Leaving Neverland (2019) - Michael Jackson Sexual Abuse Doc

[lemonski]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

I never said it was okay for a grown man to sleep in a bed with children. Like I said before, he was wrong for that. But not for the reason you're thinking.

And again no, I wouldn't let my kids sleep with a grown man for the reason I stated before, we are taught a very young age of manners and what to do or not do morally. Girls cross their legs when sitting, and don't sit with their legs open, girls also don't sit in other people's laps...etc. it has nothing to do with me thinking they are going to be touched.

Your number 1 job as a parent is to keep your children safe, and that means taking absolutely no risks with their safety whatsoever. That you wouldn't consider that sleepovers in the same bed as a creepy looking 40 year old with a detachable nose could possibly end up in inappropriate touching beggars belief.

The words you are looking for are gullible, naive, irresponsible and reckless.

[Worship.my.wreck]

Originally Posted by lemonski

Your number 1 job as a parent is to keep your children safe, and that means taking absolutely no risks with their safety whatsoever. That you wouldn't consider that sleepovers in the same bed as a creepy looking 40 year old with a detachable nose could possibly end up in inappropriate touching beggars belief.

The words you are looking for are gullible, naive, irresponsible and reckless.

Again I never said it was an okay thing to do, and I wouldn't let my kids sleep with another grown man. Do you have reading comprehension problems?

[Galactus]

Why was my post deleted? All I said was for LordoftheRings to do his own research

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Todd Tomorrow

Having now watched the documentary the interviews are very persuasive and ring true in terms of the psychological effects the abuse had on these two individuals. If this was a con then I wouldn’t expect anything as nuanced.
When you look at the history of these two,along with the director then there is more to their stories.
There's actually nothing new in it,just rehashed old lies,some copies from a book full of proven lies.

I think that anybody who claims that there can be no doubt that Michael Jackson is innocent needs to take a step back and question what they are in support of here. Having doubts is fine, claiming to they know he truth is deeply suspect and comes out of some deep seated bias which is in need of self reflection.

The documentary is made to shock without proving anything,if I went on TV stating this and that happened,somepeople at home are going to believe me.
At the end of the day,some will buy it and others can see through it so we're back to square one.

Originally Posted by lemonski

If it's not acceptable, why are you still defending it? Even if there was no sexual contact, do you think he ever considered for a minute the effect it might have on these kids, or if it was the right thing to do? No. All he was interested in was leveraging his money and celebrity to act out his ridiculous Peter Pan fantasies.

Whatever the state of their moral compass, the bottom line is this: there was only one person who placed them in a position of having to make a decision about which way it pointed, and that was Michael Jackson.

I am defending nothing happened,that's the important part,you are clearly not going to believe anything when you are happy to say that even if nothing happened what about......
You are intent in putting blame on Michael Jackson no matter what.
He was a humanitarian,he helped more people worldwide than you can shake a stick at.

In general he slept on the floor,the kids wanted to stay with the singer but there were times that they shared and nothing happened,its not ideal at all but as long as nothing happened,I'm not going to label someone a paedophile when there is zero proof.

If he was a serial abuser there would be a ton more coming with stories as there was so many opportunities when you take into account the amount of kids that had day trips to Neverland......instead we have people saying nothing happened ever and a few claiming something that want compensated with millions.

Originally Posted by Todd Tomorrow

After Jackson was acquitted I pretty much bought that he was probably innocent. After watching the documentary that has changed and what also has changed is how I will regard anybody who states without doubt that these two are liars. That doesn’t make you or Bullit look to good from where I am standing.

Not really interested in talking to people who are on the side of someone who in all likelihood was a child rapist, so that was my last in this. Have fun wallowing in your moral cesspit !

Have fun wallowing in your over dramatics.
As if I am going to care what you think of me....move along now,nothing to see here.

Sheep.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Why was my post deleted? All I said was for LordoftheRings to do his own research

There was some deleted yesterday too.
When claims of the markings Jordan Chandler drew about MJ's privates matched.
Of course those that aren't gullible enough,know that whole story is fake.

[kylor]

Michael went through court proceedings over the allegations against him and the law ruled him innocent. He died an innocent man. That is a fact, no matter what your opinion is on certain aspects.

Even the guys from this documentary, in the past were speaking in Michael's favor and they were not paid to defend him or talk praises about Michael, even after he died.

[Spooked]

How many people participating in all of this discussion have actually seen the documentary?