Optimizing 3D's potential using Darbee Video Processors

[Impossible]

I just set mine as high as it'll go before there are distortions in the image.

I only use it with my projector not my tv, so once it starts to look unnatural or I get halos around edges I turn it down so they are no longer visible.

Animated films seem to be able to take it the best at its highest, sometimes up to 100 without any distortion.

For the most part though I use 60 for 2D content and up to 80 for 3D.

[RockyIII]

Can I connect darbee when the player is 4K but the projector is HD?

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[Joe D.]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I will follow those same general guidelines and see how it does on my new projector.
I am also getting a cheap 4K player so that I can take full advantage of the higher disc bitrate and Dolby Atmos track which most standard blurays lack. So between the 4K downsampling and Darbee, the overall picture should definetely look better than if just using the bare projector

Hi Rock,

Good luck. Hope my suggestions help. Please let us all know how you like it.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Can I connect darbee when the player is 4K but the projector is HD?

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Anyone?

[schiltzamania]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Anyone?

Yes. It worked fine with the udp 203 anyways as I'm strictly downsampling to 1080p.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by schiltzamania

Yes. It worked fine with the udp 203 anyways as I'm strictly downsampling to 1080p.

So the hdmi chain won't be interrupted by the fact that you are playing a 4K disc on a 1080p tv or projector? Good news then!

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[gaucho]

Earlier I reported an issue using my new Darbee processor. That issue has now been resolved, and I thought I'd share the resolution with anyone that's interested (or not!)

The issue: Darbee was passing along the 3D signal, but not 2D.

My Sony BR player is a 4K upscaling model. When I originally set up the player, I enabled that feature, so all my 2D discs were output as 4K. The Darbee is not 4K compatible. While I realized that prior to purchase, my interpretation of that caveat was that a signal would still pass through, just not at 4K...WRONG!

The 3D signal always came through fine since that's at 1080P. Once I disabled the 4K output feature on the Sony, the problem was solved. I've seen comments saying LG OLED's are about as good as it gets for PQ. Well, I love my LG...I just love it a little bit more with my Darbee! Subjectively speaking (of course!)

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by gaucho

Earlier I reported an issue using my new Darbee processor. That issue has now been resolved, and I thought I'd share the resolution with anyone that's interested (or not!)

The issue: Darbee was passing along the 3D signal, but not 2D.

My Sony BR player is a 4K upscaling model. When I originally set up the player, I enabled that feature, so all my 2D discs were output as 4K. The Darbee is not 4K compatible. While I realized that prior to purchase, my interpretation of that caveat was that a signal would still pass through, just not at 4K...WRONG!

The 3D signal always came through fine since that's at 1080P. Once I disabled the 4K output feature on the Sony, the problem was solved. I've seen comments saying LG OLED's are about as good as it gets for PQ. Well, I love my LG...I just love it a little bit more with my Darbee! Subjectively speaking (of course!)

Any difference with 4K output enabled/disabled, regardless of Darbee?

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[gaucho]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Any difference with 4K output enabled/disabled, regardless of Darbee?

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While I don't have the luxury of side-by-side comparisons, I would say the benefits of the Darbee enhancements noticeably improve upon 4K upscaling.

I never compared 4K disabled/enabled w/o Darbee. Always had it on, since I figured it wouldn't hurt PQ.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by gaucho

While I don't have the luxury of side-by-side comparisons, I would say the benefits of the Darbee enhancements noticeably improve upon 4K upscaling.

I never compared 4K disabled/enabled w/o Darbee. Always had it on, since I figured it wouldn't hurt PQ.

I too have a Sony 4K upscaling player but I always kept 4K upscaler disabled. I figure you want the purest, most pristine signal to hit your TV. I do the same with my Denon receiver and always turn off all upscalers or other gimmicks. 1080p is 1080p anyway, and a player won't magically turn it into 4K.

[Joe D.]

Originally Posted by gaucho

Earlier I reported an issue using my new Darbee processor. That issue has now been resolved, and I thought I'd share the resolution with anyone that's interested (or not!)

The issue: Darbee was passing along the 3D signal, but not 2D.

My Sony BR player is a 4K upscaling model. When I originally set up the player, I enabled that feature, so all my 2D discs were output as 4K. The Darbee is not 4K compatible. While I realized that prior to purchase, my interpretation of that caveat was that a signal would still pass through, just not at 4K...WRONG!

The 3D signal always came through fine since that's at 1080P. Once I disabled the 4K output feature on the Sony, the problem was solved. I've seen comments saying LG OLED's are about as good as it gets for PQ. Well, I love my LG...I just love it a little bit more with my Darbee! Subjectively speaking (of course!)

Hi Gaucho

That's great news indeed! Explains a problem that had us all perplexed.

So glad you can now relax and enjoy the darbee. Know what you mean. Even though not an LG owner, was very happy with what I had and the darbee made me a lot more happier.

You'll have fun using the demo mode seeing the differences!

So happy it was resolved.

[gaucho]

Originally Posted by Joe D.

Hi Gaucho

That's great news indeed! Explains a problem that had us all perplexed.

So glad you can now relax and enjoy the darbee. Know what you mean. Even though not an LG owner, was very happy with what I had and the darbee made me a lot more happier.

You'll have fun using the demo mode seeing the differences!

So happy it was resolved.

Thanks for the moral support Joe! I can now look forward to much tweaking, and fiddling in the pursuit of the "Holy Grail" of awesome PQ...subjectively speaking.

Steve

[RockyIII]

Ok here is what I don't get:
How can darbee have issues when connected to a 4K upscaling BD player but work fine with a 100% 4K player like Oppo 203?

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[Impossible]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Ok here is what I don't get:
How can darbee have issues when connected to a 4K upscaling BD player but work fine with a 100% 4K player like Oppo 203?

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They only display 1080p, there is no update for 4k resolution, so I doubt 4k will be enhanced in any way.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Impossible

They only display 1080p, there is no update for 4k resolution, so I doubt 4k will be enhanced in any way.

Just pointing out how Gaucho was having connection issues simply by having 4K upscaling enabled in his player

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[schiltzamania]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Just pointing out how Gaucho was having connection issues simply by having 4K upscaling enabled in his player

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He was upscaling in 4K to a 4K device. Not downsampling to 1080p across the board

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[Joe D.]

Originally Posted by gaucho

Thanks for the moral support Joe! I can now look forward to much tweaking, and fiddling in the pursuit of the "Holy Grail" of awesome PQ...subjectively speaking.

Steve

H Steve,

It was my pleasure. Use that demo mode, its going to amaze you!

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by schiltzamania

He was upscaling in 4K to a 4K device. Not downsampling to 1080p across the board

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So if you have, say, Oppo 203 + 4K LG Oled tv and you want to hook up a darbee for 1080p blurays will it work? signal pass-through won't be an issue?

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

So if you have, say, Oppo 203 + 4K LG Oled tv and you want to hook up a darbee for 1080p blurays will it work? signal pass-through won't be an issue?

As long as the 203 is sending out a native 1080P signal.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Paul H

As long as the 203 is sending out a native 1080P signal.

But what if the oppo is playing a 4K disc while being connected to a 1080p tv?

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