Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread - Page 169 - Blu-ray Forum

Steedeel · 04-15-2017, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alchav21

Studios are not the Bad Guys, all they want is for people to enjoy and buy their Movies. VHS started the whole Collecting cycle, and DVD and Blu-ray made it better. Now we have moved on to Digital HD, but people still want to hold on to their Discs because of some form of Ownership. Believe me the Studios are working on some form of Digital Ownership. That's why I keep going back to Secure Media Servers, where you can store your Collection just like your Discs. With Full Rights, and they won't be taken away.

Only in your mind have we moved on to Digital HD. The numbers don't suggest we have moved on at all. It's a split between disc, subscription and Digital HD.

Steedeel · 04-15-2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Canada

I will buy physical media as long as it is around, I see digital media as a plus only.

Digital is for people who have dropped their standards.

huskerbear · 04-15-2017, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Digital is for people who have dropped their standards.

Digital is for people that enjoy the convenience, and perks that it offers. Blu-ray is slowly becoming for disc collectors unwilling to grasp the change that's happening right in front of them, but to each there own...

Cranston37 · 04-15-2017, 02:28 PM

I'm just gonna leave this right here (numbers in billions)

Year DVD YoY decline
2006 13.89
2007 13.38 -3.7%
2008 12.48 -6.7%
2009 10.55 -15.5%
2010 8.50 -19.4%
2011 6.81 -20.0%
2012 6.00 -11.8%
2013 5.33 -11.2%
2014 4.66 -12.6%
2015 3.96 -15.0%
2016 3.43 -13.4%

On pace for this year...
2017 2.83 -17.4%

Britbuffguy · 04-15-2017, 02:36 PM

Not a fan of Digital. I either give the codes away or just throw them away in no takers.

jcflman · 04-15-2017, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Britbuffguy

Not a fan of Digital. I either give the codes away or just throw them away in no takers.

For the codes you don't give away you could try selling them in the digital copy sale thread.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=220953

New releases sell for around $4--$7 and catalog titles will get you $2--$4 unless it's an extremely common movie like the Dark Knight Rises.

alchav21 · 04-15-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Digital is for people who have dropped their standards.

Here we go again, putting down Digital when it's now on par with Disc. I have my 65" UHD Sony now, and Hard Wired straight to my Fiber feed Switch. My HDX Streaming Movies are Fantastic!

zarquon · 04-15-2017, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alchav21

Here we go again, putting down Digital when it's now on par with Disc. I have my 65" UHD Sony now, and Hard Wired straight to my Fiber feed Switch. My HDX Streaming Movies are Fantastic!

PQ might be close (though not everyone has the bandwidth you're getting with fiber), but you're stuck at DD 5.1 audio. No Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, or any other lossless codec.

PenguinMaster · 04-15-2017, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by huskerbear

Digital is for people that enjoy the convenience, and perks that it offers.

Digital has other perks besides convenience?

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Originally Posted by Cranston37

I'm just gonna leave this right here (numbers in billions)

Year DVD YoY decline
2006 13.89
2007 13.38 -3.7%
2008 12.48 -6.7%
2009 10.55 -15.5%
2010 8.50 -19.4%
2011 6.81 -20.0%
2012 6.00 -11.8%
2013 5.33 -11.2%
2014 4.66 -12.6%
2015 3.96 -15.0%
2016 3.43 -13.4%

On pace for this year...
2017 2.83 -17.4%

Your proof that Blu-ray is failing is DVD's decline?

zorbonaut · 04-15-2017, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Digital is for people who have dropped their standards.

False.

It doesn't have to be either or....

I love having a digital collection and streaming digital along with my hard copy Blu-Ray collection. I haven't dropped my standard one bit. I'm a fan of cinema not format.

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Originally Posted by alchav21

Here we go again, putting down Digital when it's now on par with Disc. I have my 65" UHD Sony now, and Hard Wired straight to my Fiber feed Switch. My HDX Streaming Movies are Fantastic!

