The Official Energy Speakers Thread

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by slimmer

This would explain the price drop on a few Energy speakers at Future Shop. Specifically the CF-50s

No not really as FS is a big box they like to make you think you get a speacial but the CF it Energy's latest speaker as they replaced what Steve and I have as our speakers.

They are just regular special but the price drops one week and back at regular price next week.

They came out end of 2008.

[Lij]

The new Veritas line looks suspiciously similar to the old RC line both cosmetically and somewhat in name. All brought to you at a higher price. See:

http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en/products/veritas/

RC-Mini-CC // V-Mini-C ??
ESW-V10 // V-SW10 ??

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Lij

The new Veritas line looks suspiciously similar to the old RC line both cosmetically and somewhat in name. All brought to you at a higher price. See:

http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en/products/veritas/

RC-Mini-CC // V-Mini-C ??
ESW-V10 // V-SW10 ??

Yup I agree but you should not get fooled by the look alone the X-over, the interior of the babinet can play a huge role in sound, I agree it looks alot like an new and improved RC line this is for sure.

Energy stated they had abandone the Veritas line because of really high cost for the consumer, let's not forget they are being mass produce, they might come up with an RC-line that is more cost effective as well.


I the sub certainly does not have much improvement over the previous Veritas Sub it looks Exactly the same and has Excatly the same specs but again could use different damping material, I mean look at the Entire Dali lineup, they all look the same except for the ribbon teeter on some models.


I sure will be able to listen to them very soon.

[Lij]

I'm sure the new Veritas will be every bit as good and more likely a somewhat better speaker line than the RCs that they replace (some of the specs are marginally better). But the new Veritas are surely directly lineal from the RCs. Energy (or likely the Klipsch Group) is apparently using its name Veritas for the new line in an attempt to elevate a development in the RC speaker line to levels that it appears does not in truth belong. Who knows, if in a few years in the future if I can get these speakers (in Rosenut) at the deep discount at which I purchased my RCs (about 40% of MSRP & free shipping) I might be thinking of upgrading. But then it took 34 years for me to upgrade from my old 5-way Pioneer CS-99As.

[callas01]

in looking at the specs, they are definetly a step up from the RCs, as I was told when I talked with Energy Reps, Klipsch's only involvement is that Energy and Mirage and Jamo account for the $$ they spend in R&D, Otherwise they have full control. The only other thing Klipsch asks is that the speakers are built in China to keep the cost of MFG lower.

Yes they took some things from the RC line, but I would reason that that is because the main Engineer right now who took over for John T. Originally built the RCs, so he probably has a liking for the Kevlar material.

Look at B&W, they use Kevlar on all their speakers also, and they all look the same, does that mean the 800 series isn't better then the CM or the CM better then the 600?

Also the new Veritas has the neodymium motor with heat sink, that no recent speaker has had, so this is a new addition and I bet adds more to the upper mid-range smoothness and detail and transperency.

I would almost expect an RC speaker that fills the $1500 gap and a $600+ center channel. Similar to what PSB does with their Imagine line.... BUT WHO KNOWS.... maybe this is it for the next 5 yrs.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

in looking at the specs, they are definetly a step up from the RCs, as I was told when I talked with Energy Reps, Klipsch's only involvement is that Energy and Mirage and Jamo account for the $$ they spend in R&D, Otherwise they have full control. The only other thing Klipsch asks is that the speakers are built in China to keep the cost of MFG lower.

Yes they took some things from the RC line, but I would reason that that is because the main Engineer right now who took over for John T. Originally built the RCs, so he probably has a liking for the Kevlar material.

Look at B&W, they use Kevlar on all their speakers also, and they all look the same, does that mean the 800 series isn't better then the CM or the CM better then the 600?

Also the new Veritas has the neodymium motor with heat sink, that no recent speaker has had, so this is a new addition and I bet adds more to the upper mid-range smoothness and detail and transperency.

I would almost expect an RC speaker that fills the $1500 gap and a $600+ center channel. Similar to what PSB does with their Imagine line.... BUT WHO KNOWS.... maybe this is it for the next 5 yrs.

YUP Veneer finish is better too lol but seriously it is and grill are better integrated, Frequency response goes higher, X-over are not the same, alot of things are reworked and really I think they will sound close to something really great.

I can't wait to compare to my Rainmakers lol.

Maybe the Veritas 6.2 for my next 2 channel rig

[Monkey]

I like the look of my RC-10's and RC-30's more actually but would love to compare how they sound.

Nice to see a gloss black finish.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Monkey

I like the look of my RC-10's and RC-30's more actually but would love to compare how they sound.

Nice to see a gloss black finish.

I would say this looks more like Satin finish the Gloss Black is on the Sub alone.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

I would say this looks more like Satin finish the Gloss Black is on the Sub alone.

