Invasion of the Body Snatchers 4K UHD (1978) - Page 16 - Blu-ray Forum

samlop10 · 11-22-2021, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

I thought it looked really good in motion... but will want to hear what others say once they have the disc in hand and are able to see it.

Did you watch it in DV or plain HDR10?

samlop10 · 11-22-2021, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AKORIS

so the question has to be asked.... if that's the case are some of these anomalies even going to be noticed by most collector's?

And when I say collector's I mean people that buy blu rays so picture quality is important to them....

it depends. Some definitely do, others don’t.

Some are definitely critical of the PQ, others just buy Criterion blu-rays because they’re supposed to be better but don’t really have a setup or critical eye that would reveal the compression issues.

PowellPressburger · 11-22-2021, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by samlop10

Did you watch it in DV or plain HDR10?

I watched it with no HDR of any kind.

Hopefully some get this in hand today and tomorrow and can comment better than I can.

Kyle15 · 11-22-2021, 04:56 PM

We have already entered "is it really a problem if [most -insert term of person here-] don't notice?" phase of the thread. Oh boy.

DaGodfadder · 11-22-2021, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AKORIS

have any of you guys heard the term innocent until proven guilty??

There are just so many people who want to be the first to complain about something. I’m a pc gaming enthusiast and things are even worse in that ‘community’.

We gamers even have a saying for this, which is: “Nobody loves to hate his own hobby more than a PC gamer.”

Mahogany · 11-22-2021, 05:46 PM

I for one just want good picture and sound quality in my Blu ray and 4k. I can see and hear the difference. But I get your point. And as bad as for example Halloween 4k is encoded, I still enjoy the new Shout 4k and believe it is an improvement while wishing it had been encoded better.

dylrichard02 · 11-22-2021, 05:50 PM

If you want it to look good, you'd want a better encode. Encode affects image quality pretty substantially.

gigan72 · 11-22-2021, 06:08 PM

I get that people are tired of the handwringing here but idk what to say, those caps show some of the worst compression i've seen this year. About equal to the Shout Halloweens, the grain structure is crunchy and soupy looking. With DV it should look better but it's shocking how bad the compression is compared to their other discs.

It's fine if you can't see it or don't notice it, as the compression will likely only crush out the finest of details and the refinement of the grain structure, but it's there. If you want to argue that since you don't notice it doesn't matter, cool, go right ahead. But we're gonna nitpick and discuss how the disc looks from a standpoint thats more technical and less 'average consumer'. The encoding makes an actual visible difference, regardless of if it's visible to you personally or not.

dylrichard02 · 11-22-2021, 06:09 PM

I'd say worse than Halloween's encode in places.

samlop10 · 11-22-2021, 06:13 PM

I’m just glad I didn’t preorder this. It’s not only a headache to return it (assuming whatever store you bought it from even allows you to do so; i.e. some stores only allow an exchange for the same product but not a return; and some that do allow a return make you pay for the shipping to send it back) but after The Silence of the Lambs and now this one, the pattern Kino is now setting for their releases is sadly not a good one.

samlop10 · 11-22-2021, 06:16 PM

That’s a perfect consumer. One that isn’t critical of the product they buy and only wants to keep buying/consuming lol. Companies sure love that.

dylrichard02 · 11-22-2021, 06:17 PM

This arrived today. I'll go through and compare with my great MGM Blu-ray tonight after work and see how it looks. Hopefully it's not too complaint-worthy, I wouldn't want to be too inconvenient to other consumers considering I only spent $29 after sales tax.

Braktastic · 11-22-2021, 06:19 PM

I'm also getting sick and tired of every Kino 4K UHD I received coming scratched.

Kyle15 · 11-22-2021, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dylrichard02

This arrived today. I'll go through and compare with my great MGM Blu-ray tonight after work and see how it looks. Hopefully it's not too complaint-worthy, I wouldn't want to be too inconvenient to other consumers considering I only spent $29 after sales tax.

You better only have positive things to say. I have an ad-hominem and strawman locked and loaded to post and make you very very upset.

dylrichard02 · 11-22-2021, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle15

You better only have positive things to say. I have an ad-hominem and strawman locked and loaded to post and make you very very upset.

dylrichard02 · 11-22-2021, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Braktastic

I'm also getting sick and tired of every Kino 4K UHD I received coming scratched.

Mine was detached from the hub, but not scratched fortunately. Did you order directly from KL?

Braktastic · 11-22-2021, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dylrichard02

Mine was detached from the hub, but not scratched fortunately. Did you order directly from KL?

