First Blood / Rambo: First Blood Part II / Rambo III 4K UHDs (1982-1988)

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by PinkyCarruthers

I recently double dipped on the StudioCanal Part II for the superior encode extolled by Geoff a few pages back (also for the cover artwork). I figured for sure this set would be announced the very next day but it appears my sacrifice was in vain.

Sorry, I tried....

Not hard enough, apparently. Buy it again.

[jordanjabroni]

Originally Posted by PinkyCarruthers

Say what you want about Cosmatos, he defined Rambo for a generation.

Can a ghost director really 'define' a movie?

[CreasyBear]

The first film is a story that feels visceral and viable, about the trauma and turmoil manifested through the intense physicality and violence of John Rambo, a lowly Vietnam vet, inflicted upon the status quo.

The other films are cartoons. They can be fun in spurts, but you can't take them seriously.

[jordanjabroni]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

The first film is a story that feels visceral and viable, about the trauma and turmoil manifested through the intense physicality and violence of John Rambo, a lowly Vietnam vet, inflicted upon the status quo.

The other films are cartoons. They can be fun in spurts, but you can't take them seriously.

The extended cut of Rambo is definitely not a cartoon. It's a nightmare.

[Dr. T]

Originally Posted by jordanjabroni

The extended cut of Rambo is definitely not a cartoon. It's a nightmare.

That reminds me, will the Rambo cartoon be included on the new set?

[willo007]

Originally Posted by jordanjabroni

Can a ghost director really 'define' a movie?

Here is Kurt Russell directing Rambo First Blood Part II on the set:













Pretty darn good for a ghost director!!!

[jordanjabroni]

Originally Posted by willo007

Here is Kurt Russell directing Rambo First Blood Part II on the set:

I'm sure this joke made sense in your head, but it's not translating.

Kurt Russell directed Tombstone while Cosmatos acted as ghost director. He was picked for the role as replacement director due to his previous ghost direction on Cobra and First Blood Part II.

However, I hadn't even mentioned Russell yet so I don't know what you're trying to prove. Kurt even described in an interview how he ran each shot through with Cosmatos early so that Cosmatos could confidently direct Russell's vision through the day.

Are you trying to say that because Cosmatos is shown in these photos that he wasn't just doing what Stallone told him to do?

[mulscul]

also michael biehn did an interview on a podcast called Inside of you(its on youtube)...he had harsh words about cosmatos....think also Michael rooker had some words about it an interview with that platform as well

MICHAEL BIEHN: Hit Rock Bottom, Facing Off with James Cameron, Trouble on Tombstone & More Stories! - YouTube

[notops]

Originally Posted by jordanjabroni

It says a lot that I watched Rambo: Last Blood and My Name is Bruce in the same night and Last Blood looked no better.

Aesthetically, Last Blood is pure DTV junk

[PinkyCarruthers]

Originally Posted by jordanjabroni

Kurt Russell directed Tombstone while Cosmatos acted as ghost director. He was picked for the role as replacement director due to his previous ghost direction on Cobra and First Blood Part II.

But . . . who directed Leviathan? Daniel Stern? It's a shadow conspiracy, I tell ya!

[willo007]

Originally Posted by jordanjabroni

I'm sure this joke made sense in your head, but it's not translating.

Kurt Russell directed Tombstone while Cosmatos acted as ghost director. He was picked for the role as replacement director due to his previous ghost direction on Cobra and First Blood Part II.

However, I hadn't even mentioned Russell yet so I don't know what you're trying to prove. Kurt even described in an interview how he ran each shot through with Cosmatos early so that Cosmatos could confidently direct Russell's vision through the day.

Are you trying to say that because Cosmatos is shown in these photos that he wasn't just doing what Stallone told him to do?

Here is the thing; Kurt did not have before or after a director's credit and waited until Cosmatos passed to say he directed the movie and am willing to bet he is waiting for John Carpenter to die so he can say he directed The Thing, Escape From New York and L.A.!

