Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

Maybe digital movies will go the NFT route and than you can technically 'own it'

Don’t give them ideas

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

https://www.motionpictures.org/wp-co...EME-Report.pdf

What are you hoping to achieve by posting this shite? We already know the obvious. The drastic dip in Blu-ray sales week over week is glaringly obvious. We all know the reasons so I have no idea why you are posting this in response to another member’s correct assumption that things will be far healthier when the box office results return.

Kong V Godzilla already indicates that numbers can return close to pre-covid given a major release.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

What are you hoping to achieve by posting this shite?

One picture is worth a thousand words.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

One picture is worth a thousand words.

Why don’t you admit why you are here Lee? You are not interested in the obvious reasons behind those figures, you just want to use a freak time in history to jump on this agenda driven train of yours. The timing of your joining this forum is so obvious to me as is your sudden interest in the home media sales section. Many people have you sussed (including me) but you continue with your drivel.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

One picture is worth a thousand words.

That might be true if you actually discussed something you paid for.

[Steedeel]

Hello everyone!

[Better in Blu]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Hello everyone!

Are you saying this in your Rod Serling voice?:

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Better in Blu

Are you saying this in your Rod Serling voice?:

Are you from the future? Was just watching The Twilight Zone tonight! The one where the married couple wake from a drunken night out and are stuck in a small town with fake trees and no people. (Season 5)

[Ender14]

Glad the site is back.

In other news, this could be interesting. Though more than likely they will just change the verbiage from "buy" to "lease".

https://www.darkhorizons.com/apple-h...rship-lawsuit/

One issue that has been floating around for years is how much does one actually own digital video content they’ve purchased. Now, Apple is reportedly facing a putative class action that could impact the way digital film and TV releases are sold.

THR reports that a U.S. federal judge has rejected a motion to dismiss a case the tech giant is facing over the way consumers can “buy” or “rent” movies, TV shows and other content in the iTunes Store.

David Andino, the lead plaintiff in this case, alleges Apple reserves the right to terminate access to what consumers have “purchased,” and in fact, has done so on numerous occasions. This is reportedly often due to licensing issues or regional rights and can be done without warning.

In his statement rejecting the motion to dismiss this week, U.S. District Court Judge John Mendez says:

“Apple contends that ‘[n]o reasonable consumer would believe’ that purchased content would remain on the iTunes platform indefinitely. But in common usage, the term ‘buy’ means to acquire possession over something. It seems plausible, at least at the motion to dismiss stage, that reasonable consumers would expect their access couldn’t be revoked.”

The lawsuit reportedly leaves open the possibility of injunctive relief that could force Apple to change the way it sells content – either usage of the term ‘buy’ or ‘rent’, or adding clauses to their Terms & Conditions informing consumers they’re not really buying what they’re ‘buying’. Amazon is also reportedly facing a similar lawsuit over Prime Video purchases.

[Better in Blu]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Are you from the future? Was just watching The Twilight Zone tonight! The one where the married couple wake from a drunken night out and are stuck in a small town with fake trees and no people. (Season 5)

Lol, no Michael J. Fox here. Loved the Twilight Zone. I'll have to check out that episode again..

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Ender14

Glad the site is back.

In other news, this could be interesting. Though more than likely they will.just change the verbiage from "buy" to "lease".

https://www.darkhorizons.com/apple-h...rship-lawsuit/

They may just call it a day and go the subscription route.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

They may just call it a day and go the subscription route.

They can't this is not Apple TV + with its content, this is the iTunes VoD store with the buy/rent is the same for numerous other VoD providers.

There is no provision for continued access to content you have bought if a legal action to retract it takes place, except to provide you a refund or credit. The lawsuit is kinda meritless.

David Andino, the lead plaintiff in this case, alleges Apple reserves the right to terminate access to what consumers have “purchased,” and in fact, has done so on numerous occasions. This is reportedly often due to licensing issues or regional rights and can be done without warning.

In his statement rejecting the motion to dismiss this week, U.S. District Court Judge John Mendez says:

“Apple contends that ‘[n]o reasonable consumer would believe’ that purchased content would remain on the iTunes platform indefinitely. But in common usage, the term ‘buy’ means to acquire possession over something. It seems plausible, at least at the motion to dismiss stage, that reasonable consumers would expect their access couldn’t be revoked.”

The lawsuit reportedly leaves open the possibility of injunctive relief that could force Apple to change the way it sells content – either usage of the term ‘buy’ or ‘rent’, or adding clauses to their Terms & Conditions informing consumers they’re not really buying what they’re ‘buying’. Amazon is also reportedly facing a similar lawsuit over Prime Video purchases.

The judge may be correct that equivalent terminology of Buy/Sell is inaccurate and needs to be clarified. The plaintiff is not going to be able to get any money as the industry as a whole operates in the same manner.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

The judge may be correct that equivalent terminology of Buy/Sell is inaccurate and needs to be clarified. The plaintiff is not going to be able to get any money as the industry as a whole operates in the same manner.

I thought Blu-ray.com was gone, I don't think the Average Person had a clue. The only people that cared are on this Site. The Providers have to fix this if they want to Sell Movies and TV Shows. With Discs on the way out the Studios need to correct the Buy/Sell. I still say that this Content is on a Server and can be put anywhere....Your ISP or Local Server!

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Why don’t you admit why you are here Lee? You are not interested in the obvious reasons behind those figures, you just want to use a freak time in history to jump on this agenda driven train of yours. The timing of your joining this forum is so obvious to me as is your sudden interest in the home media sales section. Many people have you sussed (including me) but you continue with your drivel.

The poster said things "would be back to normal."

The picture I posted . . . That's normal!

Steedeel - you can bit*h, complain, rant and rave all you want. At least I follow what the Mods says are the rules. You on the other hand make it personal - that's against the rules.

[cheez avenger]

Hello everyone! Glad to be back amongst you all.

I will be getting that new Apple TV 4K, with the new chipset.

[Better in Blu]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Hello everyone! Glad to be back amongst you all.

I will be getting that new Apple TV 4K, with the new chipset.

Yeah. I will be ordering one as well

[flyry]

I was having withdrawals. I bought over 20 digital movies. and quite a few criterions during our downtime.

[JohnAV]

This is a fairly unique forum with a large amount of observations and opinions. Given the insight this site bring to all the regulars/visitors (not just this thread) its was really missed when it was offline. Thanks to the all admins and mods who rebuilt it and have it running again.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

This is a fairly unique forum with a large amount of observations and opinions. Given the insight this site bring to all the regulars/visitors (not just this thread) its was really missed when it was offline. Thanks to the all admins and mods who rebuilt it and have it running again.

You mean you don't all have physical back-ups of Blu-ray.com to peruse while the site was offline?

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

You mean you don't all have physical back-ups of Blu-ray.com to peruse while the site was offline?

Well they did have a series of mirrors, but not for use as alternate for the site failing.