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Old 05-01-2021, 06:38 PM   #31241
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I said screw it and ordered the 4K disc of Prospect (standard edition) and Summer Camp Girls from Vinegar Syndrome. I know since Prospect is a pre-order both orders will ship at the same time, so in about a month or so. I can wait.
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You are not allowed to watch Shadow And Bone; it's not on disc!

How many of us watched Game Of Thrones on cable TV long before we ever had the opportunity to buy it on disc? How were we able to put up with the lower quality, the lack of ownership, the risk of censorship, and the perils of service outages?

I own a fair number of TV shows on disc, but I really have to wonder how often I will be revisiting 15 seasons of Supernatural, 20 seasons and counting of The Simpsons, 23 seasons and counting of South Park, and on and on. There's only so much free time available even to a retiree like me and there's a never ending parade of new stuff to watch, too.
If I like something and it comes out on disk I usually get it after it eventually arrives on media. But so much is not released as far as TV series in the states. But I hate waiting for media to arrive months after it been seen by everyone and want to decide if its good enough to want. The example of the Golden Compass vs His Dark Materials is examples of both I have bought. But the TV series is way better compared to the novels they are based on.

So Steedeel can wait, while I don't, and yet I still buy it, but then I have judged it before purchased. Thats a lot better IMHO.
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If I like something and it comes out on disk I usually get it after it eventually arrives on media. But so much is not released as far as TV series in the states. But I hate waiting for media to arrive months after it been seen by everyone and want to decide if its good enough to want. The example of the Golden Compass vs His Dark Materials is examples of both I have bought. But the TV series is way better compared to the novels they are based on.

So Steedeel can wait, while I don't, and yet I still buy it, but then I have judged it before purchased. Thats a lot better IMHO.
I wasn't aware of His Dark Materials; I will have to consider getting it.
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I said screw it and ordered the 4K disc of Prospect (standard edition) and Summer Camp Girls from Vinegar Syndrome. I know since Prospect is a pre-order both orders will ship at the same time, so in about a month or so. I can wait.
How are you liking your new subwoofies with all of these movies that you have been buying?

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Episodic series are often only available on pay TV or SVOD and people are not going to forego watching them waiting for a disc release that may or may not ever come.
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There's only so much free time available even to a retiree like me and there's a never ending parade of new stuff to watch, too.
With so little time and so much content why would I ever need to seek out shows that aren't on disc?

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Old 05-01-2021, 07:20 PM   #31246
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I do.

With so little time and so much content why would I ever need to seek out shows that aren't on disc?
It's fine that you prefer to wait for a disc release or to do without entirely. The difference, though, is that you are not hyper critical of those that make a different choice. In the case of the person that I was replying to, he watches content on pay TV without any reservations and that is no different than watching content on SVOD. All of the "no ownership/ lower quality/ risk of censorship/ service outages" arguments apply to both distribution methods.

By that "logic" of "content quantity", I could have stopped buying or renting content years ago as I already had a sizable library even back then, but doing that would be plain silly. If a show or a movie appears that really catches my interest, I will see it however it can be seen; I'm not getting any younger here. I am not going to deny myself a great movie or TV show because I can't have it exactly the way I want it. I will watch it however I can and if at some point I can buy it on disc, I will, assuming that my expectations were met or exceeded upon my first viewing.

I finally got to see Greyhound, which is shown exclusively on the Appleverse. I am a fan of both Tom Hanks and WWII movies, so I very much wanted to see this movie. I saw it and I liked it. When it gets a disc release, I will buy it and if it never gets a disc release I am still glad that I at least got to see it.

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Old 05-01-2021, 08:24 PM   #31247
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I wasn't aware of His Dark Materials; I will have to consider getting it.
Its has first season released, and second season shortly. Jun 29, 2021 (2 Months)



The first season is similar to golden compass in story, but a lot longer. The second season is what you have never experienced. Its is a trilogy.

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Old 05-01-2021, 11:24 PM   #31248
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It's fine that you prefer to wait for a disc release or to do without entirely. The difference, though, is that you are not hyper critical of those that make a different choice. In the case of the person that I was replying to, he watches content on pay TV without any reservations and that is no different than watching content on SVOD. All of the "no ownership/ lower quality/ risk of censorship/ service outages" arguments apply to both distribution methods.

