Scream 4K UHD (1996)

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by Mierzwiak

It's not identical and you're being delusional now, which is extremely annoying.

There was no call for that.

The movue censorship page made it clear.

[kannibaliztik]

Originally Posted by slimjean

There was no call for that.

The movue censorship page made it clear.

Yes, it's clear this is the theatrical cut.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by kannibaliztik

Yes, it's clear this is the theatrical cut.

Aye. The first bit in the moviecensorship citation for this sequence says Additional footage in the R-Rated and literally shows her head getting chonked by the door for an extra frame earlier in the R-rated cut, then goes on to say that the unrated lingers on her crushed bonce for an extra five frames. That's the difference between the two, just a handful of frames.

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Aye. The first bit in the moviecensorship citation for this sequence says Additional footage in the R-Rated and literally shows her head getting chonked by the door for an extra frame earlier in the R-rated cut, then goes on to say that the unrated lingers on her crushed bonce for an extra five frames. That's the difference between the two, just a handful of frames.

I am not saying her head doesn't get crushed but you literally see her eyes and all that get smashed.

In that shot on the cebdored version they only show it for a second. As movie censorship shows and as I saw it for years on VHS I never saw it so plain.

The 4K also shows her eyes crush and all that.

That is my reasoning. The 5 frames are shown on the 4K.

[BillieCassin]

It's amazing the difference a few frames can make. IMO, the theatrical Doggie Door effect is much better than the uncut version, those extra frames reveal the fake rubber head for what it is. Kind of like the Bacon effect in F13th.

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

It's amazing the difference a few frames can make. IMO, the theatrical Doggie Door effect is much better than the uncut version, those extra frames reveal the fake rubber head for what it is. Kind of like the Bacon effect in F13th.

BUT the fake rubber head is on the 4K. It is what it is.

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by slimjean

BUT the fake rubber head is on the 4K. It is what it is.

It appears you have the only 4K disc in the entire world which contains the unrated cut of Tatum's death scene. That is amazing!

[kannibaliztik]

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

It appears you have the only 4K disc in the entire world which contains the unrated cut of Tatum's death scene. That is amazing!

How about the fact that the fake rubber head is not on the theatrical VHS?

How about the fact that movie censorship clearly states the fact?

Does anyone here know how to understand the illustration?

The rubber head on the right is not in the theatrical cut. The 4K disc has it. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

[Mierzwiak]

Originally Posted by slimjean

Does anyone here know how to understand the illustration?

Do you know that ONE photo is not a representation of MULTIPLE frames in the film?

For the last time: the UHD has the theatrical cut and Tatum's death always looked like that.

End of f*cking story.

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by Mierzwiak

Do you know that ONE photo is not a representation of MULTIPLE frames in the film?

For the last time: the UHD has the theatrical cut and Tatum's death always looked like that.

End of f*cking story.

Yeah, it's pretty well established that the same shot in both - it's that the uncut version lingers just ever so bit longer because of those extra frames, just long enough for you to realize (more easily) that it is a rubber head. Hence the comparison to the Bacon scene in F13th - as here, too, a little bit less can actually be more.

But...it's always been a rubber head, LOL.

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

Yeah, it's pretty well established that the same shot in both - it's that the uncut version lingers just ever so bit longer because of those extra frames, just long enough for you to realize (more easily) that it is a rubber head. Hence the comparison to the Bacon scene in F13th - as here, too, a little bit less can actually be more.

But...it's always been a rubber head, LOL.

Right so why is it so clear now when it never was before?

I never saw the head crush before. It never showed it at all.

Man I am about to go to a pawn shop to find that old VHS.

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by slimjean

Right so why is it so clear now when it never was before?

I never saw the head crush before. It never showed it at all.

Man I am about to go to a pawn shop to find that old VHS.

I dunno man, maybe you had some wonky tape, LOL.

I've been watching this movie for 25 years, and I've seen it way more than (wait for it) "twenty g-damn times!", and that shot as been in every version I've ever seen, from theaters till now. The difference is, on the laserdisc uncut version, it is ever so slightly longer. Even now, it's still clearly a rubber head - but in the uncut version, it squishes so unnaturally as to be beyond credulity.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by slimjean

How about the fact that the fake rubber head is not on the theatrical VHS?

How about the fact that movie censorship clearly states the fact?

Does anyone here know how to understand the illustration?

The rubber head on the right is not in the theatrical cut. The 4K disc has it. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

Slim, I don't want to get into a slanging match so don't take this personally based on our past interactions, but it's you who isn't understanding the illustration. For the first part of where this scene is mentioned on moviecensorship they show two frames - garage door on left, head getting squished on the right - which are only in the R-rated version, it literally says this. So you're confusing the 'r-rated on left/unrated on right' layout of other parts of the article for what that first part is showing you, whereas what they're actually doing is showing two frames from the same version. Makes sense?

[JPLeon]

If you play the YouTube video at 0.25x, it clearly states what the page is illustrating. The r rated version starts the head crushing a bit earlier but then is missing some footage of the fake head in the middle of the scene. Then it joins the unrated version back in at the end with the last frames of her head being electrocuted. The 4k, is the r-rated cut. Period

[Geoff D]

Exactly.

[MuffinMcFluffin]

I still have the VHS somewhere. What I'm missing is a VCR.

slimjean, do you have the old Blu-ray? What say you on that version?

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Slim, I don't want to get into a slanging match so don't take this personally based on our past interactions, but it's you who isn't understanding the illustration. For the first part of where this scene is mentioned on moviecensorship they show two frames - garage door on left, head getting squished on the right - which are only in the R-rated version, it literally says this. So you're confusing the 'r-rated on left/unrated on right' layout of other parts of the article for what that first part is showing you, whereas what they're actually doing is showing two frames from the same version. Makes sense?

No in the r-rated version it shows garage door and her head. NO SQUISH.

Then it joins on the left where you see the fuzzy frame.

The rubber head squish is only in theunrated footage on the right.

The picture is clearly Rose on the R-Rated version.

At no point does it say on movie censorship that the rubber head squish exists in the theatrical. Matter of fact they clearly show the frames are cut out.

What is there to confuse?

Originally Posted by JPLeon

If you play the YouTube video at 0.25x, it clearly states what the page is illustrating. The r rated version starts the head crushing a bit earlier but then is missing some footage of the fake head in the middle of the scene. Then it joins the unrated version back in at the end with the last frames of her head being electrocuted. The 4k, is the r-rated cut. Period

The video doesn't prove that the 4K can have an additional shot. I never totally claimed it is full unrated. I say it has this element of the unrated in it.

The video does not prove it is theatrical. I saw in theater and VHS tons of times. Never saw the rubber head squish until laserdisc.

Btw the top part of the video is way to clear to be the VHS version which on the VHS tape is more likely the true theatrical cut.

Originally Posted by MuffinMcFluffin

I still have the VHS somewhere. What I'm missing is a VCR.

slimjean, do you have the old Blu-ray? What say you on that version?

The bluray has the rubber head squish too. I was hoping 4K would go back to how it should be.

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by slimjean

No in the r-rated version it shows garage door and her head. NO SQUISH.

This is absolutely, positively incorrect. The R-rated version does show it; it's just a few frames shorter. This is how it was in theaters (I saw it multiple times). This is how it was on the original Blu-ray. This is how it is on the 25th anniversary Blu-ray/4K.

[silkandskin]

How about a PG-13 relationship?