The Predator (2018)

[Mr. Chaverria]

I got the 4K 4 film collection.

1 is 1, it's badass.

2 isn't that bad. It's half good, at least. Adds culture and lore to the Predator culture. Unfortunately most the script is shit and stupid w/ the gangs and etc. Talk about stereotyping to the point of ignorance. Harrigan is alright. I don't mind him being a cop in LA. I just don't know why they thought it'd be good to try to date it as being in the future, horrible idea made worse by the styles and cultures they put in.

3 is a pseduo reboot/remake. It's got cool ideas but poor execution. I mostly enjoy it but it's a half assed attempt brought down by it's attempt to just ape the first one. \

4... holy shit. I'm 51 minutes in and the kid is killing me. Did Black really think that kid was a great idea. But his son is shit and him being "autistic" or whatever? Adds nothing to any sort of depth or value to the plot. I can't tell if Sniper dad is any good. He's ok. Might be the worst lead for this franchise. His unit of Loonies though are ok. Religious ddue is a bit too crazy for me. Olivia Munn got a character who in certain ways is interesting but still pretty mediocre.

I'll see how it goes for me as I trek on.

[brooks101189]

Originally Posted by Mr. Chaverria

2 isn't that bad. It's half good, at least. Adds culture and lore to the Predator culture. Unfortunately most the script is shit and stupid w/ the gangs and etc. Talk about stereotyping to the point of ignorance. Harrigan is alright. I don't mind him being a cop in LA. I just don't know why they thought it'd be good to try to date it as being in the future, horrible idea made worse by the styles and cultures they put in.

I've always enjoyed Predator 2 more than the other sequels. No one really says it, but despite the violence, it's significantly and noticeably more humorous than the other entries. Oh, it's not a comedy, but it does appear they tried to take a more satirical path.

[Mr. Chaverria]

**** me.

4 is a ***** to get through, and I did. Oooooof. I'd love to hear what that production was cuz I can't believe Black supported all of that.

[Deadend45]

Sorry if this has been asked before and I tried searching the thread but I am wondering if the Predator: 4-Movie Blu-ray Collection has the older first film BD disc or is a new master since the collection was released after the UHD edition came out, if I am reading it correctly.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Preda...lu-ray/220538/

[hasslein]

The scene where Olivia Munn first meets the team is hilarious, and is my favorite scene in the entire Predator franchise...

[Deadend45]

Originally Posted by Deadend45

Sorry if this has been asked before and I tried searching the thread but I am wondering if the Predator: 4-Movie Blu-ray Collection has the older first film BD disc or is a new master since the collection was released after the UHD edition came out, if I am reading it correctly.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Preda...lu-ray/220538/

Going by this it looks like the old disc cause it has 'hunter edition' on the case.

Predator: 4-Movie Collection - Blu-ray Box Set Unboxing + Review | Rick Adams - YouTube

[mjvmovieman]

Originally Posted by Deadend45

Sorry if this has been asked before and I tried searching the thread but I am wondering if the Predator: 4-Movie Blu-ray Collection has the older first film BD disc or is a new master since the collection was released after the UHD edition came out, if I am reading it correctly.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Preda...lu-ray/220538/

It's the Ultimate Hunter disc. I would love it if they put out a 1080p remaster disc.

[mtrot]

Are the subtitles supposed to work on the Blu-ray disc? There are two options for English subtitles in the menu, but the subtitles do not appear on the screen for some reason. Rented the disc from Netflix, if that matters. Every other disc I get from Netflix has the subtitles working. Oppo 203.

[JediJones77]

Originally Posted by levcore

I think The Predator is decent enough, it's a fun action sci fi at the very least.

Yep, thank God he didn't try to imitate the original. I'm glad he went more over-the-top and made it funnier. Action movies often have a tradition of getting funnier as the sequels go on, just like Lethal Weapon. It worked here. It was just a fun romp. It was a lot like Venom, sloppy, wild, crazy, dumb, silly, violent fun that doesn't take itself too seriously.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

Ironically, once Arnold is the only one left on screen versus the Predator, the movie shifts from R to PG-13.