I ordered mine through Bull Moose. It has about a half an inch scratch on the 4K UHD deep enough to reflect light, which means I'm going to have to return it for a replacement.

OSHAN · 11-22-2021, 06:47 PM

I picked this up, Hard Target, and The Lover with Target's sale. I'll keep them sealed until more opinions start coming out, but it came to $21 bucks a movie, after tax, which is the cheapest I'll probably get these titles.

dylrichard02 · 11-22-2021, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Braktastic

I ordered mine through Bull Moose. It has about a half an inch scratch on the 4K UHD deep enough to reflect light, which means I'm going to have to return it for a replacement.

That sucks, I'm sorry. I'd keep the slipcover if you care about that kind of thing.

Brian81 · 11-22-2021, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Braktastic

I'm also getting sick and tired of every Kino 4K UHD I received coming scratched.

My 4K disc is fine here but the BD looks like Wolverine handled it. I guess since I ordered from Kino, I'm ****ed?

11-22-2021, 04:56 PM	#304
Kyle15 Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Alabama 4K collection:153 Blu-ray collection:395 DVD collection:8 Trading Score:5	We have already entered "is it really a problem if [most -insert term of person here-] don't notice?" phase of the thread. Oh boy.

11-22-2021, 05:46 PM	#306
Mahogany Banned Member since:Aug 2020	I for one just want good picture and sound quality in my Blu ray and 4k. I can see and hear the difference. But I get your point. And as bad as for example Halloween 4k is encoded, I still enjoy the new Shout 4k and believe it is an improvement while wishing it had been encoded better.

11-22-2021, 05:50 PM	#307
dylrichard02 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2019 Location:In the mouth of madness 4K collection:593 Blu-ray collection:2207 DVD collection:271 MA collection:9 Digital collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:1	If you want it to look good, you'd want a better encode. Encode affects image quality pretty substantially.

11-22-2021, 06:08 PM	#308
gigan72 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2015 4K collection:569 Blu-ray collection:1011 DVD collection:75 Trading Score:4	I get that people are tired of the handwringing here but idk what to say, those caps show some of the worst compression i've seen this year. About equal to the Shout Halloweens, the grain structure is crunchy and soupy looking. With DV it should look better but it's shocking how bad the compression is compared to their other discs. It's fine if you can't see it or don't notice it, as the compression will likely only crush out the finest of details and the refinement of the grain structure, but it's there. If you want to argue that since you don't notice it doesn't matter, cool, go right ahead. But we're gonna nitpick and discuss how the disc looks from a standpoint thats more technical and less 'average consumer'. The encoding makes an actual visible difference, regardless of if it's visible to you personally or not.

11-22-2021, 06:09 PM	#309
dylrichard02 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2019 Location:In the mouth of madness 4K collection:593 Blu-ray collection:2207 DVD collection:271 MA collection:9 Digital collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:1	I'd say worse than Halloween's encode in places.

11-22-2021, 06:13 PM	#310
samlop10 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Austin TX Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:1041 Blu-ray collection:3901 DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews: 59 Trading Score:1	I’m just glad I didn’t preorder this. It’s not only a headache to return it (assuming whatever store you bought it from even allows you to do so; i.e. some stores only allow an exchange for the same product but not a return; and some that do allow a return make you pay for the shipping to send it back) but after The Silence of the Lambs and now this one, the pattern Kino is now setting for their releases is sadly not a good one.

11-22-2021, 06:16 PM	#311
samlop10 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Austin TX Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:1041 Blu-ray collection:3901 DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews: 59 Trading Score:1	That’s a perfect consumer. One that isn’t critical of the product they buy and only wants to keep buying/consuming lol. Companies sure love that.

11-22-2021, 06:17 PM	#312
dylrichard02 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2019 Location:In the mouth of madness 4K collection:593 Blu-ray collection:2207 DVD collection:271 MA collection:9 Digital collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:1	This arrived today. I'll go through and compare with my great MGM Blu-ray tonight after work and see how it looks. Hopefully it's not too complaint-worthy, I wouldn't want to be too inconvenient to other consumers considering I only spent $29 after sales tax.

11-22-2021, 06:19 PM	#313
Braktastic Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2007 4K collection:595 Blu-ray collection:595 Trading Score:13	I'm also getting sick and tired of every Kino 4K UHD I received coming scratched.

11-22-2021, 06:47 PM	#318
OSHAN Senior Member Member since:Apr 2020 Location:Canada Trading Score:5	I picked this up, Hard Target, and The Lover with Target's sale. I'll keep them sealed until more opinions start coming out, but it came to $21 bucks a movie, after tax, which is the cheapest I'll probably get these titles.

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