Superman: The Movie 4K UHD (1978)

[ShellBeacher]

Originally Posted by yanksno1

Went off the picture up-thread that showed I, II & III with no mention of IV yet. That's how I came to that conclusion. Hope you're right and it's a full box set.

The pic I think you're referring to is an olllllllld ad for Theatrical releases from the 1980s. Not for any contemporary/recent re-releases.

[TWIN-FR]

Interesting news. Can't wait for the official announcement. I would not root for a big set, but rather individual releases.

I would be very interested in a new edition of Superman: The Movie, with TC and SE in 4K, plus the TV 3-hour cut BD, plus the previous TC/SE BDs from the Anthology with all the extras.

Same for Superman II with TC and RDC in 4K (if RDC can be refined further or if the TV cut can be added, it would be even greater) and same than S:TM for the Anthology BDs.

No interest at all in III and IV.

But if Superman Returns can have its original opening edited back in 4K (plus all its extras), that would make the third individual buy for me.

[Ben_UK]

Originally Posted by rubystone356

there happens to be 2 version of the Donner cut.. the one version includes more lester footage that many fans want before it was cut.

vudu has that version. its possible they could use that version.
https://www.capedwonder.com/superman...te-donner-cut/

Jacob

I had no idea an alternate cut existed so thanks for that link. At this point I just think they should start with the theatrical cut and then insert as much Donner footage as they can without breaking the film. The blank bullets scene just doesn’t work for me in that the footage is just too low quality, plus the 2006 CGI shots look awful. One of the most annoying changes are the “updated” sound effects and foley sounds, they should have stuck with the stock 80s era sound effects.

[Steel76]

I only watched the Donner Cut once.
Just didn't work at all for me, as it still felt like a rough fan cut.

The theatrical cut is much more entertaining.

[batman2000]

I wish we knew what Richard donner had planned for the ending of Superman 2 instead of the rewind time ending they had no choice to have to use for the donner cut.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by batman2000

I wish we knew what Richard donner had planned for the ending of Superman 2 instead of the rewind time ending they had no choice to have to use for the donner cut.

I think we have some inkling already on the old ABC TV cut, which is the closest to a hybrid of the Donner and Lester versions we have so far outside of fan made edits... albeit without the Brando footage and added Metropolis fight footage as seen in the Donner Cut since one was a rights issue and the other was the fact the effects were not completed at that time.

[Ben_UK]

In my view, they have to go with the Paris sequence, the pink bear reveal for two reasons;

1, The inserted cgi footage of the missile going into space and then spinning looks terrible (this means they need to use the Eiffel Tower elevator release method)

2, the blank bullets scene is too low quality.

I know now it’s been 15 years since the Donner Cut. I do wonder with the advent of things like deepfake technology if that could have been used to patch some holes that would have been impossible in 2006?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Ben_UK

In my view, they have to go with the Paris sequence, the pink bear reveal for two reasons;

1, The inserted cgi footage of the missile going into space and then spinning looks terrible (this means they need to use the Eiffel Tower elevator release method)

2, the blank bullets scene is too low quality.

I know now it’s been 15 years since the Donner Cut. I do wonder with the advent of things like deepfake technology if that could have been used to patch some holes that would have been impossible in 2006?

The reason the blank bullets scene was low quality was because that was just footage shot during a test screening with Reeve and Kidder to see what kind of chemistry they had together.



The Paris and Niagara Falls sequences from Lester would indeed have to be used in any eventual fusion cut.

[Dr. T]

Originally Posted by Ben_UK

1, The inserted cgi footage of the missile going into space and then spinning looks terrible (this means they need to use the Eiffel Tower elevator release method)

You don't like the CG "XK-10" rocket in The Donner Cut?

And yes it's awful, especially since it's supposed to say "XK-101."

[grahams76]

It’s been over a decade since I watched it but the main problem I had with the Donner cut - aside from the atrocious new CGI / unfinished scenes - was it had the same ending as the first film.

[Deciazulado]

Btw, the listing of the S III 4K ASIN is actually in amazon.uk's S II formats group not on S III's ..

[TWIN-FR]

Originally Posted by Steel76

I only watched the Donner Cut once.
Just didn't work at all for me, as it still felt like a rough fan cut.

The theatrical cut is much more entertaining.

The RDC is indeed an incomplete version, but the closest to the original director's intentions. Its history value is very important. Anyway none of the two versions of Supes II can be completely satisfying.

Originally Posted by grahams76

It’s been over a decade since I watched it but the main problem I had with the Donner cut - aside from the atrocious new CGI / unfinished scenes - was it had the same ending as the first film.

True indeed. For me, the best solution would have been to trim the ending of Supes I SE to its original idea (no Loïs dying) so that I could be paired with the RDC ending of Supes II (going back time) without redondance.

And you keep SI TC and SII TC unspoiled so that you get the best of both worlds.

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Btw, the listing of the S III 4K ASIN is actually in amazon.uk's S II formats group not on S III's ..

I don't get it, what do you mean?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by TWIN-FR

I don't get it, what do you mean?

That we should temper our expectations.

Interesting I was reading a review of the original's home video release and it was actually sped up to fit on the cassette, so the USA had a little taste of PAL speed-up without pitch correction!

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by TWIN-FR

I don't get it, what do you mean?

I think that meant the Amazon ID number lines up with other Superman II BD entries.

either that or the funnel had a busy night.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by grahams76

It’s been over a decade since I watched it but the main problem I had with the Donner cut - aside from the atrocious new CGI / unfinished scenes - was it had the same ending as the first film.

Because it was the intended ending of the second movie...

But when things between Donner and the Salkinds went south, they decided to use the most spectacular effect for the end of the first one...

Donner was right in that decision, as he was fired before he could finish the second movie...

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by TWIN-FR

I don't get it, what do you mean?

Go to a Superman II listing, like this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superman-II...=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Click on the formats, the 4k is the S III listing.
And in you're on the S III 4K listing the surrounding group is all IIs, the III 4K doesn't show up on Superman III listing's formats.
Just noticed that.

Misdirection? Mistake? MultiDCuniverse of Madness?

[Show spoiler]

[grahams76]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Because it was the intended ending of the second movie...

But when things between Donner and the Salkinds went south, they decided to use the most spectacular effect for the end of the first one...

Donner was right in that decision, as he was fired before he could finish the second movie...

Sure, I know all that. But it still means we get the same ending twice.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by grahams76

Sure, I know all that. But it still means we get the same ending twice.

Just watch the ABC TV cut of Superman II.



You will NEVER get a perfect version of Superman II thanks to the Salkinds. It will always have to borrow from each director's version of the film. None of it is perfect, but that's the only way to get anything that jibes with the ending of the first film as it stands.

[david_blu]

Easiest ending that is probably stated in this thread already is as follows:

1. Defeat villains
2. Extended footage of taking the villains away
3. Breakup at Fortress and Balcony
4. Jimmy's new camera maybe?
5. Bully at Diner
6. Return flag
7. End credits

Lois knows, best ending, STM stays as it is, Superman II ends with them breaking up but keeping Lois in the know.

[Deciazulado]

Does that include the guy telling Clark to not let bullies bully him cus they'll do it again/to others, giving him the idea to go back north?