To be expected. Only two combatants left. Killing the Predator versus having it kill itself in a massive explosion would have been a terrible letdown

[Blu-21]

Just watched The Predator (2018) before I check out the well acclaimed prequel Prey (2022). In short this was the worst Predator film I've seen, and yes I include AVP and AVP.R in that. AVP.R was objectively bad on every metric but at least it was trashy entertainment unlike this.

One dimensional, unmemorable characters that constantly try to one up each other with comedy 24/7 even during so-called 'intense' moments, frustrated me that little to nothing is taken seriously most of the time especially during the last act. The 10-foot ' Upgrade Predator' which is a next step up from the 'Super Predator' in Predators (2010), is what gives CGI a bad rep, the rendering and animation is embarrassing. Predators (2010) is worlds better in the VFX department despite being 8 years older and on a smaller budget.


The plot is stupid and preachy with its messaging on climate change which involves the 'Classic Predator' coming to earth to warn and protect humans about the 10-foot ' Upgrade Predator' who wants to hunt humans and collect human DNA samples to experiment with hybrids before the human race becomes instinct so the 'Upgrade Predator' species can inhabit the earth.

The 'Classic Predator' is once again killed by the 'Upgrade Predator' just like in Predators (2010) when the 'Super Predator' killed the wounded 'Classic Predator' as well, but the idea in this film is that the Classic Pred had a secret weapon suit on board its ship that pretty much turns any human into the Iron Man version of a Predator themselves, (nicknamed the Predator killer suit), so that the humans have a chance to fight back vs the 'Ultimate Predator', and the 'Ultimate Predator' was trying to hunt down the 'Classic Predator' to prevent the secret weapon being given to the humans. It's all pretty lame.

I also hate how the humans can effortlessly use the Predator weapons against the Predator so easily like the plasma caster, the mask, and the cloaking device, completely devalues the technology.

The Predator 'dogs' is not such a bad concept but in this film the execution was poor. Much prefer the Hell-Hounds in Predators (2010).

I know the production was deeply troubled with lots of reshoots, script rewrites and creative differences with studio interference etc, but there is no excuse for the film being this bad.

Glad that Prey (2022) is going back in time (set over 300 years before even the original film) instead of forward in time like Predator 2 (1990), AVP (2004), AVP.R (2007), Predators (2010) and The Predator (2018) because these sequels and spin-offs to the original Predator (1987) prove that there is no where left to go.

[Zillamon51]

Just finished a week-long marathon.

Predator
Predator 2
Predators
AvP: R
AvP
The Predator

Haven't watched Prey yet. This week, definitely!

[voltz]

Predator>Predator 2>Predators>AVP2>The Predator

That's my order and people need to stop dissing 2, it's great.

[Blu-21]

1. Predator (1987)
2. Predators (2010)
3. Predator 2 (1990)
4. AVP. (2004)
5. AVP.R (2007)
























6. The Predator (2018)

[levcore]

1. Predator
2. Predator 2
3. Prey
4. Alien vs Predator
5. The Predator
6. Alien vs Predator: Requiem
7. Predators

[Kylo_Ren]

See, I just don't get how some can rank AVP: Requiem over The Predator, but to each their own.

Sure, The Predator is probably the weakest of the mainline sequels, but I still rank it over Requiem. At least The Predator had a more competent cast, was lit properly, and was directed/shot by someone with more experience. They tried to do something different. It's pretty much a "comic book movie" take on a Predator film. Had they not altered the third act before release, perhaps it could have turned out better.

Requiem, on the other hand, was just a disaster to me on nearly all fronts and a huge letdown despite my already lowered expectations at the time. It was and still is (on rewatching it) poorly lit, sloppily edited, and badly acted. The action was shot in a disorienting way and the choreography was very weak. The coolest thing to come out of that film was the concept of the "Predalien," but even that was largely wasted and went nowhere in the end.

The first AVP, though, I enjoy as silly fun. It's an enjoyable ride if not taken seriously and at least they tried to do something interesting with that one in terms of the setting and the lore.

[erixon20]

Originally Posted by voltz

Predator>Predator 2>Predators>AVP2>The Predator

That's my order and people need to stop dissing 2, it's great.

Predators 2 IS the next best Predator after original.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Kylo_Ren

See, I just don't get how some can rank AVP: Requiem over The Predator, but to each their own.

