Crystal Lake Memories: The Complete History of Friday the 13th (2013)

[tylergfoster]

Originally Posted by willh51

Apparently that wasn't funny.

[Beast]

I got a reply from Sue about how they'll handle that many Signatures:

Beast,

All signatures will be on the cover both front and back. Not on the inside.

Sue

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Beast

I got a reply from Sue about how they'll handle that many Signatures:

I would prefer them on the inside, but so be it. I wish I could be at the signing! Talk about a neat event. Glad to be getting this little keepsake.

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by Cahleb

Completely different discs. This is a documentary.

Plus that footage is old, this CLM thing will mostly new interviews and footage. I think I read they just used file footage from a few of the people that have already done a hundred interviews, like Betsy Palmer.

[Beast]

Though it would be awesome sauce if Betsy Palmer was at the signing.

[Guydowood]

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[Blu Myers]

Originally Posted by Guydowood

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Looks nice!

[ColdRiverPatriot]

Here are some pics of the DVDs from some previous mass signings at DarkDel. Pretty amazing stuff. No way anyone can justify complaining about the price. BEYOND worth it. I can't wait to get the new F13 from them!!!

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by Beast

Though it would be awesome sauce if Betsy Palmer was at the signing.

She'll only do something in NEW YORK. She is done with flying.

I too also got an email where they said they will only be signing the front and the back of the cover sleeve.

[seamus11]

Hutson Ranch Media just confirmed me that Crystal Lake Memories will be in HD!

Thanks for your interest in the documentary and for reaching out. Yes, the plan is for HD.
For more information and updates, please visit us on Facebook at:

https://www.facebook.com/crystallakememories

More information will also be available at our website when the full site launches, so keep you eye on that as well: http://www.crystallakememories.net
Thanks again.

[Cahleb]

Originally Posted by seamus11

Hutson Ranch Media just confirmed me that Crystal Lake Memories will be in HD!

Thanks for your interest in the documentary and for reaching out. Yes, the plan is for HD.
For more information and updates, please visit us on Facebook at:

https://www.facebook.com/crystallakememories

More information will also be available at our website when the full site launches, so keep you eye on that as well: http://www.crystallakememories.net
Thanks again.

that's impossible without damaging the PQ.

[rblum199]

Originally Posted by Cahleb

that's impossible without damaging the PQ.

How is that impossible? Presumably the non film clip parts will be filmed with an HD camera, and all it takes for full HD is to take the film clips from an HD source. Considering that they would need permission to use the clips in the first place, and HD sources already exist for all of the movies (after all, there is a box set coming of all the movies), they would just need to convince Paramount/Warner Bros. to give them access to the HD clips.

[Cahleb]

Originally Posted by rblum199

How is that impossible? Presumably the non film clip parts will be filmed with an HD camera, and all it takes for full HD is to take the film clips from an HD source. Considering that they would need permission to use the clips in the first place, and HD sources already exist for all of the movies (after all, there is a box set coming of all the movies), they would just need to convince Paramount/Warner Bros. to give them access to the HD clips.

because it's SEVEN HOURS. seven hours in HD on ONE disc just sounds impossible without damaging the PQ. i never said it was impossible using and filming HD material. i said it was impossible to fit 7 hours on one disc.

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by Cahleb

because it's SEVEN HOURS. seven hours in HD on ONE disc just sounds impossible without damaging the PQ. i never said it was impossible using and filming HD material. i said it was impossible to fit 7 hours on one disc.

It's not.

Moving on...

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Cahleb

because it's SEVEN HOURS. seven hours in HD on ONE disc just sounds impossible without damaging the PQ. i never said it was impossible using and filming HD material. i said it was impossible to fit 7 hours on one disc.

It's very possible, and has happened before. I can't remember the name but I believe it was almost 11 hours of the TV show Invisible Man crammed onto one disc. Sure it's heavily compressed, with just about every know PQ bug, but it fits on one disc.

[NoirFan]

...And check out the 1-star video review. So they really are contending that this will be genuine, 1080p HD? I'm predicting a lot of angry Amazon reviews.


