an overlay because yes our customers are all idiots and have no idea what they are buying! Oh man, the age of insufferably asinine stupidity has begun.

What the digital code inside means I can register it on the internet! OH MY GOD. Like, you should have made it bigger I can't see it! I can't read even! Why am I buying this! Please ruin the artwork to tell me!

Thank god I collected the gorgeous steelbooks over the years. I can only wonder if there will be new ones. I did like the last Coco one, but it did not have 4K. I got the 4K disc, and honestly if this is the new layout for ALL Disney films you can shoot me in the face.

Can you honestly imagine Disney classics like BatB with a play anywhere thing all over it lol? Oh lord. It just makes it look so trashy and cheap.

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Old 05-26-2018, 01:46 AM   #287
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Disney Animation believes 4k resolution serves no purpose. Most CGI and maybe most hand drawn content will be 2k upscales. The color volume and HDR will be the primary drivers of PQ gain. Though, 2k cinema DI's have a bit more res. than 1080p. It's mainly a cost saving decision.
I think they're taking note from all the flops of DC animations on 4k. But given those weren't 3D animations. Hopefully they do scan and release their classics in true 4k though.
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Old 05-26-2018, 01:03 PM   #288
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Disney Animation believes 4k resolution serves no purpose. Most CGI and maybe most hand drawn content will be 2k upscales. The color volume and HDR will be the primary drivers of PQ gain. Though, 2k cinema DI's have a bit more res. than 1080p. It's mainly a cost saving decision.
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I think they're taking note from all the flops of DC animations on 4k. But given those weren't 3D animations. Hopefully they do scan and release their classics in true 4k though.
I don't think it's either of these things, although, cost savings is a big one for now.

Considering most of the general public that isn't on these kinds of forums can't tell the difference between 720p & 1080p, it's probably that the majority of people that view their content don't care. In fact, people, still today, don't know that blu-ray players also play DVDs...recently I checked out disc players at a Target, the boxes have all kinds of symbols on them for what types of discs and streaming content they can play, most brands don't have DVD symbols on the boxes, nor indicate you can play DVDs on them. This is why people still buy DVDs, they upscale on their HDTVs and that's good enough for them. ...Others are switching to streaming/VOD content for convenience sake, for the above reasons and not knowing or caring about PQ & audio quality. It's up to us to show people and help them understand, the studios aren't going to do it, not if they can still sell their product their way.

The thing about HDR and WCG is not that it makes digital better, but, it is still only making it closer to the color and dynamic range of film. We've spent too many years looking at digital video, in the cinema and home, we don't realize what we are missing because they do things like increase contrast or brightness, (and now saturation), to make us think it's better, when it's lower quality PQ tweaked out, (or, even worse, "Vivid" settings on TVs). Before anyone tries to tell me otherwise, remember, some Directors still use film today, not because it's "softer" or "analog" but because it has qualities digital has not reached yet.

That all being said, if the general public catches on that 4K with HDR and WCG is near film quality and they like it, that is, if someone starts doing a lot more 4K VFX or animation, then we will see more 4K DIs from the likes of Disney.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:06 PM   #289
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The standard edition with the slipcover just switched back to June 12 at BB.com.... What a mess. At least now it's reflecting what other retailers have been saying
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Old 05-27-2018, 01:49 PM   #290
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The standard edition with the slipcover just switched back to June 12 at BB.com.... What a mess. At least now it's reflecting what other retailers have been saying
I saw that also, the release date for the non steel book doesn’t make any sense.
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Old 05-27-2018, 02:51 PM   #291
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Too bad they couldn't see their way clear to including the mythical 3D version in this release.

That would have been an instant sale for many 3D (and 4K fans)...
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Old 05-27-2018, 04:37 PM   #292
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The standard edition with the slipcover just switched back to June 12 at BB.com.... What a mess. At least now it's reflecting what other retailers have been saying
It's still June 5th. Disney's official video announcement said as much. Best Buy's just being stupid.
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Old 05-27-2018, 06:17 PM   #293
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I’m really hoping the PQ will be good and worth the upgrade.
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Old 05-27-2018, 06:18 PM   #294
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I’m really hoping the PQ will be good and worth the upgrade.

But the audio will probably be horrible.
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:29 AM   #295
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Well, I will be hunting down steelbooks and keeping all my old Disney and Pixar releases.

The new covers they decided on are ****ing awful. That whole swathe of white play anywhere bullshit is ridiculous. I'm so ****ing sick of the people that do marketing for these companies, and they need to understand how bad they ****ing suck at everything they do.

They are selling 4K discs to basically all of the hardcore movie people. People can ****ing read man. We don't need this bullshit on our slipcovers. I simply cannot and will never understand why they have to **** up artwork with HDR symbols let alone this disaster.

Gross. It makes me want to vomit. All you had to do what leave the slipcover alone!

Wait, I think we need to take up 1/5 of the slipcover to tell them in some white abomination of an overlay because yes our customers are all idiots and have no idea what they are buying! Oh man, the age of insufferably asinine stupidity has begun.

What the digital code inside means I can register it on the internet! OH MY GOD. Like, you should have made it bigger I can't see it! I can't read even! Why am I buying this! Please ruin the artwork to tell me!

Thank god I collected the gorgeous steelbooks over the years. I can only wonder if there will be new ones. I did like the last Coco one, but it did not have 4K. I got the 4K disc, and honestly if this is the new layout for ALL Disney films you can shoot me in the face.

Can you honestly imagine Disney classics like BatB with a play anywhere thing all over it lol? Oh lord. It just makes it look so trashy and cheap.
Disney marketing is anything but amateurish (goodness gracious, have a slurpee and CHILL)

Parents of young kids walking through Target/Walmart and seeing those banners actually helps them understand that they can then play the movie anywhere. On their phone, iPad, tv....Believe it or not, it helps them. Disney is worried about selling to them, and clearly their marketing research is leading them to do this.

I do wish they were removable stickers or something too, as I don’t like them either, but there are much bigger fish to fry on this great spinning mass of land and water we live on.
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Old 05-28-2018, 02:33 AM   #296
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I was charged for my Steelbook today.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:13 AM   #297
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I'm willing to pay full price for Toy Story 1, 2 and 3. I'm glad to see Pixar catalog titles finally seeing the light of day in 4K.
Wait for next year when the fourth one comes out.
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I'm willing to pay full price for Toy Story 1, 2 and 3. I'm glad to see Pixar catalog titles finally seeing the light of day in 4K.
I am going to love what these will look like. I hope they make them spectacular.
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Old 05-29-2018, 02:06 AM   #299
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I am going to love what these will look like. I hope they make them spectacular.
I've seen the first two Toy Story movies so many goddamn times, that I think I can play the whole movies in my head second by second. I don't know if it is even worth buying them yet again because of that.
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So disappointed they didn’t re-render the film for UHD. Maybe when Incredibles 3 is released...
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