Very true! I have a 60 inch 4k tv and notice very little difference when streaming HDX or iTunes HD from my Blu-Ray copy. In addition with digital I have the flexibility to take my collection with me as I have 3 trips planned starting in May.

Cranston37 · 04-15-2017, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

Your proof that Blu-ray is failing is DVD's decline?

When did I say anything about blu-ray?

PenguinMaster · 04-15-2017, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranston37

When did I say anything about blu-ray?

So what was the point of showing DVD's decline?

Steedeel · 04-15-2017, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by huskerbear

Digital is for people that enjoy the convenience, and perks that it offers. Blu-ray is slowly becoming for disc collectors unwilling to grasp the change that's happening right in front of them, but to each there own...

Well, Netflix and Amazon you mean? Agreed. Digital HD, not a chance. By the way, the change you mention is only happening in your country. Pretty much everywhere else, UV and Digital HD, IMO, is a massive fail.

Steedeel · 04-15-2017, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zorbonaut

False.

It doesn't have to be either or....

I love having a digital collection and streaming digital along with my hard copy Blu-Ray collection. I haven't dropped my standard one bit. I'm a fan of cinema not format.

Very true! I have a 60 inch 4k tv and notice very little difference when streaming HDX or iTunes HD from my Blu-Ray copy. In addition with digital I have the flexibility to take my collection with me as I have 3 trips planned starting in May.

If you don't notice a difference between ITunes and Bluray that says more about your eyesight than anything else.

Steedeel · 04-15-2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alchav21

Here we go again, putting down Digital when it's now on par with Disc. I have my 65" UHD Sony now, and Hard Wired straight to my Fiber feed Switch. My HDX Streaming Movies are Fantastic!

On par my arse.

Steedeel · 04-15-2017, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alchav21

Here we go again, putting down Digital when it's now on par with Disc. I have my 65" UHD Sony now, and Hard Wired straight to my Fiber feed Switch. My HDX Streaming Movies are Fantastic!

How is the sound?

Cranston37 · 04-15-2017, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

So what was the point of showing DVD's decline?

Isn't this thread meant to discuss Physical vs. Digital, not Blu-ray vs. Digital? And isn't DVD about 2/3 of the physical market? Showing how far 2/3 of the market has fallen in 10 years is hardly pointless...

PenguinMaster · 04-15-2017, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranston37

Isn't this thread meant to discuss Physical vs. Digital, not Blu-ray vs. Digital? And isn't DVD about 2/3 of the physical market? Showing how far 2/3 of the market has fallen in 10 years is hardly pointless...

But you're specifically pointing out the part that's falling faster to make it look worse than it is.

Steedeel · 04-15-2017, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

So what was the point of showing DVD's decline?

Exactly. DVD has been around for decades lol. It's normal for it to be tailing off at this stage in its life.

Notice the sheer lack of Digital HD updates. Or the fact any positive news is fabricated by throwing in Netflix and Amazon subs as well!

Believe me, they ain't shouting from the rooftops. There is a bloody good reason for that.

Steedeel · 04-15-2017, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Britbuffguy

Not a fan of Digital. I either give the codes away or just throw them away in no takers.

My codes go in the trash where they belong.

04-15-2017, 02:28 PM	#3364
Cranston37 Senior Member Member since:Jul 2014 Trading Score:9	I'm just gonna leave this right here (numbers in billions) Year DVD YoY decline 2006 13.89 2007 13.38 -3.7% 2008 12.48 -6.7% 2009 10.55 -15.5% 2010 8.50 -19.4% 2011 6.81 -20.0% 2012 6.00 -11.8% 2013 5.33 -11.2% 2014 4.66 -12.6% 2015 3.96 -15.0% 2016 3.43 -13.4% On pace for this year... 2017 2.83 -17.4% Last edited by Cranston37; 04-15-2017 at 05:02 PM.

04-15-2017, 02:36 PM	#3365
Britbuffguy Blu-ray Champion Member since:Feb 2013 Location:Madison, WI 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:323 DVD collection:23 Trading Score:62	Not a fan of Digital. I either give the codes away or just throw them away in no takers.

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