Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It allows our comments to reach a wider audience.

LOL - I wonder how many people saw a GIF I thought I had posted in the General Chat: GIF thread - it wound up in the Movies: Cry Macho thread.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by wendell r. Breland

one of my few a/v regrets, i deleted post that i archived from bbs's and compuserve that were made in the 80's and 90's. Laserdisc users had to put up with a constant barrage of: Disc are too expensive ● can not record to disc ● very few places rent disc ● quality is very little better than video cassette ● no need to buy, title will be on hbo or showtime soon ● dolby digital and/or dts audio will soon come to hbo, showtime and video cassette (that one made me ).

:d

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Netflix will report a profit first quarter next year. They will also be debt free by the end of this year.

Disney says 2024 but it could happen in 2023. Not bad for a world wide service that is less than 2 years old.

And like all you care about is weekly disc releases, all I care about is new content every month.

HBO Max will add 204 new titles in October.

Yeah, but you don’t OWN it. It just tv.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yeah, but you don’t OWN it. It just tv.

Correct. I don't want to own it. I just want to view it. My desire is to watch new to me content and pay a pittance for that pleasure.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Correct. I don't want to own it. I just want to view it. My desire is to watch new to me content and pay a pittance for that pleasure.

In that case, it baffles me why you even frequent a HT/Blu-ray forum.

[Vilya]

[Show spoiler]Remember if you don't truly own it, you don't really love it.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

In that case, it baffles me why you even frequent a HT/Blu-ray forum.

It isn't really all that baffling considering that this website has a substantial digital forum. Also, people can be very into home theaters without necessarily caring about buying discs or even EST.

Not everyone wants to purchase content; they are happy just to rent it in one form or another. Renting does not automatically mean that they only stream, either. There remain plenty of ways to rent discs.

In short, not everyone fits in your box.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It isn't really all that baffling considering that this website has a substantial digital forum section. Also, people can be very into home theaters without necessarily caring about buying discs or even EST.

Not everyone wants to purchase content; they are happy just to rent it in one form or another. Renting does not automatically mean they only stream, either. There remain plenty of ways to rent discs.

In short, not everyone fits in your box.

Didn’t mean to upset your buddy.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Didn’t mean to upset your buddy.

I like many people here and it is not required that they agree with me. Almost everyone is welcome under my Big Top.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I like many people here and it is not required that they agree with me. Almost everyone is welcome under my Big Top.

Unlike you, I can see what he is.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Unlike you, I can see what he is.

Actually, you just think that you can.

There is a lot more to each of us, good and bad, than has been revealed by our forum posts.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

In that case, it baffles me why you even frequent a HT/Blu-ray forum.

Have always believed many posters did it for goading, jealousy or envy. As noted earlier, been going on a long time. During that LD time period we had HBO and Showtime and Starz via cable (later DirecTV and Dish) and 4 broadcasters. Also owned a Beta Hi-Fi and a VHS Hi-Fi. I wanted access to as much content as was feasible.

Not much has changed, do have more disc players, 1 auto BD, 3 BD, 3 UHD BD, 4 UHD streamer boxes, 5 DVB-S2 satellite receivers and 1 D-VHS D-Theater player. We like having a good variety!!!

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Unlike you, I can see what he is.

People who live in glass houses should never throw stones.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Have always believed many posters did it for goading, jealousy or envy. As noted earlier, been going on a long time. During that LD time period we had HBO and Showtime and Starz via cable (later DirecTV and Dish) and 4 broadcasters. Also owned a Beta Hi-Fi and a VHS Hi-Fi. I wanted access to as much content as was feasible.

Not much has changed, do have more disc players, 1 auto BD, 3 BD, 3 UHD BD, 4 UHD streamer boxes, 5 DVB-S2 satellite receivers and 1 D-VHS D-Theater player. We like having a good verity!!!