By that "logic" of "content quantity", I could have stopped buying or renting content years ago as I already had a sizable library even back then, but doing that would be plain silly. If a show or a movie appears that really catches my interest, I will see it however it can be seen; I'm not getting any younger here. I am not going to deny myself a great movie or TV show because I can't have it exactly the way I want it. I will watch it however I can and if at some point I can buy it on disc, I will, assuming that my expectations were met or exceeded upon my first viewing.

I finally got to see Greyhound, which is shown exclusively on the Appleverse. I am a fan of both Tom Hanks and WWII movies, so I very much wanted to see this movie. I saw it and I liked it. When it gets a disc release, I will buy it and if it never gets a disc release I am still glad that I at least got to see it.
The distinction being I’m a film collector, not a tv series collector (although I have a handful of essential shows such as Twin Peaks).
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You know? Provide a link please.
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The distinction being I’m a film collector, not a tv series collector (although I have a handful of essential shows such as Twin Peaks).
Considering the quality of recent TV series via streaming), Twin Peaks is laughable quality. The only good thing really was the music which is haunting and the scenery locations in the fictional NW USA. Yes I seen the whole spiel. Heck Buffy the Vampire series was a lot more entertaining. Especially the Hush episode.

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Considering the quality of recent TV series via streaming), Twin Peaks is laughable quality. The only good thing really was the music which is haunting and the scenery locations in the fictional NW USA. Yes I seen the whole spiel. Heck Buffy the Vampire series was a lot more entertaining. Especially the Hush episode.

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Did you just compare a groundbreaking masterpiece to Buffy?
Did you just imply that Buffy isn't a groundbreaking masterpiece?
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Did you just compare a groundbreaking masterpiece to Buffy?
Twin Peaks vs Buffy

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Twin Peaks was a fusion of two traditional television genres, the male oriented cop drama and the soap opera. The show fully embraces genre conventions of each. The main character, Dale Cooper, is an FBI agent, who, over the course of the series works with a local sheriff’s department to solve the murder of Laura Palmer. While the serialization of the investigation is unusual, the setup is classic television. Sheriff Truman and the rustic Twin Peaks police department bring to mind The Andy Griffith Show. Cooper’s adventures in investigating the murder would be at home on traditional cop shows. He questions all the people who knew Laura, finding out new information from each person. He goes undercover in the first season finale, and during a stakeout succeeds in capturing a prime suspect in the murder. The investigative techniques used by the characters are typical of television cop series, but the serialization of the investigation makes it unique.

However, the show has another dimension that is pure soap opera. The series’ focus on many different characters within a single town recalls day time soap operas like Days of Our Lives. The writers are unapologetic about their adoption of soap opera conventions, as shown by the show within a show, Invitation to Love. The introduction of Laura’s identical cousin, Maddie, is both a stereotypical soap opera plot, and recalls an early female-oriented program, The Pattie Duke Show. Also, the show’s intensely serial nature is directly descended from soap opera. Every episode is continuous, and plot threads routinely stretch on for ten or twelve episodes. So, the series uses a soap opera structure as the backdrop for a serious police investigation, with the characters’ personal lives and conflicts viewed through the lens of a cop show. In this way, the creators are able to have a show with the gravity of a cop drama, but the continuing emotional development of a soap opera.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer also fuses two traditional genres together. On one level, it’s an action show, about a girl fighting vampires, but on another level it’s a relationship drama, that frequently strays into soap opera. What Buffy does is use the action conflicts to physically represent the emotional conflict of the characters. This is first done successfully in the second season when, after sleeping with Buffy, Angel loses his soul and becomes Angelus. In the following episode, “Innocence,” Buffy and Angel fight, and through their fighting, Buffy attempts to work out her emotional issues with regards to the new Angel. So, while the fight is a necessary element of an action show, it also serves a soap opera element, a physical representation of the characters’ emotional problems.

Another scene that uses fighting as a way of working out emotional issues is Buffy and Spike’s fight in “Smashed.” For an entire season, Spike had been in love with Buffy, but she had resisted him. In “Smashed,” he finds out he can hurt her, and they fight each other, however, as they hit each other they gradually begin to kiss, and eventually have sex, the implicit message being that for Buffy and Spike, sex and violence are the same urge. The scene represents the way the show turns violence into an act of communication between people. Because Buffy is the slayer, and so many of the people she deals with are superpowered, they engage each other through physical violence rather than traditional discussion. Buffy and Spike relate purely on the level of violence, something she makes explicit when she says, “Well, I do beat him up a lot. For Spike that's like third base.” By basing Buffy and Spike’s relationship on physical conflict, the writers are able to incorporate the action elements into the soap opera plots.

