I would be very surprised if Pelini was interested. The only reason I could imagine wanting to leave Nebraska would be non-football reasons, namely wanting to live in a big city with warm weather, and I don't see that being likely as is from the Midwest and has no ties to Florida. Nebraska has one of the most passionate fan bases in sports, selling out every home game since 1962, whereas Miami has a very fair-weather fan base that rarely sells out. I would also be surprised if he left Nebraska right before they enter the Big 10 and think this story will go away quickly, although maybe Pelini will get a raise thanks to the speculation.
Tell me about it. It's hard to believe a school with 5 national titles in the past 3 decades can't maintain a consistent fan base. I believe back when Tebow was being recruited he said something to the effect of "why would I want to play in a half empty stadium" in reference to Miami.
It's hard to believe a school with 5 national titles in the past 3 decades can't maintain a consistent fan base.
It's not hard to believe when you consider that Miami is a small private school with a enrollment of about 15,000. Compare that to the University of Florida, with about 50,000. If you crank out a huge number of loyal alumni over a few decades, sellouts are easy.
It's not hard to believe when you consider that Miami is a small private school with a enrollment of about 15,000. Compare that to the University of Florida, with about 50,000. If you crank out a huge number of loyal alumni over a few decades, sellouts are easy.
It's not about the titles. It's about volume.
Notre Dame only has around 12,000 total students and they don't struggle to sell out every game (since 1973) no matter how good or bad the team is.
It's not hard to believe when you consider that Miami is a small private school with a enrollment of about 15,000. Compare that to the University of Florida, with about 50,000. If you crank out a huge number of loyal alumni over a few decades, sellouts are easy.
It's not about the titles. It's about volume.
What Fete said. Enrollment is badly overstated when talking about NCAA football attendance. Notre Dame could sell out every game while going 3-9.
Also, attendance isn't entirely student based. Do you have any idea how many beaten up pickup trucks I see around Central Florida covered in Gator stickers/plates? Most of those people never spent a day of their life in college yet they are still diehard fans of the school. In the southeast college football in ingrained into communities, even among those who never went to the school. Miami just seems to be an odd case where they have consistently been a national power yet continually have attendance issues.
According to ESPN Insider, Bo Pelini has in fact interviewed for the Miami coaching position. That would be a huge hire if we could pull that off. We don't necessarily need a big name, we just need the right guy in there. If we lose one recruiting class for decades of success, I'll take that.
According to ESPN Insider, Bo Pelini has in fact interviewed for the Miami coaching position. That would be a huge hire if we could pull that off. We don't necessarily need a big name, we just need the right guy in there. If we lose one recruiting class for decades of success, I'll take that.
I'm very surprised he's even considering it. I really felt like he considered Nebraska his dream job. Pellini would be a huge pickup for Miami.
I'm very surprised he's even considering it. I really felt like he considered Nebraska his dream job. Pellini would be a huge pickup for Miami.
He's probably just using it as a ploy to get more money at Nebraska, but Miami is a very good job in a recruiting hotbed. There's also a ton of talent to win right away, Randy Shannon did an excellent job recruiting.
He's probably just using it as a ploy to get more money at Nebraska, but Miami is a very good job in a recruiting hotbed. There's also a ton of talent to win right away, Randy Shannon did an excellent job recruiting.
Shannon kinda reminded me of Ron Zook. Zook stockpiled a ton of talent through great recruiting at UF and couldn't do squat with it, resulting in a mediocre 23-14 record as Gators coach. Urban Meyer swooped in with a ton of Zook recruits and won a national title in 2006. Same deal with that guy at Illinois, almost always a highly touted class of recruits yet the team is 27-45 under him. Thankfully for the Canes it does appear they will land a proven coach this time around.
Shannon kinda reminded me of Ron Zook. Zook stockpiled a ton of talent through great recruiting at UF and couldn't do squat with it, resulting in a mediocre 23-14 record as Gators coach. Urban Meyer swooped in with a ton of Zook recruits and won a national title in 2006. Same deal with that guy at Illinois, almost always a highly touted class of recruits yet the team is 27-45 under him. Thankfully for the Canes it does appear they will land a proven coach this time around.
Examples like Ron Zook and Randy Shannon show how important a quality head coach is to winning in football. You can have all the talent in the world, and still lose a lot of football games.
What Fete said. Enrollment is badly overstated when talking about NCAA football attendance. Notre Dame could sell out every game while going 3-9.