I was actually just going off the site which says "High gloss piano black or piano rosenut finish". I only did a quick look.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Monkey

I was actually just going off the site which says "High gloss piano black or piano rosenut finish". I only did a quick look.

I did not see it sorry I guess I'll have to go in store soon and find out if they are High gloss black that would mean a similar finish to what the Veritas had before.

[K-Fed2]

Hi Everyone, I wish to join the ranks of Energy speaker owners. I have had my speakers for a few years already but did not know of this site let alone this thread until recently. Very enjoyable and loaded with awesome info.

Here's how I became a "proud" energy owner. As an employee of Future Shop at the time, I was able to take advantage of a great staff only promotion from energy which ran in the summer of '07. I was able to get my dream RC package at extraordinary pricing of 75% off of retail cost. How could I say no to that? Here's what I got: a pair of RC-30s, RC-LCR center, 2 RC-R surrounds and a S10.3 sub. I think I paid just under a grand for it all tax in.

Its been over 3 yrs and my speakers STILL continue to impress me. As an avid audiophile from way back to the late 70's in my high school days and having had several speaker systems over the years (Sansui, JBL to name a few), Energy speakers produce the most natural reproduction of vocals that I have ever heard.

Looking forward to talking speakers with all of you guys.

Cheers!

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by K-Fed2

Hi Everyone, I wish to join the ranks of Energy speaker owners. I have had my speakers for a few years already but did not know of this site let alone this thread until recently. Very enjoyable and loaded with awesome info.

Here's how I became a "proud" energy owner. As an employee of Future Shop at the time, I was able to take advantage of a great staff only promotion from energy which ran in the summer of '07. I was able to get my dream RC package at extraordinary pricing of 75% off of retail cost. How could I say no to that? Here's what I got: a pair of RC-30s, RC-LCR center, 2 RC-R surrounds and a S10.3 sub. I think I paid just under a grand for it all tax in.

Its been over 3 yrs and my speakers STILL continue to impress me. As an avid audiophile from way back to the late 70's in my high school days and having had several speaker systems over the years (Sansui, JBL to name a few), Energy speakers produce the most natural reproduction of vocals that I have ever heard.

Looking forward to talking speakers with all of you guys.

Cheers!

First of Congratulations for your first post here and welcome in the community

Have you Heard Totem and Dynaudio Speakers? I not saying you would change your mind about Energy cause their RC line is awesome and I own a Conoisseur setup myself I am steping it notch and I have ordered just recently a pair of Totem Rainmaker, I have been talking about that for quite a while now and Totem is made in Canada.

You will realise that Callas and I have the same taste and we love just about the same speaker and I don't think it's a coincidence.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by K-Fed2

Hi Everyone, I wish to join the ranks of Energy speaker owners. I have had my speakers for a few years already but did not know of this site let alone this thread until recently. Very enjoyable and loaded with awesome info.

Here's how I became a "proud" energy owner. As an employee of Future Shop at the time, I was able to take advantage of a great staff only promotion from energy which ran in the summer of '07. I was able to get my dream RC package at extraordinary pricing of 75% off of retail cost. How could I say no to that? Here's what I got: a pair of RC-30s, RC-LCR center, 2 RC-R surrounds and a S10.3 sub. I think I paid just under a grand for it all tax in.

Its been over 3 yrs and my speakers STILL continue to impress me. As an avid audiophile from way back to the late 70's in my high school days and having had several speaker systems over the years (Sansui, JBL to name a few), Energy speakers produce the most natural reproduction of vocals that I have ever heard.

Looking forward to talking speakers with all of you guys.

Cheers!

welcome to the site.

I really enjoy my Energys, They have served me great for the past 3 yrs. Glad you are happy with them. The RCs are nice speakers from what everyone tells me.

I like Oliver am looking at upgrading out of the Energy tho. I believe that I will be buying Dynaudio Excite X16s and a X22, I will be pairing them with a Marantz receiver and will add a Naim 5i Integrated Amp sometime down the road for 2-channel music. To which I want to add a Rega or Pro-ject TT and an NAD CD player. I think the CD player will happen first, and then the TT and IA later.

I do have to say that looking at the Veritas line makes me really want to hear them, just in case they sound better then the Dyns..... but I think that would be very hard.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

welcome to the site.

I really enjoy my Energys, They have served me great for the past 3 yrs. Glad you are happy with them. The RCs are nice speakers from what everyone tells me.

I like Oliver am looking at upgrading out of the Energy tho. I believe that I will be buying Dynaudio Excite X16s and a X22, I will be pairing them with a Marantz receiver and will add a Naim 5i Integrated Amp sometime down the road for 2-channel music. To which I want to add a Rega or Pro-ject TT and an NAD CD player. I think the CD player will happen first, and then the TT and IA later.