And unlike what Kurt said, Val says the opposite. + There is pictures and footage out there to collaborate Cosmanos directed both Rambo 2 and Tombstone. And 0 pictures or footage of Kurt directing Tombstone.

But people act like its true because Kurt said so, Kurt brought a lot to the film, just like Tom Cruise brings a lot to his sets. Kurt had a lot of saying on the set but that did not make him the director.

But you believe Kurt and the people who want to have a soundbite so their podcast gets more views. All I ask is bring me a picture of Kurt on the set calling the shots?

You know some actual evidence, something like this:



When you do, I'll believe you, until then is just "Trust Me Bro News"

[notops]

Originally Posted by PinkyCarruthers

But . . . who directed Leviathan? Daniel Stern? It's a shadow conspiracy, I tell ya!

Shadow Conspiracy is so bad, it HAD to be directed by Cosmatos

[notops]

I had a friend who was in the opening scene of Cobra. He said Cosmatos was there yelling at people (himself included for ad-libbing part of his line on the first take). So the stories of Stallone only directing the scenes where he was on camera seem true to me

[DMRI2006]

Really don't want to derail this thread further but TOMBSTONE was a troubled production and also a movie where the director was the writer and, as good as the script was, apparently he couldn't hack it as a director so he was removed quickly into filming. With Cosmatos' hiring, based on its production history alone, you can certainly argue how much influence he really had over the final product (which IMO was a good thing based on most of the junk he made throughout his career).

Cosmatos certainly didn't imprint his "vision" on the movie -- he had zero to do with the story, its development, the casting, he had to show up and be a technician really. That he did and he deserves credit for it, but I don't doubt that Russell and others took control in larger sense once Kevin Jarre was removed. I have no reason to think Russell is creating a "tall tale" there either, because his larger point was that an even better movie existed on the cutting room floor that we never saw, and that he wished would be reconstructed one day. My guess is that it more resembled Jarre's original script than what ended up in the finished film. As much as I like TOMBSTONE, there's no question the released cut is uneven and ragged in places.

Plus Cosmatos, who you could argue was a hack through most of his career, was also at the end of it there. That he followed it with the horrifically bad SHADOW CONSPIRACY kind of makes you think that TOMBSTONE really was a "creative collaboration" and needed extensive input from Russell and others to finish it. I'm not sure we're even talking about the movie today if Cosmatos had full creative control of the project before it started shooting. (Also, that the movie studio puts out publicity photos of Cosmatos directing doesn't mean anything. Most publicity photos ARE staged! That said I'm sure he was good at staging and executing the action scenes in the movie if nothing else).

No matter what, that movie turned out as well as it did given how "troubled" a rep it had before it was released was surprising back at the time. Going into 1993, Kevin Costner's upcoming WYATT EARP, because he was coming off DANCES WITH WOLVES, was all most people were talking about, and yet it ended up being outgrossed and certainly more appreciated by fans by TOMBSTONE. Nowadays very few people care about Costner's movie, but there are a lot of fans of the latter.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by PinkyCarruthers

But . . . who directed Leviathan? Daniel Stern? It's a shadow conspiracy, I tell ya!

The sticky bandit strikes again!

[Rayjg]

Picture of Kurt making a rectangle with his hands and looking seriously through it or it didn’t happen.

[Markgway]

Originally Posted by PinkyCarruthers

And that dialogue -- ugh.

"Where are the MISSILES?!"
"In your ass."

Is it wrong that I find this funny?

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by notops

I had a friend who was in the opening scene of Cobra. He said Cosmatos was there yelling at people (himself included for ad-libbing part of his line on the first take). So the stories of Stallone only directing the scenes where he was on camera seem true to me

It wouldn't surprise me if Cosmatos was drinking half of the time on set. lol

[sa5150]

Is there a new set announced ? I see only the best buy OOP set has DV .

[mikey horror]