No, enrollment creates the alumni base, whose importance can never be overstated. And it's entirely on point in Miami's case, which is what I was replying to.
Besides, Notre Dame is an exception; they have Jesus on their side!
No, enrollment creates the alumni base, whose importance can never be overstated. And it's entirely on point in Miami's case, which is what I was replying to.
Besides, Notre Dame is an exception; they have Jesus on their side!
Funny, he wasn't much help to Notre Dame when they played the Canes in the 80's-90's.
According to ESPN Insider, Bo Pelini has in fact interviewed for the Miami coaching position. That would be a huge hire if we could pull that off. We don't necessarily need a big name, we just need the right guy in there. If we lose one recruiting class for decades of success, I'll take that.
I didn't think Pelini would actually consider Miami but as I'm reading things I'm starting to reconsider. First, Miami AD Kirby Hocutt and Pelini worked together in the past at Oklahoma and have a good relationship. Second, maybe Pelini is truly upset enough with Nebraska's chancellor for publicly reprimanding him after cameras showed him yelling at his quarterback and the refs after the Texas A&M game that he'd just say to hell with this school, I'll go somewhere that would accept that I'm a passionate coach. I think in the end Pelini will stay at Nebraska but at this point I wouldn't be shocked if he left. I no longer this this is just an attempt for more money from Pelini.
I didn't think Pelini would actually consider Miami but as I'm reading things I'm starting to reconsider. First, Miami AD Kirby Hocutt and Pelini worked together in the past at Oklahoma and have a good relationship. Second, maybe Pelini is truly upset enough with Nebraska's chancellor for publicly reprimanding him after cameras showed him yelling at his quarterback and the refs after the Texas A&M game that he'd just say to hell with this school, I'll go somewhere that would accept that I'm a passionate coach. I think in the end Pelini will stay at Nebraska but at this point I wouldn't be shocked if he left. I no longer this this is just an attempt for more money from Pelini.
From what I'm hearing, the job is basically Pelini's if he wants it. The other two candidates Hocutt is high on are Edsall and Tuberville. I would be very happy with any of the three, they are all proven winners. But I would much rather have Pelini or Edsall, even though Tuberville is a good coach I wonder if his best years are behind him.
Given who's making the offer, this report from the Tennessean might say more about the upward spiral of college coaching salaries (particularly in the SEC ) than Nick Saban's contract at Alabama ever could. Why? Because it claims that Vanderbilt -- Vanderbilt! -- has just offered to pay Auburn's offensive coordinator some several hundred thousand dollars more per year in salary than his own league title-winning head coach earns :
Say this much for Vandy: now that we know that the SEC's most downtrodden football program has the capacity to come up with this kind of scratch (though we're still not sure how ), it makes a lot more sense why they parted ways with Robbie Caldwell after only one season. When you can make this kind of play for a property as hot as Malzahn, there's no reason to hold on to a well-meaning-but-limited coach like Caldwell.
As for whether Malzahn will accept, both the report above and the one preceding it at the Tennesseean make clear that despite the chance to double and possibly triple his maximum salary at Auburn, he hasn't accepted just yet. (Maryland offensive coordinator James Franklin has apparently moved up to second in the Commodore pecking order and would get the call if Malzahn declines.) He could be willing to wait out the falling dominoes at Florida and then possibly Mississippi State or Arkansas; they might not pay him as much as the Vandy offer and would be almost as difficult a job, traditionally speaking, but the latter would give him a chance to coach in his home state for a fanbase that is already wildly fond of him. That might be worth waiting on, though when we're talking about a ballpark $3 million bird in the hand, it also might not be.
In any case, it looks like Auburn will have to have those dominoes fall exactly right -- Malzahn waits on MSU/Arkansas, Vandy moves on to Franklin, Mullen goes to Florida, State can't make a strong enough offer or goes in a different direction -- to retain Malzahn's services for another year. The far more likely result at this stage is that he's gone, and that the bigger question for the Tigers now is simply keeping Malzahn as focused on the BCS National Championship Game as they can amidst the coaching storm.
If those sources are legit, this is insane. First off, props to Vanderbilt for trying to get out of the SEC basement. Secondly, why would you pay a guy who is unproven as a college head coach almost as much as Miami was willing to pay Super Bowl winner Jon Gruden?