I do have to say that looking at the Veritas line makes me really want to hear them, just in case they sound better then the Dyns..... but I think that would be very hard.

Rainmaker outperforms that X16 hands down son.

By Rhett's recomendation I will compare the Arcam A28 and the Naim 5i on my Rainmaker I will try the 5i next weekend if I can I have a dealer 8 miles from me and guess what they carry Totems.

I a Steve is the way to go and I guess down the roand you will upgrade the surronds for X12?

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Rainmaker outperforms that X16 hands down son.

By Rhett's recomendation I will compare the Arcam A28 and the Naim 5i on my Rainmaker I will try the 5i next weekend if I can I have a dealer 8 miles from me and guess what they carry Totems.

I a Steve is the way to go and I guess down the roand you will upgrade the surronds for X12?

well.... I don't know if the Rainmakers would out perform the X16s or not.... but the X16s where right there with the Sttafs, so if the Rainmakers are better then the Sttafs.... I guess perhaps they would outperform the X16s, but something tells me that the Dyns may very well be on par with the Rainmakers, or BETTER

Actually Rhetts dealer told me the X32s and X16s are pretty similar, but the 32s have a little more slam in the low end. Mid-range and Highs are IDENTICAL.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

well.... I don't know if the Rainmakers would out perform the X16s or not.... but the X16s where right there with the Sttafs, so if the Rainmakers are better then the Sttafs.... I guess perhaps they would outperform the X16s, but something tells me that the Dyns may very well be on par with the Rainmakers, or BETTER

Actually Rhetts dealer told me the X32s and X16s are pretty similar, but the 32s have a little more slam in the low end. Mid-range and Highs are IDENTICAL.

So I know excatly what the X16 sounds like and I can say that the Rainmaker moreless sound equally as good and as detailed as the Sttaf but slightly brighter but perfoms just as good in the whole range of frequency as the Staff does so we can say that they are almost equal speakers per say I mean I know I'd be extremely pleased either way. You probably get a bit more low end but details and musicality are really close and with our IA I think we'll both be in for a good treat.

[K-Fed2]

Originally Posted by callas01

welcome to the site.

I really enjoy my Energys, They have served me great for the past 3 yrs. Glad you are happy with them. The RCs are nice speakers from what everyone tells me.

I like Oliver am looking at upgrading out of the Energy tho. I believe that I will be buying Dynaudio Excite X16s and a X22, I will be pairing them with a Marantz receiver and will add a Naim 5i Integrated Amp sometime down the road for 2-channel music. To which I want to add a Rega or Pro-ject TT and an NAD CD player. I think the CD player will happen first, and then the TT and IA later.

I do have to say that looking at the Veritas line makes me really want to hear them, just in case they sound better then the Dyns..... but I think that would be very hard.

The Veritas line was never carried at fs before to my knowledge so i cant wait to here them. As for the dyns, I dont know of anyone in my area that carries them. I would love to hear them against the veritas when they come out.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by K-Fed2

The Veritas line was never carried at fs before to my knowledge so i cant wait to here them. As for the dyns, I dont know of anyone in my area that carries them. I would love to hear them against the veritas when they come out.

Be Aware I don't think from what FS carries as Amps or receivers will have a hard time to give great justice to the Veritas, I mean it will sound amazing but sometimes sound can be beyond Belief, when you think you heard the best, there is always something better out there.

I would love to hear the Veritas on an Naim amp that would be pleasent to the ear, I think. :d

[K-Fed2]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

First of Congratulations for your first post here and welcome in the community

Have you Heard Totem and Dynaudio Speakers? I not saying you would change your mind about Energy cause their RC line is awesome and I own a Conoisseur setup myself I am steping it notch and I have ordered just recently a pair of Totem Rainmaker, I have been talking about that for quite a while now and Totem is made in Canada.

You will realise that Callas and I have the same taste and we love just about the same speaker and I don't think it's a coincidence.

I had never even heard of totems till i read this thread. Very interested to hear your thoughts on their sq compared to what you have now. Where did you find them? mom and pop shop or a big box chain? I would like to check them out as well. Also, I have heard of dyns but never actually heard them. Not a whole lot of variety of stores in my area to check out other brands. I would have to drive to Vancouver to check out specialty shops but I hate driving there.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by K-Fed2

I had never even heard of totems till i read this thread. Very interested to hear your thoughts on their sq compared to what you have now. Where did you find them? mom and pop shop or a big box chain? I would like to check them out as well. Also, I have heard of dyns but never actually heard them. Not a whole lot of variety of stores in my area to check out other brands. I would have to drive to Vancouver to check out specialty shops but I hate driving there.

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