Sure, The Predator is probably the weakest of the mainline sequels, but at least it had a competent cast, was lit properly, and was directed/shot by someone with more experience. They tried to do something different and had not the third act been altered, perhaps it could have turned out better.

Requiem, on the other hand, was just a disaster to me on nearly all fronts and a huge letdown despite my already lowered expectations at the time. It was and still is (on rewatching it) poorly lit, sloppily edited, badly acted, the action was shot in a disorienting way, and the choreography was very weak. The coolest thing to come out of that film was the concept of the "Predalien," but even that was largely wasted and went nowhere in the end.

The first AVP, though, I enjoy as silly fun. It's an enjoyable ride if not taken seriously and at least they tried to do something interesting with that one.

Probably the weakest? No doubt about it that it is, it's not even in the vicinity of the other Predators, and yeah I'd rather watch Requiem... even with the indecipherablly dark scenes. Requiem didn't have the pedigree to be good, but it's enjoyable for stupid cheap thrills. No one expected anything out of first time Strauss Brothers.

The Predator is an unbelievably inept movie made by people who shoulda known better, that not only has an identity crisis, but it makes not a lick of sense. That Group 2 felt like they belonged to a whole other movie, like a lame A-Team reboot or something. The renegade predator didn't know whether to help the humans or kill them, so of course no brainer he just decided on doin both "here have this Iron Predator suit while I take you fv<kers apart". Speaking of which, that ending was embarrassing.

Also what the hell was Shane's deal with using mental disabilities like that? Surprised he didn't use people with Down Syndrome for target practice.

The Predator is just all sorts of wrong, it doesn't have the cadence, the tone, the feel, or the simple brilliance of plotting of a real Predator sequel. Shane Black shat the proverbial bed on this one. One of the biggest misfires or all time.

[Kylo_Ren]

Originally Posted by jess1581

Probably the weakest? No doubt about it that it is, it's not even in the vicinity of the other Predators, and yeah I'd rather watch Requiem... even with the indecipherablly dark scenes. Requiem didn't have the pedigree to be good, but it's enjoyable for stupid cheap thrills. No one expected anything out of first time Strauss Brothers.

I am not defending The Predator and don't find it cinematic "art" or anything. Don't get me wrong. I'd say it's definitely the weakest out of the mainline sequels, but personally I can't rank it under Requiem. To me, Requiem is the bottom of the barrel of the franchise. I'd rather watch The Predator again and just skip some parts here and there. There is admittedly some humor in there that is in bad taste, but more on that later. However, from a technical standpoint (shots, composition, lighting, camerawotk, etc.), to me, The Predator gets the edge and is more watchable. It also at least tries to do something different and is kind of bats$#t crazy. Requiem is just so bland, uninspired, and cliché from the characters to the setting to the overall plot. It just reeks of laziness and feels like there was no passion behind it. At least with The Predator, it felt like Shane Black just went for it.

The Predator is an unbelievably inept movie made by people who shoulda known better, that not only has an identity crisis, but it makes not a lick of sense. That Group 2 felt like they belonged to a whole other movie, like a lame A-Team reboot or something. The renegade predator didn't know whether to help the humans or kill them, so of course no brainer he just decided on doin both "here have this Iron Predator suit while I take you fv<kers apart". Speaking of which, that ending was embarrassing.

I somewhat disagree on it having an "identity crisis." I don't think that was the case necessarily. I think that film just went for this weird tone that some may view as schizophrenic, so I can't blame them for that. But that very tone, once you pinpoint it, is consistent throughout the entire film, I feel. And the film itself is mostly about the Loonies with the Predators being sort of side characters for better or worse.

As for your point, I haven't seen it in a long time and need to refresh my memory, but the weapon he left probably wasn't meant for the very same people trying to kill him. I believe he kills some because either he perceives they are trying to kill him first (like in the lab) or are standing/getting in the way of his escape and acquisition of his lost tech. But again, I need to rewatch it some time. And that ending was possibly reshot in post production.

I think the first act is surprisingly solid. Act 2 is where it takes a hit, likely where there were edits and rewrites in post production. And Act 3 is what really hurts the film. That was altered big time. Perhaps that's where the identity crisis comes in since the last third was originally meant to be a very different film with Predators supposedly teaming up with the human characters against the "Super" Predator.