If those sources are legit, this is insane. First off, props to Vanderbilt for trying to get out of the SEC basement. Secondly, why would you pay a guy who is unproven as a college head coach almost as much as Miami was willing to pay Super Bowl winner Jon Gruden?
Yeah, I have trouble believing this report. I don't understand offering someone who was a high school coach five years ago top ten money. Also, if you're paying your coach $3 million then it's going to cost another $1.5-$2 million per year for assistants, and I can't see Vandy spending that much total. I really have trouble believing they couldn't get Malzahn for $2 million. If the Story is true Malzahn should jump at that offer.
If those sources are legit, this is insane. First off, props to Vanderbilt for trying to get out of the SEC basement. Secondly, why would you pay a guy who is unproven as a college head coach almost as much as Miami was willing to pay Super Bowl winner Jon Gruden?
Even SEC schools with a terrible record historically in football have a massive donor base. Vanderbilt is especially respected academically and probably has a good base of rich alumni to help pay for a good coach.
But still, this is Vandy we're talking about. They ALWAYS stink at football and most sports in general. That school is unlikely to ever field a competitive football team. Heck, they even lost something ridiculous like 2/3rds of their games when Jay Cutler was their starter.
Even SEC schools with a terrible record historically in football have a massive donor base. Vanderbilt is especially respected academically and probably has a good base of rich alumni to help pay for a good coach.
But still, this is Vandy we're talking about. They ALWAYS stink at football and most sports in general. That school is unlikely to ever field a competitive football team. Heck, they even lost something ridiculous like 2/3rds of their games when Jay Cutler was their starter.
Probably why Jay Cutler slid as far as he did in the 1st round yes and why Vanderbilt players in general are viewed in a poor light per draft experts, right?
Hawaii is leaving the WAC and has accepted a football-only membership in the Mountain West Conference for the 2012-13 season, according to the MWC.
The Warriors will play the rest of their sports in the Big West conference. The Warriors women's teams used to compete in the Big West, which is currently an all-California league.
UC Irvine chancellor Michael Drake, chair of the Big West board of directors, said in a statement, "We are excited and pleased with the addition of Hawaii to the Big West Conference. In assessing Hawaii, the Board carefully considered and was impressed by both its legacy of athletic success and its commitment to academic excellence."
Hawaii's move coincides with TCU's departure for the Big East on July 1, 2012. Nevada and Fresno State will also join Hawaii on July 1, 2012 to give the Mountain West 10 football playing members and nine overall sport participants.
"The Mountain West Conference is very pleased to gain the University of Hawaii as a football-only member beginning with the 2012 season," said MWC Commissioner Craig Thompson Friday.
"Hawaii's outstanding football program and television value fit perfectly with the MWC's strategic initiatives for the future direction of the conference. We look forward to adding the Warriors to the MWC family."
The Warriors departure is another crushing blow to the WAC. The WAC is left with existing members Louisiana Tech, New Mexico State, San Jose State, Idaho and Utah State. New members Texas State, Texas-San Antonio and Denver, which doesn't play football, join in 2012. The WAC is losing Boise State to the MWC in June.
Montana decided against joining the WAC to stay in the Big Sky Conference, which plays football at the FCS level. Seattle was next on the WAC's list as a non-football playing member, but losing Hawaii makes the need for another football-playing member key. Utah State initially turned down MWC membership when it assumed BYU would be joining the WAC and Fresno State and Nevada would be staying. But when Fresno State and Nevada decided to leave for the MWC, BYU was left with little choice but to go independent and join the West Coast Conference in all other sports starting on July 1, 2011.
The MWC, meanwhile, will look a lot like the WAC used to in football by 2012-13, with Boise State, Fresno State, Nevada, Hawaii, Colorado State, San Diego State, UNLV, New Mexico, Wyoming and Air Force.
The MWC is losing Utah to the Pac-12 next season and TCU to the Big East in 2012. Both of those schools have played in BCS bowl games. They are replaced by Boise State and Hawaii, which have also had BCS bowl bids.
Hawaii is a natural fit in the Big West with most of its non-revenue sport recruitment coming from the West Coast. Hawaii's women's programs were in the Big West from 1984-96 before joining its men's programs in the WAC. The Big West membership includes Cal Poly, UC Davis, Cal State Fullerton, Long Beach State, Cal State Northridge, UC Irvine, UC Riverside, UC Santa Barbara and Pacific, the only private school in the league.
Nice pickup by the Mountain West. Can we just disband the WAC now? They are more irrelevant than the Sun Belt.
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