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Old 07-04-2017, 09:20 AM   #34181
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Chipping away at the backlog, I watched Rollerball today. What an odd piece of work.

It definitely feels like an 80 minute dumb action idea that somehow got turned a two hour drama that takes itself completely seriously even though it's an inherently silly premise.

I really enjoyed it even though it wasn't what I expected it to be. If this movie was about an actual sport and set in the 70's I'm sure it would have won awards. The fact that they play it completely straight probably hurt the movie more than it helped. But I still think it kind of works. I hope Arrow gets more stuff with James Caan as the lead. He's great.

Also, I love the rollerball t-shirts the fans in the movie wear! Anybody know where I can get one? I'm sure someone must have made them available for fans nowadays.
I love Rollerball.

It's the only 'sports' film I know that looks like they're actually playing the sport they're supposed be playing.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:23 AM   #34182
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My copy of this just arrived:



And it came with a booklet. That's easily the best Arrow bargain ever.
Mine just arrived as well.

No booklet, but I don't care about booklets. Great bargain! Thanks to the OP who posted it.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:46 AM   #34183
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My copy of this just arrived:



And it came with a booklet.
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No booklet
And so the anticipation begins. Will I receive a booklet? Who knows! Find out next time on 'What did the postman bring today!'
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:04 PM   #34184
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This is a pic Arrow put out of the release when they received stock of the original version in 2014.

Thanks but after posting this up and trying to tug the label off the back which was not coming off unless i ripped the seal or left most of it still on and still not see what was under it i looked futher up the back and there it was said 1000.
I could have sworn i had seen a video or pic in past of where it was where label got stuck too. But it also said futher up the sleeve lol.
I was sure it was as the only two versions was a single disc non limited and 2 disc limited.
But at the time needed to be sure.
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:09 PM   #34185
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Thanks but after posting this up and trying to tug the label off the back which was not coming off unless i ripped the seal or left most of it still on and still not see what was under it i looked futher up the back and there it was said 1000.
I could have sworn i had seen a video or pic in past of where it was where label got stuck too. But it also said futher up the sleeve lol.
I was sure it was as the only two versions was a single disc non limited and 2 disc limited.
But at the time needed to be sure.
Why don't you unseal them? Do you watch them?
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:27 PM   #34186
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Why don't you unseal them? Do you watch them?
I dont get much time to watch them and by time i do it can be watched elsewhere,im a bit of a collector so im probably thinking keeping stuff sealed is worth more if i had to sell them.
But i suppose it depends what it is,some people buy two copies of things one to keep sealed and another to use but that's a bit too expensive for me. There maybe a time when i crack them open but for now they are sealed.
I have got tons i not see yet.
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:30 PM   #34187
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Like i said before; Arrow should make it very clear how many copies have a booklet. For example; On the back of the release limited to 3.000 (so all 3.000 will have a booklet) Indicator does it that way. To me it feels a bit scammy to order for example an Arrow title for the top price but without the booklet. Just make it clear for everybody.

I understand why they dont do it tho, because they know that people will not order when it is pretty clear it comes without a booklet. I think that is the only reason or else they would already change it i guess.
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:32 PM   #34188
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I always unseal stuff, at least to check the disc is there and the right one and not scratched etc etc.
And I try to ALWAYS read the booklets.

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I understand why they dont do it tho, because they know that people will not order when it is pretty clear it comes without a booklet. I think that is the only reason or else they would already change it i guess.
I think the reason has more to do with rationalizing the logistics and the references. This started notably by not writing anymore the inclusion of the booklet on the backcover, so when it's not included anymore, they don't have to re-design the blurb.
Stuff like this.
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:36 PM   #34189
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I always unseal stuff, at least to check the disc is there and the right one and not scratched etc etc.
And I try to ALWAYS read the booklets.



I think the reason has more to do with rationalizing the logistics and the references. This started notably by not writing anymore the inclusion of the booklet on the backcover, so when it's not included anymore, they don't have to re-design the blurb.
Stuff like this.
Dont think so. Indicator writes on the back of their releases; Limited to 3.000 copies so all the 3.000 copies will have everything. Why do i have to pay for example 20 pounds without a booklet? So i pay the same price but my copy is not complete. That feels scammy if you feel me on that.

It is not that hard to put that on the back. I mean other companies do it as well. IF it is a re-release then dont write it on the back, then it is clear that it will not have a booklet etc.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:20 PM   #34190
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Dont think so. Indicator writes on the back of their releases; Limited to 3.000 copies so all the 3.000 copies will have everything. Why do i have to pay for example 20 pounds without a booklet? So i pay the same price but my copy is not complete. That feels scammy if you feel me on that.

It is not that hard to put that on the back. I mean other companies do it as well. IF it is a re-release then dont write it on the back, then it is clear that it will not have a booklet etc.
They used to put it on the back but then started removing booklets from some print-runs and got complaints when people found their copy empty. There are still some of these out there - I saw copies of Time Bandits in Sainsbury's the other day which mentioned a booklet on the back but clearly didn't have them inside (too light).