Also what the hell was Shane's deal with using mental disabilities like that? Surprised he didn't use people with Down Syndrome for target practice.

Yeah, I agree that some of the humor was in really bad taste. There are some parts of the film that I would have just cut out completely.

The Predator is just all sorts of wrong, it doesn't have the cadence, the tone, the feel, or the simple brilliance of plotting of a real Predator sequel. Shane Black sh@$ the proverbial bed on this one. One of the biggest misfires or all time.

I think it was obvious that Black, to our surprise at the time, was not going for anything even close to the prior Predator films. Aside from the more traditional Act 1 sequence in the jungle, this film had more in common with a wacky comic book movie than the '87 original with Arnold. Did all of it work? Not even close. But at least I respect the attempt at trying to do something different here. If I squint hard enough, I can somewhat see what Black was probably going for. Requiem, on the other hand, just has no ambitions at all. It's not even trying if you ask me. It's so by-the-numbers with poor execution and just feels lazy, like a direct to DVD film. The Predator at least got a reaction out of people, whether good or bad, and is more memorable in the end. haha Anyways, that's just my take on it. And again, I am by no means saying that The Predator was a "great" film here. I just prefer it over Requiem.

[-JKR-]

Originally Posted by Kylo_Ren

I am not defending The Predator and don't find it cinematic "art" or anything. Don't get me wrong. I'd say it's definitely the weakest out of the mainline sequels, but personally I can't rank it under Requiem. To me, Requiem is the bottom of the barrel of the franchise. I'd rather watch The Predator again and just skip some parts here and there. There is admittedly some humor in there that is in bad taste, but more on that later. However, from a technical standpoint (shots, composition, lighting, camerawotk, etc.), to me, The Predator gets the edge and is more watchable. It also at least tries to do something different and is kind of bats$#t crazy. Requiem is just so bland, uninspired, and cliché from the characters to the setting to the overall plot. It just reeks of laziness and feels like there was no passion behind it. At least with The Predator, it felt like Shane Black just went for it.

I somewhat disagree on it having an "identity crisis." I don't think that was the case necessarily. I think that film just went for this weird tone that some may view as schizophrenic, so I can't blame them for that. But that very tone, once you pinpoint it, is consistent throughout the entire film, I feel. And the film itself is mostly about the Loonies with the Predators being sort of side characters for better or worse.

As for your point, I haven't seen it in a long time and need to refresh my memory, but the weapon he left probably wasn't meant for the very same people trying to kill him. I believe he kills some because either he perceives they are trying to kill him first (like in the lab) or are standing/getting in the way of his escape and obtainment of his lost tech. But again, I need to rewatch it some time. And that ending was possibly reshot in post production.

I think the first act is surprisingly solid. Act 2 is where it takes a hit, likely where there were edits and rewrites in post production. And Act 3 is what really hurts the film. That was altered big time. Perhaps that's where the identity crisis comes in since the last third was originally meant to be a very different film with Predators supposedly teaming up with the human characters against the "Super" Predator.

Yeah, I agree that some of the humor was in really bad taste. There are some parts of the film that I would have just cut out completely.

I think it was obvious that Black, to our surprise at the time, was not going for anything even close to the prior Predator films. Aside from the more traditional Act 1 sequence in the jungle, this film had more in common with a wacky comic book movie than the '87 original with Arnold. Did all of it work? Not even close. But at least I respect the attempt at trying to do something different here. If I squint hard enough, I can somewhat see what Black was probably going for. Requiem, on the other hand, just has no ambitions at all. It's not even trying if you ask me. It's so by-the-numbers and feels lazy, like a direct to DVD film. The Predator at least got a reaction out of people, whether good or bad, and is more memorable in the end. haha Anyways, that's just my take on it. And again, I am by no means saying that The Predator was a "great" film here. I just prefer it over Requiem.

And one of the reasons you gotta squint for Shane Black's vision is that past the first act the movie was largely reduced to the bare minimum, rewritten and reshot.

It's missing its actual plot, and several subplots (including one feat. Edward James Olmos as bad guy) and set pieces that Black had originally shot.