Because Buffy is an action show, it has to have a fight scene in each show. But as the show goes on, the fight scene moves to the periphery, and the soap opera elements become more prominent, a trend that culminates in the sixth season. While most seasons are driven by a fight against “the big bad,” such as fallen God, Glory, the sixth season is driven purely by the personal problems of the characters. In addition to this, it is the most serialized season, a heavily soap operatic element. The main villains of the season are a trio of geeky people Buffy went to high school with, who have just as many personal problems as the heroes. All the plot developments revolve around traumas within the group. Buffy, who had been resurrected earlier in the year, has to deal with the fact that she was pulled out of heaven, and now “lives in hell” as a result. Xander and Anya deal with anxiety over their upcoming marriage, and eventually with the consequences of their breakup, a storyline reminiscent of soap opera. Willow struggles with her breakup with Tara, and her subsequent “addiction” to magic, an arc that culminates when she turns evil and attempts to destroy the world at the end of the season.
Now you want a real Buffy fan you need to look at spanky87 home theater. That’s a true fan!

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How are you liking your new subwoofies with all of these movies that you have been buying?

I got an email from REL; their subwoofwoofs are on sale thru May 31st, but I still can't make up my mind between them and SVS. Not having heard either one in action makes the decision harder, too. So much to consider...

It's grand! I'm in hog heaven. The 5.2.2 set-up enhances everything. And the way I have the dual subs on the individual stands let's me control the low-end as opposed to having them pointing down into the ground. The bass is low and tight and never distorts. I'm in love.
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Did you just imply that Buffy isn't a groundbreaking masterpiece?
Yes!
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Now you want a real Buffy fan you need to look at spanky87 home theater. That’s a true fan!
Twin peaks cannot be summarised so simply. People have pages long debates about one frame!

Peaks is the peak of tv, Buffy is a very well done teens show.
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This is still in the hidden from us phase but ....

9to5Mac can now confirm that a HiFi plan may indeed be coming to Apple Music. In the first beta build of iOS 14.6, which was released last week to developers, we found new code added to the Music app that specifically mentions “Dolby Atmos,” “Dolby Audio,” and “Lossless.” Despite supporting Apple’s own HiFi audio codec ALAC, the Music app has never offered support for Dolby Atmos or Dolby Audio.



Imagine if high quality audio came to the apple music ! I would have never thought it would happen as they seem to love compression of Audio. They could however use a very lossy version of Atmos fully missing the point but either way this is great news.
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This is still in the hidden from us phase but ....

9to5Mac can now confirm that a HiFi plan may indeed be coming to Apple Music. In the first beta build of iOS 14.6, which was released last week to developers, we found new code added to the Music app that specifically mentions “Dolby Atmos,” “Dolby Audio,” and “Lossless.” Despite supporting Apple’s own HiFi audio codec ALAC, the Music app has never offered support for Dolby Atmos or Dolby Audio.



Imagine if high quality audio came to the apple music ! I would have never thought it would happen as they seem to love compression of Audio.
I had a quick listen of a few songs on Apple Music (not my subscription before anyone starts) and it just sounded lifeless.
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I do.

With so little time and so much content why would I ever need to seek out shows that aren't on disc?
Right there with you. Maybe in 23 months when I retire, I might pursue other options, but I still have a backlog of tv shows on disc to pop in to keep me entertained until then. I am working my way through Better Call Saul and Mr Mercedes at the moment. Third season of Better Call Saul was tough to find as it is out of print, but got lucky with a new copy in a local place for $20.

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How are you liking your new subwoofies with all of these movies that you have been buying?

I got an email from REL; their subwoofwoofs are on sale thru May 31st, but I still can't make up my mind between them and SVS. Not having heard either one in action makes the decision harder, too. So much to consider...
Hearing a sub in a store will be different to what it will do in your room. Both are strong options, so I believe you will be happy with either path you take. Have you discovered any other pros and cons between the two?
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