I think the idea now is leaving it ambiguous means people are more likely to buy titles they want the booklets for earlier, maybe even pre-ordering more titles than they did before. I agree that it's not ideal, and they should at least mention the print-run of booklets for each title, or print a certain amount of copies with mention of the booklet on the reverse.

I assume it's actually a logistic decision from the manufacturing process, so they don't have to formally reissue titles once the bookleted copies sell out, and adjust the artwork accordingly. It's very frustrating having to hunt down booklets for some titles - I've had to do it a couple of times now, and I completely gambled on my recent HMV offer (luckily all came with booklets, but I already assumed some of them would since they were released before they decided to cut booklets).

If it makes things easier, it looks like they're reissuing a lot of titles as 1-disc Blu-ray editions, presumably as the previous print-runs go OOP. These will no doubt have be booklet-less, but if you happen to get a booklet copy by accident that's obviously a bonus (e.g. some of the more recent titles).

PS: you shouldn't have to pay £20 for a release. I wouldn't anyway, in fact most I wouldn't buy for sub-£10, unless it's brand new. I generally pre-order titles I really want, pick up a few more soon after release, and then grab a handful I was less interested in during the sales provided they're cheap (£6-8).
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:21 PM   #34191
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I dont get much time to watch them and by time i do it can be watched elsewhere,im a bit of a collector so im probably thinking keeping stuff sealed is worth more if i had to sell them.
But i suppose it depends what it is,some people buy two copies of things one to keep sealed and another to use but that's a bit too expensive for me. There maybe a time when i crack them open but for now they are sealed.
I have got tons i not see yet.
So how much did you pay for it then?
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:39 PM   #34192
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Why do i have to pay for example 20 pounds without a booklet?
The fact is : you actually shouldn't pay a price close to the original one.
By the time the concerned titles sell out their first printing, most of the time, they heavily dropped in price, which is why this kind of argument always felt thin to me.

Either you wait and pay a relatively lower price (like, say, £8.99) but might not have the booklet, or you don't wait, are sure to get a booklet but will pay more (£12.99 or £14.99). It's only up to you to value accordingly the booklet as a separate extra (is it worth the extra £4 or £6 ?).

But Arrow's model regarding this is clearly different than Indicator's one. Arrow's "regular" booklet are not regarded as a "limited" feature in the same way than Indicator does. Indicator first pressing should be seen as a LE, like LEs for The Bird with the Crystal Plumage or Donnie Darko.
This isn't the case for Arrow so the comparison isn't totally fair.



Don't get me wrong though, I too wish Arrow would be clearer about what is first pressing and what isn't, especially since many people order online and can't check physically the presence or the absence of a booklet.

But I don't think the reason you advance is the correct one, and I don't think your comparison is fair.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:50 PM   #34193
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If anyone's interested I'm selling all my Arrow blu rays including the Borowczyk Collection on Ebay.
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Old 07-04-2017, 05:02 PM   #34194
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If anyone's interested I'm selling all my Arrow blu rays including the Borowczyk Collection on Ebay.
£410 ...
And I thought the prices of marketplace sellers on amazon uk were high, but they're at least lower than that .
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Old 07-04-2017, 05:31 PM   #34195
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£410 ...
And I thought the prices of marketplace sellers on amazon uk were high, but they're at least lower than that .
Job lot. Just highlighted the fact it includes the Boro set.
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Old 07-04-2017, 05:38 PM   #34196
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If anyone's interested I'm selling all my Arrow blu rays including the Borowczyk Collection on Ebay.
If you're interested in splitting them up, I'd be interested in the Borowczyk set by itself.

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Old 07-04-2017, 06:13 PM   #34197
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Job lot. Just highlighted the fact it includes the Boro set.
Aha, missed that, sorry.
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New announcements must be this friday as its been 4 weeks..
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Old 07-04-2017, 07:17 PM   #34199
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Has anyone heard anything about the Vinyl for Pieces?
It seems to have been forgotten about.

*** Deluxe Vinyl Update ***


Thank you so much for your continued patience during the production of our first Arrow Records vinyl. We are very pleased to announce that we've received the Pieces vinyl at our office and distribution centre; shipping is commencing today and tomorrow.

We apologise for any inconvenience caused by these delays and we thank you for your custom and trust in us to deliver something of excellent quality. We're very happy with the finished product and hope you all will be too.
Happy listening,

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Old 07-04-2017, 07:50 PM   #34200
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Nice! The obi strip reminds me of Death Waltz LP's, which is clearly what they're going for with these. Wonder if they'll do any for a title I actually want though...The Thing already got a soundtrack upgrade from Waxwork recently, so I assume they won't be doing their own one of that (though it did sell out quite quickly so you never know).
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