I don't know that anyone is jealous of those that buy discs; that's not exactly hard to do or so expensive as to be economically exclusive. I can see where someone might be envious of someone else's home theater; some of our forum members have astounding set-ups that can make a person reflexively

The best selection will always be available to those that are open to enjoying both digital distribution and physical media. No matter how large my disc library becomes it will never contain many of the titles that can only be found in the digital realm. I use both as I wish to see all that I want, but I do not want to own all that I see.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Have always believed many posters did it for goading, jealousy or envy. As noted earlier, been going on a long time. During that LD time period we had HBO and Showtime and Starz via cable (later DirecTV and Dish) and 4 broadcasters. Also owned a Beta Hi-Fi and a VHS Hi-Fi. I wanted access to as much content as was feasible.

Not much has changed, do have more disc players, 1 auto BD, 3 BD, 3 UHD BD, 4 UHD streamer boxes, 5 DVB-S2 satellite receivers and 1 D-VHS D-Theater player. We like having a good variety!!!

I just think it’s telling that Lee joined and then instantly took it upon himself to keep track of the home media sales thread despite not giving a chuff what happens to disc. I’m just used to previous co tributes caring deeply about the format. I just have suspicions of his motives for doing such a thing.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I just think it’s telling that Lee joined and then instantly took it upon himself to keep track of the home media sales thread despite not giving a chuff what happens to disc. I’m just used to previous co tributes caring deeply about the format. I just have suspicions of his motives for doing such a thing.

My "motive" was very simple. I was the one who kept track of the media sales thread at the now defunk High Def Forum for 10 years. Went it went belly up, I joined here. I saw the updates were not being done on a timely basis so I started posting them. No one complained about it.

And the last time you whined and cried about it, Bruce told you he didn't have the time or the notion to keep up with it and was fine and glad that I was doing it.

Am I doing it wrong?

Or are you just being an elitist zealot?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

My "motive" was very simple. I was the one who kept track of the media sales thread at the now defunk High Def Forum for 10 years. Went it went belly up, I joined here. I saw the updates were not being done on a timely basis so I started posting them. No one complained about it.

And the last time you whined and cried about it, Bruce told you he didn't have the time or the notion to keep up with it and was fine and glad that I was doing it.

Am I doing it wrong?

Or are you just being an elitist zealot?

For what purpose? Are you that desperate to get likes/thanks? I would not be wasting time keeping tabs on pop music sales for example, when I only listen to classical. (I don’t, it’s just an example)

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I don't know that anyone is jealous of those that buy discs; that's not exactly hard to do or so expensive as to be economically exclusive.

Only took one course in psychology and it would appear most “normal” people have a motive for most everything they do. Why else did posters say, “my VHS looks almost as good as your LD.” A very few would actually admit: I really can not see or hear the difference ● It cost more than I can afford. Fewer less admitted they were envious.

The post that I really wish I had archived was on eTown during the DIVX DVD vs DVD days. Lots of foul language and name calling there. True colors showing through?

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

For what purpose? Are you that desperate to get likes/thanks? I would not be wasting time keeping tabs on pop music sales for example, when I only listen to classical. (I don’t, it’s just an example)

Likes and thanks? LMFAO!

I've been doing it for 12+ years. It's what I do.

Steedeel, I am going to say this as nicely as I possibly can . . . you and I are two different people with different motiviations for what we do here at BD.com. Maybe some day you will not only realize this but also accept it.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Only took one course in psychology and it would appear most “normal” people have a motive for most everything they do. Why else did posters say, “my VHS looks almost as good as your LD.” A very few would actually admit: I really can not see or hear the difference ● It cost more than I can afford. Fewer less admitted they were envious.

The post that I really wish I had archived was on eTown during the DIVX DVD vs DVD days. Lots of foul language and name calling there. True colors showing through?

Some of that grumbling might just be upgrade fatigue. We hear it with each new format when people do not want to buy their movies again, compounded by the necessity of having to buy new hardware, to gain the benefits of the new format.

As a result they may undermine those benefits to justify not re-buying their collections and to avoid buying new devices. Eventually, most seem to accept the new kid on the block and before you know it the detractors become adopters.