Edit: Perhaps someone with some technical knowledge of compression can weigh in, but with that insane amount of compression, wouldn't the image actually look superior on the two dual-layer DVDs, or would it basically be identical? Why the hell aren't they putting this on two BDs? Granted, I'm still looking forward to the doc (and the autographs), but why are they needlessly sabotaging their own release like this?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Guydowood

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Very striking artwork. Great job!

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by rblum199

How is that impossible? Presumably the non film clip parts will be filmed with an HD camera, and all it takes for full HD is to take the film clips from an HD source. Considering that they would need permission to use the clips in the first place, and HD sources already exist for all of the movies (after all, there is a box set coming of all the movies), they would just need to convince Paramount/Warner Bros. to give them access to the HD clips.

It's not a question of how could the source material possibly be in HD. It's a question of how can 7 hours of HD material fit on a single 50GB blu-ray.

My only guess is that because so much of the documentary may be just people sitting against non-moving backgrounds, perhaps the video is easier to compress and therefore takes less room on a disc after compression. People who have ever encoded their own video or made their own blu-ray rips know that animation for instance compresses much better than live-action film due to all the solid background colors that are much easier to compress and takes up a much smaller file size than a busy live-action film. Compressing a 5-minute clip of a documentary of a single person sitting against a solid background image talking gives you a smaller file size than a 5-minute action clip from a summer action blockbuster at the same quality settings.


It could also be in 720p instead of 1080p. That would take far less room to store and technically 720p is still HD.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

...And check out the 1-star video review. So they really are contending that this will be genuine, 1080p HD? I'm predicting a lot of angry Amazon reviews.


Edit: Perhaps someone with some technical knowledge of compression can weigh in, but with that insane amount of compression, wouldn't the image actually look superior on the two dual-layer DVDs, or would it basically be identical? Why the hell aren't they putting this on two BDs? Granted, I'm still looking forward to the doc (and the autographs), but why are they needlessly sabotaging their own release like this?

Yeah, the compression has me wondering too. It seems that somehow the image would have to suffer with such high compression. It's not a question of if it's technically possible to do - the question is can it be done without making the video quality look like garbage?

I just bought Scarface last week and some pro reviews said the image suffers from a 3-hour film being squashed onto a singe blu-ray disc with all the extras on the same disc. So it's a valid concern. I still thought Scarface looked pretty terrific, but this is 7 hours of HD we're talking about here.

A quote from that Invisible man review you linked to above:

"what should be the best the series has ever looked for general home viewing is probably the worst it has ever looked, and that might be a first for a Blu-ray release. The entire series -- all of "The Invisible Man" -- has been placed on a single 50 GB disc. That's right, all ten hours, fifty-two minutes, and forty-eight seconds worth, thirteen total episodes that each run around forty-eight minutes apiece (and the pilot about twenty-five minutes longer). On one disc....Compression artifacts are many, of course; blocky backgrounds are commonplace, but not quite as extensive as some viewers might expect given the circumstances....Simply put, this is a train wreck of a Blu-ray transfer, a disaster of epic proportions. Stop keeping track now; "The Invisible Man" will be the runaway winner for worst Blu-ray picture quality of the year."

Now do people still think it's wise to cram 7 hours of HD on a single disc?

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

...And check out the 1-star video review. So they really are contending that this will be genuine, 1080p HD? I'm predicting a lot of angry Amazon reviews.


Edit: Perhaps someone with some technical knowledge of compression can weigh in, but with that insane amount of compression, wouldn't the image actually look superior on the two dual-layer DVDs, or would it basically be identical? Why the hell aren't they putting this on two BDs? Granted, I'm still looking forward to the doc (and the autographs), but why are they needlessly sabotaging their own release like this?

I said this when I found out about all 7 hours being crammed onto one BD, earlier in the thread. Granted you could look at LoA, which is almost 4hrs and looks amazing. While I'm quite certain this wasn't shot on 65mm, nor will it receive a 4k scan, I think it will be presentable for what it is: a documentary dealing with the F13 films. Assuming that it's upcoverted SD footage, pieced together with newer HD interviews, I'm sure it will have it's fair share of compression issues, but probably won't stick out as much like on feature film. Total speculation on my part. Probably me just preparing for the worst, but hoping for the best since I'm going to buy this autographed copy anyway.